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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2017, 06:15:20 PM »
I'll attach a tweet by image....

It definetly didn't snow on Friday 17th December 2010 on Canygne Road... I'm positive... I remeber Dr Vincent tabak Talking about taking photo's...

But he never mentions when Clegg speaks to him that he slipped in The Snow when collecting his Car... But he tells the prosecution that...

http://live-news.sky.com/Event/Live_Updates_Tabak_Cross-Examination?Page=0

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2017, 08:05:04 PM »
I didn't know this is where the "Green Fleece was in the flat..
 
How did they Know she took off her boots??
... How does Clegg know all this ???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8836324/Vincent-Tabak-strangled-Joanna-Yeates-after-she-invited-him-in-for-a-drink.html
Most of what Clegg states about Joanna's actions fits in well with the accepted facts. Obviously she took her boots off once indoors.

I am delighted that you have at last pounced on the green fleece, however. No one else in court, or outside, referred to Joanna having a green fleece. However, in the videos, you can see she has something bright green on underneath her cream coat. It is either the green lining of the coat, or a separate green fleece. Mr. Clegg was just teasing the Prosecution for not bothering to clarify this point. If it were a separate fleece, it is possible that Mr Clegg knew that she had not in fact been wearing it that day, and that the videos were all taken on another occasion, and the timestamps tampered with.

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #107 on: May 18, 2017, 08:15:04 PM »
If it's any help, I have a winter coat very much like Joanna's, and it has a detachable fleece!  Not green though---

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #108 on: May 18, 2017, 08:18:02 PM »
If it's any help, I have a winter coat very much like Joanna's, and it has a detachable fleece!  Not green though---


it was the first time I knew where the fleece was in the house....  Dr Vincent Tabak didn't put it there ....

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #109 on: May 18, 2017, 09:48:55 PM »


Was looking at an Image from the 31st December 2010 of 44 Canygne Road.... Apart from one light in one window... The whole building is in darkness...

Have all the tenants moved out by this Time ??

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2017, 09:52:27 PM »


As far as I am aware his Flat is above Joanna Yeates Flat.....

It appears that someone is making these flats appear occupied (IMO)..

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #111 on: May 18, 2017, 09:59:17 PM »


How many flats are there in that building??? There are Four Floors..

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #112 on: May 22, 2017, 12:41:57 PM »
There is only one big mystery here, and that is why the police didn't suggest waiting to see if Joanna turned up at work the next day. Instead, they sent officers out to Canynge Rd and roused the neighbours in the middle of the night. As far as we know, the police set up "Operation Braid" as soon as they arrived for work on Monday morning. This included setting up a website faster than you can say "Jack Robinson".

This may be due to the fact that Joanna's godfather DS Peter Yeates pulled some strings, or it may be because the police already know something about Joanna's fate that we can only guess at.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2017, 07:29:12 PM by John »

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #113 on: May 22, 2017, 02:26:35 PM »
Another report I find interesting is:

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The Avon Fire Service helped police remove the body, which was clothed and covered in snow, from the scene in order to preserve the site for a thorough forensic examination.


Why has there always been these articles about Joanna yeates being "Clothed"... whether "Fully Clothed " or not??

Why do they need to mention it so early on???

Another report talks about "The Mince Pies" that Joanna had printed "The Recipe " for and put it in her "Diary"..

But you click the link and it's been removed ??

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Breaking News

12:20pm UK, Tuesday December 28, 2010
Joanna Yeates Was Strangled, Police Confirm
"Mrs Yeates, 58, said her daughter had been busily preparing for Christmas and had been planning to make mince pies at the weekend, printing out a recipe from the internet and tucking it into her diary.

She said: "She had a new flat and new things and wanted it to be special for Christmas. She wanted to finish Christmas shopping and do some baking for Tuesday, when friends were due to come round for a Christmas party.""

Which friends were due to come round?????


http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/LET-COME/article-3038837-detail/article.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/joanna-yeates-police-satisfied-body-271510

http://empathysinsights.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/joanna-yeates.html 

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2017, 02:29:02 PM »
Wouldn't this statement warrant some action??

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Police are now trying to determine how long the body was on the verge.
A woman from a nearby village has reportedly said she was driving with her two daughters late on Christmas Eve when they saw a man run across the road and jump over a stile.
She said: "It was dark and it was very odd."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8226684/Missing-architect-body-showed-no-signs-of-injury.html

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2017, 03:03:10 PM »
Here'a a list of news Articles around the time of Joanna Yeates Case....

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NEWS UPDATES DECEMBER 2010
Police satisfied woman's body found on snowy verge is missing landscape architect

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-....l#ixzz19EJzy6UQ

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/c....-of-injury.html

her body was fully clothed and there were no obvious injuries.
One theory is that Miss Yeates was abducted, knocked unconscious and then died of hypothermia after being pushed out of a car and into the snow.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News....t_Was_Strangled

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Breaking News

12:20pm UK, Tuesday December 28, 2010
Joanna Yeates Was Strangled, Police Confirm
"Mrs Yeates, 58, said her daughter had been busily preparing for Christmas and had been planning to make mince pies at the weekend, printing out a recipe from the internet and tucking it into her diary.

She said: "She had a new flat and new things and wanted it to be special for Christmas. She wanted to finish Christmas shopping and do some baking for Tuesday, when friends were due to come round for a Christmas party.""

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/LET-COME/article-3038837-detail/article.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/29/joanna-yeates-sighting-flat-two-people

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Joanna Yeates could have left flat with two people
Chris Jefferies, 65, reportedly saw three people leaving her property on December 17 shortly after 9pm - not long after Miss Yeates, 25, arrived home alone - as he parked his car in Canynge Road.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress....31293627946622A

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NEWS UPDATE 30 DECEMBER 2010

Joanna Yeates' Landlord Held Over Murder
A 65-year-old man arrested by detectives hunting the killer of Joanna Yeates is her landlord Chris Jefferies, Sky sources say.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News....der%3A_Man_Held

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/c....-trip-away.html

Heres a new report saying that the Landlord helped fix the car that the boyfriend Greg Reardon used to go to Sheffield to see his brother.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view....rite-local-pub/

Joanna had dinner about 12.30 with her boyfriend at a local pub 7 hours before he was due to visit his brother.
NEWS UPDATE JANUARY 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12103905
This quote is interesting... Joanna had dinner about 12.30 with her boyfriend at a local pub 7 hours before he was due to visit his brother.


There are more... at http://empathysinsights.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/joanna-yeates.html

But alot of the links don't work anymore ??


Edit.... I'll just add this one because it describes "The Sock detail"

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She may have been abducted - or strangled there by a killer who carried her body away before dumping it in a snowbound lane.
The shoes and coat were found at Jo's flat in Clifton, Bristol.
But the two-tone grey sock, which has pale detail on the toes and shin, is missing - and could have been taken by a "trophy" killer as a grisly keepsake of his crime.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress....91294197569189A




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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2017, 10:07:36 PM »
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The grim discovery was made at 9am by a couple walking their dogs in the Failand area of north Somerset. An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said: "We are satisfied the body is Joanna Yeates, but this is pending the results of a post-mortem which is not expected for at least 24 hours due to the nature of how she was found in such extreme conditions."

What does "The Nature of how she was found" mean ??
Is this refering to the dog walkers???
Is the "Nature of how she was found" a problematic place to reach...??




 http://www.scotsman.com/news/joanna-yeates-police-inquiry-stalls-for-24-hours-because-body-too-frozen-1-1523123

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
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They were left baffled after finding no sign of injury on her frozen corpse and now fear she was not dead when ditched by the side of a golf course on Christmas Eve, with temperatures at -9C.

So at -9C.... Why did Andrew Mott need to stop a body from "Thawing"...

This article has a list of CCTV I need to check....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/joanna-yeates-may-have-frozen-to-death-after-271727


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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #118 on: May 23, 2017, 06:59:26 AM »
This Pizza and note business,.. just  keeps going round and round...

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Written on lined A5 paper and ripped from a notepad, the letter included a pizza label - but not that of the Tesco pizza purchased by Miss Yeates.

Bristol Ram landlord Alex Major said: "I can confirm we received a letter via the post on Monday 27, the first Monday after Christmas.

"There was a pizza label inside, but it wasn't a Tesco label."

The letter had a made-up address and telephone number written on it but had not been signed by the sender. It made reference to different pizza toppings and stated Miss Yeates' name, but did not make direct reference to her murder.


I started to think what this note must have looked like and visually A5 paper comes from something the size of an exercise book...

Could be a Note pad.... Could be from a filofax...Could be a Diary....

I'm actually surprised it didn't come to court..... And more made of it.... But I need to scrutinise the Article....

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In January 2011, at Line 10 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled news about Joanna Yeates and a label and letter sent to a public house.

Why is this Article in the paper?? We are given too much information to be honest... This is a murder inquiry how do the Police Know whether or NOT it is relevant??? They have "NOT" Arrested and Charged anyone in relation to Joanna Yeates "Murder" by the 14:21, 10 JAN 2011 as the Article is timed....

How can the landlord confirm he received the letter by post..... I was looking at that statement the other day and it bugged me... As far as I am aware.... There would not have been any post on Monday 27th December as.. Boxing day fell on The Sunday 26th December, which would make the following day a Bank Holiday...

Now part of this Article is written as if the information has come from "The Landlord" himself... The quote i have done appears to come from the Landlord... Infact the whole Article seems to have come from Information the Landlord has stated...

Gets me questioning...

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The letter had a made-up address and telephone number written on it but had not been signed by the sender. It made reference to different pizza toppings and stated Miss Yeates' name, but did not make direct reference to her murder.

How could he possibly know it had a made- up address and telephone number unless he had "Checked" what that address was and tried to ring the telephone number... Also if it didn't make "Direct" reference to her "Murder".. what "Indirect" reference to her "Murder" was contained within the Note??

It made reference to "Pizza Toppings"....  Is this a shopping list??

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Police took the letter away to be analysed.

An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said: "We take any reports of information in relation to this inquiry seriously. "Any leads that are provided from the public will be followed up."

So I believe my first quote I've used is The Landlords statement.... Because the Police say that they take any reports seriously.... So they wouldn't even divulge that they have recieved this NOTE ..(IMO)

When I read note pad... I thought a lot smaller but it isn't... A5 is a fair size.... plenty can be written on it...

Why would the person who wrote this note/letter put a fake address and phone number on it??

I'm now envisaging that it is written in the style of a formal letter... with the "Address and Phone Number" to the top right hand side of the paper...

Somebody has obviously gone to the trouble to "Post" this letter... surely the stamp would have DNA on it??

What did 'The Envelope" look like that this "Note/Letter and label" came in?? I say this because it only say:

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Police took the letter away to be analysed.
  'Where's The Envelope"?? I'm now thinking... did they not take the label as well??  Because you just assume they must... Don't make it correct..

Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have googled "Letter" sent to "Pub" now if it's a letter the construction of the text would be that as in a formal letter... But if it's a note... then the idea that a list of "Pizza" topping where written upon it would add to that.... How was this 'Letter/Note constructed ??

There is so much information that could be gleened from the way in which this 'Letter/Note is constructed, that to dismiss it out of hand before they have "Charged anyone with Murder" seems ridiculous....

Did this letter/note have spelling errors??  I know I mis-spell all the time... what was the phrasing on this Note/letter??  Was this Note/Letter written in Capitals???

The same applies to "The Label...... Was this "Label" ripped from a "Pizza " box?? Or was this "Label" carefully cut with a pair of scissors?? Whether you rip or cut.... it can tell a lot about the person who sent this "Letter /Note to 'the Bristol Ram"... Or did someone use a knife to hack at the "Label"??  There are obviously varying ways in which this Label could be detached from the box.....

Next question.... If "The Label" wasn't from "Tesco's how would he know ????

What supermarket branding was on this label??? If "NO" Supermarket Branding... how on earth do you know every "Pizza" and labelling that appears on a "Tesco's Pizza range of varying types.. to be able to say 'That it wasn't" from "Tesco's "??
That could only be possible if you are a "Pizza freak" and constantly purchase "Pizza" from various outlets, to be able to distinguish between one label and another...(IMO)..

If the branding wasn't visible... and the "Police" had mislead what"Actual" Pizza Flavour was purchased by "Joanna Yeates"....As demonstrated by Gareth Bevan.... Then how could anyone know if the "Pizza" label was not "Correct"??

This is very puzzling.....!!

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At 4.10 (pm) Tabak searched on Wikipedia for the words
‘Detention of a suspect’
‘letter and label sent to a public house’

http://www.criminal-lawyer.org.uk/39-CLN-JAN-2012.pdf
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/joanna-yeates-murder-sick-pranksters-173859

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Re: The Earlier Reports Made about the case
« Reply #119 on: May 28, 2017, 06:30:23 PM »
I'm trying to find proof that I believe some of the photo's that appear in the press relating to The Joaana Yeates case have been tampered with.. In my opinion...

With me never really being able to identify the colour of Dr Vincent Tabak's eyes ... I was looking for written detail... alas i didn't find it....

But I believe I have found one better ....

I have attached an image of Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja competing in "The Stroud Run 2009"

There are other images of them running and I'll come back to them...

On the image of the Stroud run October 2009 we can clearly identify there running Numbers...

Dr Vincent Tabak being Number 785
Tanja Morson being  Number     783

I thought I'd have a look at their times and see how fit they may be...  Firstly... which suprised me was that there times were identical.... both finishing at a time of exactly....

Tanja Morsons:      Gun Time = 02:34:31       Chip Time  = 02:32:18

Dr Vincent Tabak:  Gun Time =02:34:31        Chip time  = 02:32:18

To have a Chip time you need I believe is : Many races feature a timing technology in which all participants run with a computer chip attached to their running shoe.

But that is not the most interesting part of this information on the PDF.....

Dr Vincent Tabaks Number on The Photograph is ... 785
Dr Vincent tabak's Official Race Number is..........    784

Tanaj Morson's Number on Photograph is ...            783
Tanja Morson's Offical Race Number is ...                783

The person with the "Official Rave Number of .....     785   Is "Danielle Holden"  Again I believe that this Photo of Dr Vincent Tabak has been tampered with and we are probably drifting into "Nested Loops territory.. (IMO)..

There are other pictures of Dr Vincent Tabak running...  and he has a completely different number on altogether don't know which race it's supposed to be ....

The last image is of them taking part in a 10k run supposed together ... I think Dr Vincent tabak has been added to this photo..

Every Race Event that Tanja Morson has attended since 2006  Dr Vincent tabak does not appear on them... Tanja Morson always wears her 'West Bury Harriers shirt as they are Official races that she attends.....


Here are a list of events Tanja Morson has raced since 2006

http://www.thornburyrunningclub.co.uk/?page_id=1742

http://www.thornburyrunningclub.co.uk/?page_id=1742

http://www.cirencester-ac.org.uk/results/wb10k/2008-1.htm

http://www.runlog.co.uk/shaunc/results/ironwood2009.pdf

I'm aware they didn't get together as a couple for a while.. But I'm trying to establish... these running pictures ...

Are actually of a couple who run together .... somethings not quite true in relation to these pictures...

It is not until this RACE... That Dr Vincent Tabak's Name appears along side Tanja Morson

http://www.stroudathleticclub.co.uk/Content/Results/stroud_half_marathon/stroudhalf2009.pdf



http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/police-charge-vincent-tabak-with-jo-yeates-murder-108259204#vincent-tabak-runs-with-his-girlfriend-tanja-morson-in-the-stroud-picture-id108259311

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