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Offline Eleanor

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #390 on: May 04, 2021, 12:58:10 PM »
But she's never paid a penny in taxes, instead she has cost the state millions.

Nope, I'm sorry, I think the amount spent on missing British citizens should depend on how much each particular citizen has paid in taxes.

How much are you entitled to?  I don't suppose we could have a look at your Tax Returns.  Probably not.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #391 on: May 04, 2021, 01:26:01 PM »
How much are you entitled to?  I don't suppose we could have a look at your Tax Returns.  Probably not.

Do you know what.

You've helped change my mind.

I actually do hope Maddie is found alive & well, with condition that she then be forced to reimburse every penny she has cost the state.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #392 on: May 04, 2021, 01:31:50 PM »
But she's never paid a penny in taxes, instead she has cost the state millions.

Nope, I'm sorry, I think the amount spent on missing British citizens should depend on how much each particular citizen has paid in taxes.
So the richer and older you are the better public services you are entitled to? Great idea!  Do you work for Boris? 
Mare's eat oat's and doe's eat oat's and little lamb's eat ivy.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #393 on: May 04, 2021, 01:43:27 PM »
Do you know what.

You've helped change my mind.

I actually do hope Maddie is found alive & well, with condition that she then be forced to reimburse every penny she has cost the state.

How do you propose to do that?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #394 on: May 04, 2021, 01:46:43 PM »
So the richer and older you are the better public services you are entitled to? Great idea!  Do you work for Boris?

Yes.

If someone like a retiree who had worked full time & paid tax all their life went missing, there should be a police response proportionate to the amount of tax paid.

But obviously, if a 3 month old went missing, little to no action at all should be taken.

It sounds cruel, but you have to be cruel to be kind & this proposed legislation will encourage people not to go missing.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #395 on: May 04, 2021, 02:08:04 PM »
Yes.

If someone like a retiree who had worked full time & paid tax all their life went missing, there should be a police response proportionate to the amount of tax paid.

But obviously, if a 3 month old went missing, little to no action at all should be taken.

It sounds cruel, but you have to be cruel to be kind & this proposed legislation will encourage people not to go missing.

Such a pity that an opportunity was lost.  But never say never I say.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #396 on: May 04, 2021, 02:31:40 PM »
Yes.

If someone like a retiree who had worked full time & paid tax all their life went missing, there should be a police response proportionate to the amount of tax paid.

But obviously, if a 3 month old went missing, little to no action at all should be taken.

It sounds cruel, but you have to be cruel to be kind & this proposed legislation will encourage people not to go missing.
It makes perfect sense.  Divert the majority of resources into looking for senile biddys that have escaped from the Old Folks home and let infanticide rip through the country unchecked.  Man you're a genius.
Mare's eat oat's and doe's eat oat's and little lamb's eat ivy.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #397 on: May 04, 2021, 02:34:00 PM »
Such a pity that an opportunity was lost.  But never say never I say.
I wonder if Spam's model is how the Portuguese do it?  Which is why they only spent one week looking for Madeleine.  Probably if she'd been a 90 year old Portuguese man they'd probably have searched every well in the Algarve for him by now.
Mare's eat oat's and doe's eat oat's and little lamb's eat ivy.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #398 on: May 04, 2021, 02:45:07 PM »
I wonder if Spam's model is how the Portuguese do it?  Which is why they only spent one week looking for Madeleine.  Probably if she'd been a 90 year old Portuguese man they'd probably have searched every well in the Algarve for him by now.

Come on, be fair.  They might have found Madeleine by accident.  Instead of which someone dug up Spammy.

Offline Brietta

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #399 on: May 19, 2021, 03:24:24 PM »

The Organization that Arranged for the Abduction May Have Been Captured
Translated from Google Translate

https://www.abc.com.py/nacionales/2021/05/18/paraguay-habria-colaborado-con-datos-para-el-esclarecimiento-del-caso-madeleine-mccann/

Paraguay provided data to clarify the Madeleine McCann case

Commissioner Nimio Cardozo, Chief of Anti-kidnapping of the Police, confirmed that Paraguay collaborated to collect data that is being used to clarify the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. In the country, important elements and big data were seized from an international paedophile network that would be behind the probable death of the girl who has been wanted since 2007.

This morning, new information related to the case of Madeleine McCann was released, indicating that the girl was murdered in Portugal, where her disappearance was recorded in 2007.

According to the publications, new evidence was collected that is related to the pedophile arrested in Germany and, according to what was indicated today by Commissioner Nimio Cardozo, the man would be linked to a network that is being investigated in Paraguay with the Irma project and the Hades operative.

The anti-kidnapping chief confirmed that yesterday he was talking with various authorities such as prosecutor Irma Llano "and there are elements and we believe that in one way or another" the Paraguayan security body was able to contribute to the clarification of Madeleine McCann's case.

He did not want to provide more information until his German peers authorize it, but he did confirm that with the Irma project, which is carried out in Paraguay to detect pedophiles, it was possible to capture relevant information for the network that would be behind the disappearance of the British girl.

He also stressed that they do not rule out that the data collected after the procedure by which a German citizen was arrested on April 12 in Concepción, Paraguay, could also have been related to this case.

“At the time we carried out the operation, we caught one of the largest administrators of pedophilia sites in the world in flagrante delicto, a person wanted by several countries in Europe and by the United States (...) Doing the forensic analysis of both computers ( from Paraguay and Germany) it was possible to identify more than 5,000 IPs that were connected by exchanging photos and videos of paedophilia. We do not rule out that within all the big data that could have been seized there has also been important information for this, ”he explained.

Read more: Alleged German paedophile operated from the bank of the Ypané, in Bethlehem

According to international publications , the German Police gathered new data pointing to Christian Brueckner , the German paedophile and serial rapist, as the main suspect in Madeleine's death.

According to preliminary data, Brueckner was part of the same international network as the other German citizen, Christian Manfred Kruse , who was arrested on the banks of the Ypané River, in Belén, Concepción.

When he was arrested, Kruse was surfing the deep web and spreading underage pornographic materials. From his power, two notebooks, external drives, a modem and cell phones, among others, were seized.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Carana

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #400 on: May 20, 2021, 11:23:59 AM »
For the moment, all I can work out is that several countries, including Paraguay, zoomed in to identify and arrest the ringleader of a child abuse website and that the IPs and images may or may not provide evidence that Brückner had been consulting or contributing to it. 

Whether there ends up being any connection to the Madeleine case or not, hats off to all those involved in what can only be harrowing work to try to bring some form of justice, hopefully, to all the victims and their loved ones, and prevent them from abusing more.

Offline jassi

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #401 on: May 20, 2021, 12:24:53 PM »
I suppose that people can be part of such a network without knowing the identity of others, such is the nature of their world.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for this season.

Offline Carana

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #402 on: May 20, 2021, 02:31:13 PM »
I suppose that people can be part of such a network without knowing the identity of others, such is the nature of their world.

Quite possibly, but if there's payment involved, there may be traces beyond IPs.

Offline Brietta

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #403 on: May 20, 2021, 03:01:55 PM »
Quite possibly, but if there's payment involved, there may be traces beyond IPs.

There is no doubt they can be traced.  It has been done but it must be one heck of a job doing so.  Finding the perpetrators is one part of it another is attempting to identify the abused children to help them.

I think striking at the perpetrators has been more successful than rescuing the children.

It is like a Hydra.  Cut off the head and more grow in its place.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline jassi

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #404 on: May 20, 2021, 03:06:11 PM »
Quite possibly, but if there's payment involved, there may be traces beyond IPs.

I wasn't suggesting that they couldn't be traced, just that individuals wouldn't necessarily know the identity of fellow members.
So for example, this Kruse person might not know Brueckner other than as an on-line user name
« Last Edit: May 20, 2021, 03:21:03 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for this season.