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Offline Passer-by

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #330 on: August 19, 2015, 02:45:56 PM »
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Quite.  The woman in the jewellers which specialises in processing dodgy gold jewelry admitted it was an illegal exchange, she made no record of it - a very serious offence in a gold mining country - and she claimed he gave her dollars and her assistant told police in a statement he gave her gold.

Dewani claims he only took sterling on holiday with him.

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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #331 on: August 19, 2015, 03:04:42 PM »
So here is

1) a map showing the proximity of the hotel to banks at the V&A - hotel marked by the bottom star, helicopter trips office and departure marked by the top star.

2) the location of the dodgy jewellers (now the bottom star) that Dewani visited and transacted an illegal currency exchange in the 45 minutes he left Anni alone by the hotel pool whilst he vanished with Tongo the Taxi driver a few hours before the murder, it also shows he was surrounded by banks, given he was of course in the Central Business District (i have to admit even I was astonished when I researched this to find I've even been in that 'jewellers' which was operating even when the CBD was a no-go zone),

3) a photograph courtesy of Google Streetview showing the pedestrianised road where the 'jewellers' is - it's just down a few doors on the right but not clearly visible.  Of course the stonking great bank-like building on the left is First National Bank, which changes currency.


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Offline dewanifacts

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #332 on: August 19, 2015, 03:13:01 PM »
Here is another equally relevant image courtesy of our compadres at Google.




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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #333 on: August 19, 2015, 03:28:27 PM »
Here is another equally relevant image courtesy of our compadres at Google.



Well found:  I think it should be your profile pic.

So you absolutely cannot counter what Dewani was doing illegally changing money with the Txi Driver hours before th emir dear, or where that money went.

I strongly suggest you keep debating or anyone who googles 'Dewanifacts' will find this post and - in the Court if The People - judge you accordingly.  Especially as this website has far more web hits than yours thanks to other cases so will keep appearing in google searches.

In a way it's quite fitting you've chosen that photo for your epitaph.  Go and tell Shrien he will always look guilty in the eyes of the public.  Unless, of course, you are he . . . ?
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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #334 on: August 19, 2015, 03:37:18 PM »
Excellent! This thread now comes up twice on the first page of a Google search for 'Dewanifacts'!
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Offline dewanifacts

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #335 on: August 19, 2015, 03:41:55 PM »
I'm fairly certain that the "court if the People" can spot mental deficiency at close range.

Offline Passer-by

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #336 on: August 19, 2015, 03:44:12 PM »
Yes, I too am pretty certain they can distinguish between a member of the public typing one-fingered with autocorrect fired-up and someone with a clear Agenda who wriggles away from awkward questions by flinging insults around.

Offline dewanifacts

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #337 on: August 19, 2015, 03:55:10 PM »
You're asking someone to debate points that they have already conceded. As reply #324 indicated, we readily admit that there are elements of Dewani's story that seem unlikely. Lets move on. Turn your attention to the second scenario and the sequence of exceptionally unlikely events that one would need to believe occurred, in order for the hitman story to be true.

A senior judge didn't buy it.

If you are so desperate for this "debate" to continue then you need to address those improbabilities as outlined in reply #324 and explain why the judge got it wrong. I realise you are going to struggle with this because it means you cannot use the words gay and google street view, but lets see what you've got. 


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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #338 on: August 19, 2015, 04:06:47 PM »
Here is another equally relevant image courtesy of our compadres at Google.



Dewanifacts, Dewanifacts, Dewanifacts:  you do yourself no favours.  I think I'm going to reply to this post a lot.

So you never have answered what Dewani was doing for 45 minutes with the Taxi driver a few hours before the murders.  It's a fact recorded on the hotel CCTV.

1). It's also a fact he carried out an illegal currency change.

2). It's also a fact we don't know exactly how much money he got.

3). And it's a fact we don't know what he did with it.

4). It's a fact he could, whilst away from Anni, have nipped round to organise the helicopter trip, but didn't

5). It's a fact he could have given some of it to the taxi driver

6) and it's a fact he was planning to give the Taxi driver more money by leaving it in the Taxi during at the time Anni was murdered.

7).  It's a fact he changed his story about whose idea it was to go to the Township after engaging a PR specialist

8).  It's a fact he changed his story about how he escaped from the car without a scratch on him after engaging a PR specialist

9).  It's a fact he lied by omission about his sexuality over and over again to Anni, her family and his own family

10).  It's a fact he gave the Taxidriver more money in an envelope after the murders

11).  It's a fact he was surfing gay bondage sites on his laptop in the hotel with his grieving father-in-law nearby 3 days after Anni's murder - the same day he angrily corrected the BBC reporter - but claimed to be too traumatised to answer questions about how he got out of the car unscathed.

12).  It's a fact that whilst he has threatened to sue newspapers who ran stories about him being gay - later dropped - and to sue various people in South Africa for causing him to be prosecuted, he has never contributed anything to ensuring Anni's murderers are properly punished.

13).  It's a fact that whilst he needed a private jet with doctors and nurses provided at the expense of South African taxpayers to fly him to the trial, he was well enough to get on a scheduled flight and sip champagne to go home again.

All these facts are too awkward and you have only countered them with speculation and conjecture.

He's as guilty as sin and damned by his own actions.




Offline Passer-by

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #339 on: August 19, 2015, 04:12:00 PM »
You're asking someone to debate points that they have already conceded. As reply #324 indicated, we readily admit that there are elements of Dewani's story that seem unlikely. Lets move on. Turn your attention to the second scenario and the sequence of exceptionally unlikely events that one would need to believe occurred, in order for the hitman story to be true.

A senior judge didn't buy it.

If you are so desperate for this "debate" to continue then you need to address those improbabilities as outlined in reply #324 and explain why the judge got it wrong. I realise you are going to struggle with this because it means you cannot use the words gay and google street view, but lets see what you've got.

Always counter by sending me off on a wild goose chase.  Not everything we have discussed here was put before the judge,, so her judgment has no bearing:  she only made a judgement on what was before her.

We could theoretically have CCTV footage emerge of Dewani shooting Anni himself but he still could not be convicted of murder and her judgement would still be recorded and still stand.

So here we are again, you ordering me about instead of addressing what he did with the money from the jewellers shop and why he did an illegal transaction, and completely ignoring the slight issue of him only having sterling but the shop owner saying he changed dollars and her assistant saying she changed gold.

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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #340 on: August 19, 2015, 04:12:56 PM »
Here is another equally relevant image courtesy of our compadres at Google.



Damn:  I forgot to add this picture you posted #Dewanifacts

Offline Angelo222

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #341 on: August 19, 2015, 04:16:24 PM »
Let's keep the discussion amiable gents otherwise readers lose interest.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

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Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #342 on: August 19, 2015, 04:23:11 PM »
Here is another equally relevant image courtesy of our compadres at Google.



#Dewanifacts I am also still waiting to hear your response to that report by The South African Law Commission confirming I was not making "outlandish" statements about the prosecution rate of serious crimes like murde right, rape and violent robbery.

Come on:  you implied I was lying, I've proven I was not - an apology would be nice.

Offline Passer-by

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #343 on: August 19, 2015, 04:26:42 PM »
Let's keep the discussion amiable gents otherwise readers lose interest.

I think I'm doing quite well at keeping it amiable, despite #Dewanifacts posting a picture of a Fallas in reply to my post showing research on Streetview helpfully showing readers of this thread the location of Dewani's hotel and the illegal money exchange in relation to nearby banks.

Offline dewanifacts

Re: Website that analyses the Anni Dewani murder in detail
« Reply #344 on: August 20, 2015, 10:37:29 AM »
#Dewanifacts I am also still waiting to hear your response to that report by The South African Law Commission confirming I was not making "outlandish" statements about the prosecution rate of serious crimes

You were not asked to spit out a random unsolved crime statistic. You were asked whether you could substantiate your claim that "so many cases end like this" ("this" being a criminal getting a free pass despite having indemnity withdrawn and having confessed to his deep involvement in a crime that resulted in murder).

You cannot substantiate it.

We know this because we have researched this scenario and have been unable to find a single case that even comes close to being similar. The instance of Mbolombo is unique and proffers many questions, although the answers are in plain sight.

The NPA is scared to prosecute Mbolombo, for (as John and Carbon Copy pointed out earlier in the thread), it would open a can of worms that would explode in their faces. Once Mbolombo was facing 25+ years in prison, he would sing like a canary and blow the lid on the entire malicious prosecution of Shrien Dewani.

Mbolombo would likely continue to cover for the fifth conspirator due to personal safety fears, but he would hold no loyalty toward the SAPS or the NPA. He would expose the ineptitude of the SAPS and the NPA who failed to verify the hitman story before building high profile prosecutions upon it. He would expose their complicity in framing Shrien Dewani and pursuing a malicious prosecution by dangling attractive plea deals in the faces of the real criminals in exchange for their fabricated testimony about a murder for hire. He would expose the despicable way in which the Hindocha family were misled by the NPA into approving such generous plea deals for the armed kidnappers who took the life of their daughter. 

The fallout would be tremendous. High profile figures in South Africa would be exposed - Rodney de Kock, Bheki Cele, Justice Robert Henney to name but a few who would be dragged into the spotlight. 

That is why Mblolombo continues to enjoy his freedom and that is why we will continue to expose and publicise this miscarriage of justice.
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