The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary

[Nicholas]

Jeremy Bamber
@JBamberFacebook
#WhiteHouseFarm
Emma Morris and Yvonne Hartley from the campaign, explain the reasons why the team withdrew from the recent Mindhouse series, and discuss the inaccuracies in the series, setting out the actual case facts, Mindhouse didn't want to show.
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Yvonne and Emma discuss the recent Mindhouse programme 'The Bambers:...
Emma and Yvonne discuss the inaccuracies in the recent programme by Mindhouse produced by Florence Barrow and Directed by Lottie Gammon, Executive produced b...
8:34 am · 20 Oct 2021·Twitter for Android
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Emma Morris claims via her Twitter bio she ‘hates any kind of prejudice’

What about her own?

Emma also claims she wants a ‘truthful and fair society for all’ - except for women who wear ‘negligee’s’ ?

[Nicholas]

Dee Sadler
@deedeesadler
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@Bambertweets
The amount of misogynistic abuse the female members of this campaign team receives, beggars belief. Power to them. Red heart
10:39 PM · Oct 21, 2021·Twitter for iPad
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Isn’t it Dee Sadler who narrates the misogynistic podcast on Julie Mugford?

The same podcast where someone ridicules Julie for having a collection of cuddly toys in her Uni dorm seemingly ignoring Anji Greaves http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11197.msg572685#msg572685 🙄

And what about the misogyny behind the false premise of Sheila having been responsible for her brothers crimes?

[Nicholas]

Yvonne Hartley is her own worst enemy, she continually lies

Yvonne Hartley states at the beginning of the podcast,

‘We don’t assert anything in the public domain that’s not come from the case material we don’t speculate we don’t use guesswork we don’t give our own opinions

This is exactly what they do !

Yvonne goes on,

‘Everything that we assert on the podcast and in discussions is from the case material so people can be assured that it is the facts that were giving to police..’

[colsville]

Do you think Yvonne Hartley was overreacting to the request to sit on a bed to take a phone call from Bamber ?

Yes, she is over reacting because all she had to do was say that she'd rather sit at a desk in an office.  She could easily have politely said to the production team that sitting on the bed waiting for Bamber to phone trivialised what she's trying to do.

I think what she was doing was using the request as an excuse to attack the production team and denounce it as unfairly biased against Bamber.

It's possible that Hartley never had any intention of co operating with the documentary, and the purpose of her involvement was so that she could go away and attack it on her podcast, on her website, and any other interview she does in the future.

She must know deep down that Bamber is guilty, otherwise she wouldn't have to behave the way that she does.

[Nicholas]

Yes, she is over reacting because all she had to do was say that she'd rather sit at a desk in an office.  She could easily have politely said to the production team that sitting on the bed waiting for Bamber to phone trivialised what she's trying to do.

Again I concur

So why didn’t she assert this to the Mindhouse production team at the time?

[Nicholas]

I think what she was doing was using the request as an excuse to attack the production team and denounce it as unfairly biased against Bamber.

I don’t recall Lorraine Hastings sitting on a bed talking about Bamber

[Nicholas]

She must know deep down that Bamber is guilty, otherwise she wouldn't have to behave the way that she does.

Yvonne definitely appears conflicted

The ‘double binds’ are noticeable

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dceLVG0rdHE

[Nicholas]

It's possible that Hartley never had any intention of co operating with the documentary,

And it’s possible Mindhouse may not have intended on using her in their docuseries ?

[Nicholas]

It's possible that Hartley never had any intention of co operating with the documentary, and the purpose of her involvement was so that she could go away and attack it on her podcast, on her website, and any other interview she does in the future.

Whilst it appears highly probable Brett Collins polishing his Porche and combing his hair in the car window were ‘set up’ by the production team - he had the choice whether or not to go along with the idea - just as Yvonne did

The CT suggesting the Mindhouse production ‘raises serious issues about the treatment of women’ holds no weight as far as I can see - these appear to be projections

[Nicholas]

I think what she was doing was using the request as an excuse to attack the production team and denounce it as unfairly biased against Bamber.

Do you think the CT have all these ‘industry contacts’ as they (Yvonne) claim or are they referring to people like Mark Williams Thomas or maybe exaggerating or making things up?

Yvonne claimed Lottie Gammon was ‘going round the office’ saying Bamber was guilty

I very much doubt Lottie Gammon spent/spends any real time in any office (She referred to editing the series with one other person) and therefore find the above hard to believe

[Myster]

And it’s possible Mindhouse may not have intended on using her in their docuseries ?

A shamateur who claims to be a professional.

[Nicholas]

While I'm not one to cause trouble, and I would urge all to be respectful, Shaun Attwood has left comments open on his video and you can @ Yvonne there :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEf2WCKkT1M&t=1s

Bamber’s CT is made up of 5 people

Yvonne Hartley states at around 1:16:00

‘..we can’t keep letting erm television documentaries the media newspapers authors write what they want and we’re like we are only little group you know and it’s like we need to make a voice out there that’s even stronger so we wanna make more people listen so that’s why we decided right we’re gonna do these meetings every month we’re gonna put podcasts out you know so we’ve like recently in March when the submissions went into the CCRC we thought right we’ll tie that in and what we’ll do we’ll go through each piece of evidence and we’ll tell your everything about it and you can make your decision whether you believe us but everything taken from case material so we’ll give you that evidence and you judge for yourself then what you think so that’s what we’ve been doing isn’t it…’   

[Nicholas]

At the beginning of the podcast the narrator states,

‘The podcast goes on to discuss Mindhouse’s treatment of Yvonne - which raises serious issues about the treatment of women by the production’

What about ‘the treatment of women’ by Yvonne Hartley and the campaign team’?

I don’t consider Lottie Gammon or Flo Barrow to be female misogynists

I do however see a lot of unjustified hate and contempt for women coming from Bamber and many of his supporters

Are Yvonne Hartley and Emma Morris really not aware of the contempt and hatred they display towards Julie Mugford for example ?

or Sheila Caffell - who they want their followers to believe committed mass murder?

I sense real contempt and hatred in this podcast towards Julie ⬇️

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYZ4r9WalQ

[Nicholas]

I sense real contempt and hatred in this podcast towards Julie ⬇️

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYZ4r9WalQ

Heidi claims here ⬆️ Julie would have stayed with Bamber had he not said it was over

 🙄

Neither Heidi or Yvonne appear to have factored in Anji or Virginia Greaves

Yvonne also claims Julie loved Bamber ‘to the point of obsession’

Yvonne states of Julie,

‘She wanted to be lady of the manor’ 🙄

[Nicholas]

Here, although not sure if there was a previous set... http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12244.0

Brett Collins apparently made a police witness statement dated 1st October 1985 (p.451 Carol Ann Lee - notes and references)