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Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2021, 05:08:51 PM »
I think it would have been very difficult initially for Jodi's family to to view the boy they knew she idolised and who allegedly felt the same about Jodi with suspicion.
They didn't know of the existence of another girl who considered herself to be his girlfriend and it possibly took a long time of reflecting on events for them to start thinking the unthinkable.


The jury weren’t told about the other Kim were they?

Sandra Lean and Mitchell’s omit this

Why?

Other than protecting her privacy - why has Sandra Lean or the Mitchell’s not referred to the other Kim and of her knowledge of Luke Mitchell’s parka?
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Offline Parky41

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2021, 03:43:05 PM »
I agree that, at first, Jodi's family bore no ill will towards Luke, and JuJ ,  even visited him  after the murder to see how he was.

Luke was with members of Jodi's family when her body was discovered.  He is said to have expressed no emotion. Don't you think the relatives would have found that very odd, if true, and , as a result, would not have felt sympathy for him?  On the contrary, IMO, they would have been very suspicious of him, but, at first, they were not.

Strange, don't you think?


I think, as I put in the post - this mention of shock and so forth that the police would have been picking up on. Not the individual of each other in the moment. That whilst none of us can put ourselves in any of those shoes - Of what a horrendous time this must have been - to be reporting a family member missing one moment - to be on a search barely 10mins and for Jodi to have been found dead. - One would imagine, nothing short of a sledgehammer moment? Those screams we hear off, of JaJ's heart sinking at something being found. Of hearing her grandmother screaming, of SK retching. - of very much being engulfed with shock, in this instant shock that they would not be giving much thought to anything - other than that of Jodi being found dead. And being asked by the police - what comes to mind is the screaming, the retching and so forth.  And let's be honest here? It is JaJ we hear of where LM is concerned. of her changing her mind - what did SK and AW say about LM? The mere fact that we hear nothing, tells us clearly, that nothing was said that could show LM to be upset.

The family very much caught up in Jodi's death. Completely understandable that LM would not be included in any mix, in respect of being responsible. Was anyone at this point? Were they simply first and foremost in shock. Trying to digest the fact that she had been murdered.  And equally understandable that once this initial, massive shock began to subside - once some clarity of thought crept in - that they then began to remember just how LM was on this path, after this discovery.  -Therefore, not really strange at all, is it? 

That once this shock was beginning to ease off, as those first couple of days went by. It is hard to decipher at which point clarity of thoughts began to sift through. - but it is not just these family members. It is the police, the emergency services whom attended. And it is very much everything from that moment. What the police and others saw that did not quite fit with this "everyone was in hysterics" Were these people still in hysterics? - The police asking for clarification as it was not tying with what they were witnessing? Was in those moments of being asked - that it began to dawn on them? When being asked exactly how the other was? We know LM had been sitting messaging away on his phone, calm and collective (paramedics). We know how he was whilst given his account and so forth - the point being made, that these small areas, which held no actual water are nothing in comparison to the evidence, to show the complete opposite.

And we know that JuJ had visited with the Mitchells, and we know that she had asked LM why he had not called back. That he had said, I thought she was grounded. - Was it this moment that Jodi's mother became suspicious? - Which really ties in with this answer, given Jodi's mother that initial reason of doubt? - We know LM has denied this. why? - Well we know LM pretty much denied everything - why? - And is it not at these points, we enter into the realm of major cover ups and conspiracy theories. We see clearly the continuous lies from the Mitchells. We have this scraping at barrels in an attempt to show Jodi's family may have lied? That is 'may' have in comparison to these blatant ones? - I have yet to see one solid area of proof that this girls family lied - outwith JF who is brother to Jodi's cousin. Not a direct relation. Yet we are being asked to believe he cut his hair to look like his cousin, or goodness knows who really? These theories of CM. 

Therefore the police, the paramedics and the Jones family with LM - Who was clearly shocked? who was lying? And we know the evidence points directly to LM here.  It is not near enough to try and claim he was upset when there really is nothing to show this to be the case - in its entirety. It most certainly is not enough to hint at Jodi's family lying without solid proof that they did - it simply is not good enough, is it? To continually make claims of double standards and so forth - we can see why the police did not believe the Mitchells - their account completely fell apart. That gulf expanded rather than closed. - And it is futile to make claim to tunnel vision when we can see clearly why LM was suspect, and we know it is based upon solid founds.

The missing knife - these futile claims that JF had it, the missing one, the brown handled one. - And of the new one, that the professional search team, are claimed to have missed, after running their hands through the dogs dinner. That Ms Mitchell had bought online. Of asked where this was, as it was not found in the search. Toddling off to Beumont, oh it was in a bag, keeping it hidden from Luke - there's those bells again? And of the pouch and those words of endearment. Of course they were. - The evidence was handed to the police on a plate - mainly by the Mitchells. No tunnel vision of fit up required.

And we have the likes of Mr Steele on board, and his brother - These ever so reputable people. JS said he believes LM is innocent, well he must be then - that is all the proof we need. - The conspiracy theories, yet again are second to none, their phones are being hacked, they are being followed, one must not mention the 'amigos' in case it bites them on the backside later? - this was a young girl, horrifically murdered by her boyfriend - not some major terrorism act. - Is Ms Lean losing control here - To these very dubious characters? This rally that was held - no more than around 50 people at any one time - Ms Lean was assigned a body guard for goodness sake - Self importance or what? All around a case of a young girl being murdered by her boyfriend - conspiracy in line with every other set of crazed up theories and ideas.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2021, 03:49:16 PM »

I think, as I put in the post - this mention of shock and so forth that the police would have been picking up on. Not the individual of each other in the moment. That whilst none of us can put ourselves in any of those shoes - Of what a horrendous time this must have been - to be reporting a family member missing one moment - to be on a search barely 10mins and for Jodi to have been found dead. - One would imagine, nothing short of a sledgehammer moment? Those screams we hear off, of JaJ's heart sinking at something being found. Of hearing her grandmother screaming, of SK retching. - of very much being engulfed with shock, in this instant shock that they would not be giving much thought to anything - other than that of Jodi being found dead. And being asked by the police - what comes to mind is the screaming, the retching and so forth.  And let's be honest here? It is JaJ we hear of where LM is concerned. of her changing her mind - what did SK and AW say about LM? The mere fact that we hear nothing, tells us clearly, that nothing was said that could show LM to be upset.

The family very much caught up in Jodi's death. Completely understandable that LM would not be included in any mix, in respect of being responsible. Was anyone at this point? Were they simply first and foremost in shock. Trying to digest the fact that she had been murdered.  And equally understandable that once this initial, massive shock began to subside - once some clarity of thought crept in - that they then began to remember just how LM was on this path, after this discovery.  -Therefore, not really strange at all, is it? 

That once this shock was beginning to ease off, as those first couple of days went by. It is hard to decipher at which point clarity of thoughts began to sift through. - but it is not just these family members. It is the police, the emergency services whom attended. And it is very much everything from that moment. What the police and others saw that did not quite fit with this "everyone was in hysterics" Were these people still in hysterics? - The police asking for clarification as it was not tying with what they were witnessing? Was in those moments of being asked - that it began to dawn on them? When being asked exactly how the other was? We know LM had been sitting messaging away on his phone, calm and collective (paramedics). We know how he was whilst given his account and so forth - the point being made, that these small areas, which held no actual water are nothing in comparison to the evidence, to show the complete opposite.

We aren’t told what others, who witnessed Luke Mitchell’s demeanour straight after the finding of [Name removed]’s body, said of him - or of what their witness statements say
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2021, 03:53:02 PM »
And we know that JuJ had visited with the Mitchells, and we know that she had asked LM why he had not called back. That he had said, I thought she was grounded. - Was it this moment that Jodi's mother became suspicious? - Which really ties in with this answer, given Jodi's mother that initial reason of doubt? - We know LM has denied this. why? - Well we know LM pretty much denied everything - why? - And is it not at these points, we enter into the realm of major cover ups and conspiracy theories. We see clearly the continuous lies from the Mitchells. We have this scraping at barrels in an attempt to show Jodi's family may have lied? That is 'may' have in comparison to these blatant ones? - I have yet to see one solid area of proof that this girls family lied - outwith JF who is brother to Jodi's cousin. Not a direct relation. Yet we are being asked to believe he cut his hair to look like his cousin, or goodness knows who really? These theories of CM. 

 8((()*/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2021, 03:54:48 PM »
The missing knife - these futile claims that JF had it, the missing one, the brown handled one. - And of the new one, that the professional search team, are claimed to have missed, after running their hands through the dogs dinner. That Ms Mitchell had bought online. Of asked where this was, as it was not found in the search. Toddling off to Beumont, oh it was in a bag, keeping it hidden from Luke - there's those bells again?

 8((()*/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2021, 03:56:11 PM »
And of the pouch and those words of endearment. Of course they were. - The evidence was handed to the police on a plate - mainly by the Mitchells. No tunnel vision of fit up required.

 8((()*/
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2021, 06:52:15 PM »

I think, as I put in the post - this mention of shock and so forth that the police would have been picking up on. Not the individual of each other in the moment. That whilst none of us can put ourselves in any of those shoes - Of what a horrendous time this must have been - to be reporting a family member missing one moment - to be on a search barely 10mins and for Jodi to have been found dead. - One would imagine, nothing short of a sledgehammer moment? Those screams we hear off, of JaJ's heart sinking at something being found. Of hearing her grandmother screaming, of SK retching. - of very much being engulfed with shock, in this instant shock that they would not be giving much thought to anything - other than that of Jodi being found dead. And being asked by the police - what comes to mind is the screaming, the retching and so forth.  And let's be honest here? It is JaJ we hear of where LM is concerned. of her changing her mind - what did SK and AW say about LM? The mere fact that we hear nothing, tells us clearly, that nothing was said that could show LM to be upset.

The family very much caught up in Jodi's death. Completely understandable that LM would not be included in any mix, in respect of being responsible. Was anyone at this point? Were they simply first and foremost in shock. Trying to digest the fact that she had been murdered.  And equally understandable that once this initial, massive shock began to subside - once some clarity of thought crept in - that they then began to remember just how LM was on this path, after this discovery.  -Therefore, not really strange at all, is it? 

That once this shock was beginning to ease off, as those first couple of days went by. It is hard to decipher at which point clarity of thoughts began to sift through. - but it is not just these family members. It is the police, the emergency services whom attended. And it is very much everything from that moment. What the police and others saw that did not quite fit with this "everyone was in hysterics" Were these people still in hysterics? - The police asking for clarification as it was not tying with what they were witnessing? Was in those moments of being asked - that it began to dawn on them? When being asked exactly how the other was? We know LM had been sitting messaging away on his phone, calm and collective (paramedics). We know how he was whilst given his account and so forth - the point being made, that these small areas, which held no actual water are nothing in comparison to the evidence, to show the complete opposite.

And we know that JuJ had visited with the Mitchells, and we know that she had asked LM why he had not called back. That he had said, I thought she was grounded. - Was it this moment that Jodi's mother became suspicious? - Which really ties in with this answer, given Jodi's mother that initial reason of doubt? - We know LM has denied this. why? - Well we know LM pretty much denied everything - why? - And is it not at these points, we enter into the realm of major cover ups and conspiracy theories. We see clearly the continuous lies from the Mitchells. We have this scraping at barrels in an attempt to show Jodi's family may have lied? That is 'may' have in comparison to these blatant ones? - I have yet to see one solid area of proof that this girls family lied - outwith JF who is brother to Jodi's cousin. Not a direct relation. Yet we are being asked to believe he cut his hair to look like his cousin, or goodness knows who really? These theories of CM. 

Therefore the police, the paramedics and the Jones family with LM - Who was clearly shocked? who was lying? And we know the evidence points directly to LM here.  It is not near enough to try and claim he was upset when there really is nothing to show this to be the case - in its entirety. It most certainly is not enough to hint at Jodi's family lying without solid proof that they did - it simply is not good enough, is it? To continually make claims of double standards and so forth - we can see why the police did not believe the Mitchells - their account completely fell apart. That gulf expanded rather than closed. - And it is futile to make claim to tunnel vision when we can see clearly why LM was suspect, and we know it is based upon solid founds.

The missing knife - these futile claims that JF had it, the missing one, the brown handled one. - And of the new one, that the professional search team, are claimed to have missed, after running their hands through the dogs dinner. That Ms Mitchell had bought online. Of asked where this was, as it was not found in the search. Toddling off to Beumont, oh it was in a bag, keeping it hidden from Luke - there's those bells again? And of the pouch and those words of endearment. Of course they were. - The evidence was handed to the police on a plate - mainly by the Mitchells. No tunnel vision of fit up required.

And we have the likes of Mr Steele on board, and his brother - These ever so reputable people. JS said he believes LM is innocent, well he must be then - that is all the proof we need. - The conspiracy theories, yet again are second to none, their phones are being hacked, they are being followed, one must not mention the 'amigos' in case it bites them on the backside later? - this was a young girl, horrifically murdered by her boyfriend - not some major terrorism act. - Is Ms Lean losing control here - To these very dubious characters? This rally that was held - no more than around 50 people at any one time - Ms Lean was assigned a body guard for goodness sake - Self importance or what? All around a case of a young girl being murdered by her boyfriend - conspiracy in line with every other set of crazed up theories and ideas.

While you continue to make claims without the slightest sign of anything as boring as proof then members will treat your posts accordingly.

Brownie points though for nearly getting to the end of a post without mentioning Dr Lean.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Tunnel vision, by whom? Fit up by whom?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2021, 11:58:41 PM »
While you continue to make claims without the slightest sign of anything as boring as proof then members will treat your posts accordingly.

Brownie points though for nearly getting to the end of a post without mentioning Dr Lean.

‘Innocence fraud is very real’ - John M Collins (forensic scientist)

The ‘proof’ is - this is what Luke Mitchell claims are based on
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