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Offline Holly Goodhead

MADELEINE McCann's parents have been asked to reach a “friendly settlement” in their legal row over a book, it has been reported.

The European Court Of Human Rights is said to have urged Kate and Gerry McCann to come to an agreement due to a backlog of cases.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14472108/madeleine-mccann-parents-friendly-settlement/

« Last Edit: March 28, 2021, 05:50:49 PM by Admin »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUvVdTlA23w&list=RDYpkv0HeUvTc&index=2  @ 22nd Aug '21.

Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2021, 10:37:28 AM »
MADELEINE McCann's parents have been asked to reach a “friendly settlement” in their legal row over a book, it has been reported.

The European Court Of Human Rights is said to have urged Kate and Gerry McCann to come to an agreement due to a backlog of cases.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14472108/madeleine-mccann-parents-friendly-settlement/

What is this supposed to signify?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2021, 05:51:17 PM by Admin »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2021, 10:52:13 AM »
MADELEINE McCann's parents have been asked to reach a “friendly settlement” in their legal row over a book, it has been reported.

The European Court Of Human Rights is said to have urged Kate and Gerry McCann to come to an agreement due to a backlog of cases.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14472108/madeleine-mccann-parents-friendly-settlement/
I thought this was nothing to do with Amaral?
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ANGER MAKES US AWARE OF INJUSTICE
We often experience anger when we are denied rights or when faced with insults, disrespect, injustice, or exploitation. Anger serves as an internal guidance system that indicates something is not quite right, that someone has treated us unjustly or unfairly. Anger helps communicate to others: “You’d better treat me fairly; otherwise, you’ll pay a high cost.” On a global level, standing up for a lack of fairness can prevent people from taking advantage of others. This type of anger can bring about positive change in society and increase the social cost of misbehaving.
The value of anger https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/value-of-anger-16-reasons-its-good-to-get-angry-0313175

Offline jassi

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2021, 11:40:10 AM »
What is this supposed to signify?

Who knows?
The European Court Of Human Rights is said to have urged Kate and Gerry McCann to come to an agreement due to a backlog of cases.
Who by?

I suggest that the Sun are confused about the function of the ECHR .
Alternatively, they  could have been mis-directed by someone to conceal  rejection of the case by the ECHR.

« Last Edit: March 27, 2021, 11:48:04 AM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future


Offline jassi

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2021, 01:09:22 PM »
Who knows?
The European Court Of Human Rights is said to have urged Kate and Gerry McCann to come to an agreement due to a backlog of cases.
Who by?

I suggest that the Sun are confused about the function of the ECHR .
Alternatively, they  could have been mis-directed by someone to conceal  rejection of the case by the ECHR.

It's part of the process for the ECHR to suggest the parties reach a friendly settlement. It's not unusual in applications where well-established case law already exists. 

At the same time as a case is communicated to the respondent government, the European Court will write to the parties to inform them that the Court is at the parties’ disposal for the purpose of securing a friendly settlement and inviting proposals from either party (Rule 62¹§1 of the Rules of Court). The Court will usually set a time limit for any proposals.
https://www.echr.am/en/functions/representation/friendly-settlements.html#:~:text=It%20is%20an%20agreement%20between,an%20undertaking%20by%20the%20respondent
England - good effort

Offline jassi

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2021, 01:26:36 PM »
It's part of the process for the ECHR to suggest the parties reach a friendly settlement. It's not unusual in applications where well-established case law already exists. 

At the same time as a case is communicated to the respondent government, the European Court will write to the parties to inform them that the Court is at the parties’ disposal for the purpose of securing a friendly settlement and inviting proposals from either party (Rule 62¹§1 of the Rules of Court). The Court will usually set a time limit for any proposals.
https://www.echr.am/en/functions/representation/friendly-settlements.html#:~:text=It%20is%20an%20agreement%20between,an%20undertaking%20by%20the%20respondent

OK, thanks.
Presumably between McCann & Portugal, so still misleading reporting by the Sun.

And if it's normal procedure, why should 'friend of the family' be so surprised ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2021, 01:33:36 PM »
OK, thanks.
Presumably between McCann & Portugal, so still misleading reporting by the Sun.

And if it's normal procedure, why should 'friend of the family' be so surprised ?
Perhaps they're not as genned up on European Law as the experts on this forum?
ANGER MAKES US AWARE OF INJUSTICE
We often experience anger when we are denied rights or when faced with insults, disrespect, injustice, or exploitation. Anger serves as an internal guidance system that indicates something is not quite right, that someone has treated us unjustly or unfairly. Anger helps communicate to others: “You’d better treat me fairly; otherwise, you’ll pay a high cost.” On a global level, standing up for a lack of fairness can prevent people from taking advantage of others. This type of anger can bring about positive change in society and increase the social cost of misbehaving.
The value of anger https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/value-of-anger-16-reasons-its-good-to-get-angry-0313175

Offline barrier

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2021, 01:37:58 PM »

Perhaps they're not as genned up on European Law as the experts on this forum?

Davel?  He's the only one who seems to know anything about this.

When can we expect his pearls of wisdom then.

Offline G-Unit

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2021, 02:50:52 PM »
Perhaps they're not as genned up on European Law as the experts on this forum?

The Sun journalist or the 'friend'? Neither have any excuse for ignorance in my opinion.

I would expect the McCanns' lawyers to know that the ECHR were encouraging friendly settlements and to have informed them of it. A friend should have known, therefore, that the request was not 'extraordinary' at all.

The Sun journalists are clinging to the idea that Amaral will be paid £ 750,000 in compensation, although no evidence of that has ever been offered by them.
England - good effort

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2021, 03:03:13 PM »
The Sun journalist or the 'friend'? Neither have any excuse for ignorance in my opinion.

I would expect the McCanns' lawyers to know that the ECHR were encouraging friendly settlements and to have informed them of it. A friend should have known, therefore, that the request was not 'extraordinary' at all.

The Sun journalists are clinging to the idea that Amaral will be paid £ 750,000 in compensation, although no evidence of that has ever been offered by them.
So, can I ask - before today did you know all about these "friendly settlements"?
ANGER MAKES US AWARE OF INJUSTICE
We often experience anger when we are denied rights or when faced with insults, disrespect, injustice, or exploitation. Anger serves as an internal guidance system that indicates something is not quite right, that someone has treated us unjustly or unfairly. Anger helps communicate to others: “You’d better treat me fairly; otherwise, you’ll pay a high cost.” On a global level, standing up for a lack of fairness can prevent people from taking advantage of others. This type of anger can bring about positive change in society and increase the social cost of misbehaving.
The value of anger https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/value-of-anger-16-reasons-its-good-to-get-angry-0313175

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2021, 03:04:50 PM »
When can we expect his pearls of wisdom then.
Aww, you're missing him, I can tell.  He hasn't logged on since yesterday so you'll simply have to be patient.
ANGER MAKES US AWARE OF INJUSTICE
We often experience anger when we are denied rights or when faced with insults, disrespect, injustice, or exploitation. Anger serves as an internal guidance system that indicates something is not quite right, that someone has treated us unjustly or unfairly. Anger helps communicate to others: “You’d better treat me fairly; otherwise, you’ll pay a high cost.” On a global level, standing up for a lack of fairness can prevent people from taking advantage of others. This type of anger can bring about positive change in society and increase the social cost of misbehaving.
The value of anger https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/value-of-anger-16-reasons-its-good-to-get-angry-0313175

Offline barrier

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2021, 03:10:44 PM »
How come the sun know then.

There is a requirement of strict confidentiality in respect
of friendly-settlement negotiations under Rule 62 § 2, and any proposals or submissions in this regard

Offline barrier

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2021, 03:11:44 PM »
Aww, you're missing him, I can tell.  He hasn't logged on since yesterday so you'll simply have to be patient.

One thing you'll never be successful at.