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Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #165 on: March 31, 2021, 11:35:57 AM »
Saying no won't automatically lead to a decision being taken by the ECHR. Saying no to a reasonable offer could lead to their application being struck out and them getting nothing at all.

What is a Reasonable Offer?  And I don't mean Money.

Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #166 on: March 31, 2021, 11:37:26 AM »
I asked because you seem to be saying that an admission of liability will be required.

Of course it will.  What is the point otherwise?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #167 on: March 31, 2021, 11:38:41 AM »
What is a Reasonable Offer?  And I don't mean Money.
That could be an assurance that GA won't publish his books in the UK.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #168 on: March 31, 2021, 11:39:15 AM »
How would you describe a reasonable offer.
For four years sceptics have been saying they won't go too the ECHR.. their claim will be thrown out... Now its they have to accept a reasonable offer..

It's all a Get Out Of Jail Card.  It was The McCanns wot dunnit.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #169 on: March 31, 2021, 11:39:26 AM »
Portugal will want to save face and the McCanns want their fund to remain intact.  That's why I think the settlement details would have to be suppressed.

Portugal has no right to save face.. I think the McCanns want a public admission they have been wronged

Offline Mr Gray

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #170 on: March 31, 2021, 11:41:34 AM »
That could be an assurance that GA won't publish his books in the UK.

He can't anyway and they have no authority to do that

Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #171 on: March 31, 2021, 11:41:46 AM »
That could be an assurance that GA won't publish his books in the UK.

There was never any chance of that happening.  Amaral's Book is Libellous.

Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #172 on: March 31, 2021, 11:43:50 AM »

Wherein does the word "Urge" come into this?

Offline jassi

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #173 on: March 31, 2021, 11:44:20 AM »
Of course it will.  What is the point otherwise?

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Offline G-Unit

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #174 on: March 31, 2021, 12:20:57 PM »
How would you describe a reasonable offer.
For four years sceptics have been saying they won't go too the ECHR.. their claim will be thrown out... Now its they have to accept a reasonable offer..

It's been known for quite some time that an application had been submitted. What still isn't known is whether the application has been found to be admissible.

It's not 'sceptics' saying they have to accept a reasonable offer, it's the ECHR; 'reasonable' being defined by the ECHR.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #175 on: March 31, 2021, 12:24:43 PM »
How would you describe a reasonable offer.
For four years sceptics have been saying they won't go too the ECHR.. their claim will be thrown out... Now its they have to accept a reasonable offer..

I never said anything of the sort so really you should have used the word some in your claim.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #176 on: March 31, 2021, 12:25:32 PM »
What is a Reasonable Offer?  And I don't mean Money.

It's whatever the ECHR sees as reasonable, and the example I provided didn't include an admission of breaching human rights.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #177 on: March 31, 2021, 12:29:19 PM »
It's been known for quite some time that an application had been submitted. What still isn't known is whether the application has been found to be admissible.

It's not 'sceptics' saying they have to accept a reasonable offer, it's the ECHR; 'reasonable' being defined by the ECHR.

So we don't know what reasonable entails.. If someone has been wronged I don't see how an admission could be described as unreasonable. The application has progressed this far.. Portugal has been asked to make an offer to all extents and purposes I can't see how that would happen if the claim had no merit.

I'm fairly sure some applications don't even get this far

Offline Mr Gray

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #178 on: March 31, 2021, 12:31:46 PM »
It's whatever the ECHR sees as reasonable, and the example I provided didn't include an admission of breaching human rights.

In the case you quoted the claimant must have agreed to no admission of liability and happy to being compensated. We don't know what would have happened if they had objected

Offline Eleanor

Re: ECHR urge McCanns to reach friendly settlement with Gonçalo Amaral.
« Reply #179 on: March 31, 2021, 12:33:01 PM »
It's been known for quite some time that an application had been submitted. What still isn't known is whether the application has been found to be admissible.

It's not 'sceptics' saying they have to accept a reasonable offer, it's the ECHR; 'reasonable' being defined by the ECHR.

Where does The ECHR say that The McCanns have to accept a reasonable offer?  And how do The ECHR define Reasonable?