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Offline Brietta

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2017, 10:18:48 PM »
I wouldn't bank on this if I was you.  The Portuguese Justice System is now looking like real shit, and totally devoid of Justice.  Have at it, as they may.

Personally, I don't really care anymore.  I am just appalled, and nothing to be done.  The PJ still have the dregs of the fascists  which will only die when the old men die.

The day will come.

But I'll tell you what.  No other person will ever fall down some steps of a Police Station, and no one will ever be tortured again to extract a  "Confession."

This alone is what Madeleine has done for Portugal.  I do most sincerely hope that The McCanns can see this.

It is the best ever.

Prescient as always, Eleanor.

With such a display of institutionalised intransigence one wonders just how much of the Portuguese reopening of Madeleine's case was merely a smoke screen and how much was a genuine effort to find out what happened to her.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2017, 10:22:35 PM »
You said will not
The correct phrase is cannot
Don't really matter squire.
Your prediction that Sr Amaral "was toast"  was somewhat wide of the mark.

Heads up for Call Me Mr Davel "doing a Daily Express".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2017, 10:26:39 PM »
' McCann’s “frivolity” complaint rejected.

Gonçalo Amaral’s ‘libel win’ confirmed for 3rd time. '

http://portugalresident.com/mccann%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cfrivolity%E2%80%9D-complaint-rejected-gon%C3%A7alo-amaral%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98libel-win%E2%80%99-confirmed-for-3rd-time#disqus_thread

Nothing in the UK press yet. &%+((£

Plenty of time yet. They are probably sitting at their whetstones.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2017, 10:30:16 PM »
Plenty of time yet. They are probably sitting at their whetstones.

the  sun never   fails to  react they adore the mcanns @)(++(*

Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2017, 10:35:24 PM »
amaral said he would never let the mcanns  win and  he is  right
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 10:41:28 PM by carlymichelle »

ferryman

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Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2017, 10:41:46 PM »
amaral said he wuld never let the mcanns  win and  he is  right

It's the courts that will (apparently) never let Kate and Gerry win, even though justice and righteousness is absolutely on their side.

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2017, 10:43:46 PM »
amaral said he wuld never let the mcanns  win and  he is  right

Ah, got that as a fact, have you?

Did you think about what you said?

Probably not.

But there you go.

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2017, 10:46:23 PM »
It's the courts that will (apparently) never let Kate and Gerry win, even though justice and righteousness is absolutely on their side.

You have got to be kidding.


Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2017, 10:50:03 PM »
It's the courts that will (apparently) never let Kate and Gerry win, even though justice and righteousness is absolutely on their side.

Like Slarti said to one of your cohorts the other day.
"You seem to have a poor appreciation of the lack of importance this case has" or something approximatively simular
It will be a mere footnote in history as the most expensive missing child case ........................ or then depending on what shows up in the fullness of time... &%+((£
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2017, 10:50:03 PM »
You have got to be kidding.

expect tantrums about this  lol @)(++(*

Offline pathfinder73

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2017, 12:33:23 AM »
Prescient as always, Eleanor.

With such a display of institutionalised intransigence one wonders just how much of the Portuguese reopening of Madeleine's case was merely a smoke screen and how much was a genuine effort to find out what happened to her.

Do you think the PJ are surprised that SY have got nowhere following other leads? At least they've eliminated a lot and maybe that was the point until one remains.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2017, 01:19:29 AM »
Do you think the PJ are surprised that SY have got nowhere following other leads? At least they've eliminated a lot and maybe that was the point until one remains.

I am certain that Scotland Yard have been working to full capacity on Madeleine McCann's case.  I am delighted that you recognise the vast elimination programme they have had to pursue in that process.  Resulting in, as we know from Portuguese sources, their interest in a man who carried out a burglary in the resort at noon on the day Madeleine disappeared.

That would appear to be their present line of inquiry ... stranger abduction with an apparently known criminal who may or may not know other criminals working the resort at the same time he was. 

Quite obviously SY cannot take the initiative to do anything regarding this Portuguese National until all the formalities have been met ... which as we know can take a considerable amount of time.
So maybe the Policia Judiciaria are less surprised about anything impeding SY progress than you might give them credit for.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline carlymichelle

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2017, 02:23:36 AM »
McCanns fail to stop 'not innocent' ruling in Madeleine's disappearance
Mark Saunokonoko
By Mark Saunokonoko

Kate and Gerry McCann were dealt a damaging blow today after a Supreme Court rejected a formal complaint against a ruling which stated they were not innocent in the disappearance of Madeleine.

The McCanns have been engaged in a protracted and expensive eight-year legal battle, using money from the Find Madeleine Fund, to silence a detective who authored a book that claimed they faked their daughter's abduction and covered up her death.

Last month, Portugal's Supreme Court upheld a 2016 ruling that Goncalo Amaral's 2008 book 'The Truth of the Lie' was indeed exercising his legal right to freedom of expression.

READ MORE: McCann's reaction to sniffer dogs in apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'

READ MORE: Abduction theories blasted as ridiculous; 'Maddie likely dead', crime expert claims

In February's ruling the judges also declared the lifting of Kate and Gerry's 'arguidos' status (a kind of formal suspect), and the 2008 archiving of the criminal investigation into Maddie's disappearance, did not mean they were innocent.

Lawyers for the McCanns, who have steadfastly claimed Maddie was abducted, described the Supreme Court's assertion as "erroneous" and "frivolous". They immediately laid the formal complaint.

Today, Supreme Court judge Dr Jorge Manuel Roque Nogueira threw that complaint out.
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Dogs specialising in detecting human cadaver and human blood were brought to Portugal in 2007, several months after Maddie vanished.

   
Amaral oversaw the original investigation into Madeleine's disappearance from the family's holiday apartment on May 3, 2007.

The McCanns were made 'arguidos' in the days following a cadaver and blood dog search that saw alerts made inside the family's holiday apartment and also a rental car Kate and Gerry hired 25 days after Maddie vanished.

The cadaver dog, trained to detect the odour of dead bodies, also registered hits on Maddie's favourite cuddly toy, Cuddle Cat, and two items of Kate's clothing.
Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine, holds her daughter's "Cuddle Cat" as she walks out from a mass in a Portuguese beach resort in the southern province of Algarve 10 May 2007.

Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine, holds her daughter's "Cuddle Cat" as she walks out from a mass in a Portuguese beach resort in the southern province of Algarve 10 May 2007. Source: AFP
Madeleine Beth McCann has been missing since May 3, 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

Madeleine Beth McCann has been missing since May 3, 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal. Source: AFP

Amaral was controversially removed from the investigation in October 2007, after he was deemed to have been critical of British police in an interview with a Portuguese newspaper.

The Portuguese detective later wrote a book based on the Madeleine case, and released it three days after the case was officially shelved, which was also when 'arguidos' status was lifted from the McCanns.

Amaral's book theorised Maddie had died in apartment 5A, and her body had been disposed of by Kate and Gerry.

In 2009, the McCanns launched a class action suit against Amaral and won an injunction against his book.
Former Policia Judiciaria detective Goncalo Amaral holds a copy of "Maddie: The Truth about the Lie" at its launch in Lisbon on July 24, 2008. Amaral led the investigation on the McCann case until he was removed from the case.

Former Policia Judiciaria detective Goncalo Amaral holds a copy of "Maddie: The Truth about the Lie" at its launch in Lisbon on July 24, 2008. Amaral led the investigation on the McCann case until he was removed from the case. Source: AFP

However, in October, 2010, that decision was overturned by the Court of Appeal in Lisbon, which ruled the injunction had violated Amaral's freedom of expression.

That judgement set the wheels in motion for a showdown that threatened to financially ruin the ex-police chief.

In April 2015 Amaral was ordered to pay $704,000 plus interest in damages, resulting in the freezing of his assets.

But with the help of donations from his supporters, Amaral challenged the libel ruling and won, at the same time successfully overturning the ban on his book.

The McCanns quickly lodged an appeal with Portugal's Supreme Court, which was rejected this year in February.
Kate and Gerry McCann arrive to the court house in Lisbon on June 16, 2014 for the closing arguments of the McCann couple's libel proceedings against former inspector Goncalo Amaral.

Kate and Gerry McCann arrive to the court house in Lisbon on June 16, 2014 for the closing arguments of the McCann couple's libel proceedings against former inspector Goncalo Amaral. Source: AFP

The 76-page ruling by the Supreme Court stated that no one should infer guilt or innocence on the McCann's based on their judgement.

"It should not be said that the appellants [McCanns] were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case," according to public court documents.

"In truth, that ruling was not made in virtue of Portugal's Public Prosecution Service having acquired the conviction that the appellants hadn't committed a crime.

"The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants."

Amaral has reportedly authored a second, yet-to-published, book about Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns are believed to have one final avenue to challenge today's decision – by lodging an appeal with the European Court of Human Rights.


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imo it shows how supressed the uk media is compared to our australian media

 8@??)(
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 02:27:52 AM by carlymichelle »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2017, 06:15:50 AM »
I wonder if they will go to the European Court (European Court of Human Rights, ECHR)?
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Re: McCanns application to have Supreme Court judgement annulled dismissed.
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2017, 07:24:11 AM »
McCanns fail to stop 'not innocent' ruling in Madeleine's disappearance
Mark Saunokonoko
By Mark Saunokonoko

Kate and Gerry McCann were dealt a damaging blow today after a Supreme Court rejected a formal complaint against a ruling which stated they were not innocent in the disappearance of Madeleine.

The McCanns have been engaged in a protracted and expensive eight-year legal battle, using money from the Find Madeleine Fund, to silence a detective who authored a book that claimed they faked their daughter's abduction and covered up her death.

Last month, Portugal's Supreme Court upheld a 2016 ruling that Goncalo Amaral's 2008 book 'The Truth of the Lie' was indeed exercising his legal right to freedom of expression.

READ MORE: McCann's reaction to sniffer dogs in apartment and rental car 'didn't make sense'

READ MORE: Abduction theories blasted as ridiculous; 'Maddie likely dead', crime expert claims

In February's ruling the judges also declared the lifting of Kate and Gerry's 'arguidos' status (a kind of formal suspect), and the 2008 archiving of the criminal investigation into Maddie's disappearance, did not mean they were innocent.

Lawyers for the McCanns, who have steadfastly claimed Maddie was abducted, described the Supreme Court's assertion as "erroneous" and "frivolous". They immediately laid the formal complaint.

Today, Supreme Court judge Dr Jorge Manuel Roque Nogueira threw that complaint out.
Play Video
Dogs specialising in detecting human cadaver and human blood were brought to Portugal in 2007, several months after Maddie vanished.

   
Amaral oversaw the original investigation into Madeleine's disappearance from the family's holiday apartment on May 3, 2007.

The McCanns were made 'arguidos' in the days following a cadaver and blood dog search that saw alerts made inside the family's holiday apartment and also a rental car Kate and Gerry hired 25 days after Maddie vanished.

The cadaver dog, trained to detect the odour of dead bodies, also registered hits on Maddie's favourite cuddly toy, Cuddle Cat, and two items of Kate's clothing.
Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine, holds her daughter's "Cuddle Cat" as she walks out from a mass in a Portuguese beach resort in the southern province of Algarve 10 May 2007.

Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine, holds her daughter's "Cuddle Cat" as she walks out from a mass in a Portuguese beach resort in the southern province of Algarve 10 May 2007. Source: AFP
Madeleine Beth McCann has been missing since May 3, 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

Madeleine Beth McCann has been missing since May 3, 2007 from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal. Source: AFP

Amaral was controversially removed from the investigation in October 2007, after he was deemed to have been critical of British police in an interview with a Portuguese newspaper.

The Portuguese detective later wrote a book based on the Madeleine case, and released it three days after the case was officially shelved, which was also when 'arguidos' status was lifted from the McCanns.

Amaral's book theorised Maddie had died in apartment 5A, and her body had been disposed of by Kate and Gerry.

In 2009, the McCanns launched a class action suit against Amaral and won an injunction against his book.
Former Policia Judiciaria detective Goncalo Amaral holds a copy of "Maddie: The Truth about the Lie" at its launch in Lisbon on July 24, 2008. Amaral led the investigation on the McCann case until he was removed from the case.

Former Policia Judiciaria detective Goncalo Amaral holds a copy of "Maddie: The Truth about the Lie" at its launch in Lisbon on July 24, 2008. Amaral led the investigation on the McCann case until he was removed from the case. Source: AFP

However, in October, 2010, that decision was overturned by the Court of Appeal in Lisbon, which ruled the injunction had violated Amaral's freedom of expression.

That judgement set the wheels in motion for a showdown that threatened to financially ruin the ex-police chief.

In April 2015 Amaral was ordered to pay $704,000 plus interest in damages, resulting in the freezing of his assets.

But with the help of donations from his supporters, Amaral challenged the libel ruling and won, at the same time successfully overturning the ban on his book.

The McCanns quickly lodged an appeal with Portugal's Supreme Court, which was rejected this year in February.
Kate and Gerry McCann arrive to the court house in Lisbon on June 16, 2014 for the closing arguments of the McCann couple's libel proceedings against former inspector Goncalo Amaral.

Kate and Gerry McCann arrive to the court house in Lisbon on June 16, 2014 for the closing arguments of the McCann couple's libel proceedings against former inspector Goncalo Amaral. Source: AFP

The 76-page ruling by the Supreme Court stated that no one should infer guilt or innocence on the McCann's based on their judgement.

"It should not be said that the appellants [McCanns] were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case," according to public court documents.

"In truth, that ruling was not made in virtue of Portugal's Public Prosecution Service having acquired the conviction that the appellants hadn't committed a crime.

"The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants."

Amaral has reportedly authored a second, yet-to-published, book about Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns are believed to have one final avenue to challenge today's decision – by lodging an appeal with the European Court of Human Rights.


© Nine Digital Pty Ltd 2017

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/03/22/12/26/kate-gerry-mccann-fail-to-stop-court-ruling-not-innocent-in-madeleine-disappearance#zFPH67tFjpSJCq4t.99



imo it shows how supressed the uk media is compared to our australian media

 8@??)(

Well there still appears to be no sign of what happened yesterday in the MSM.

I wonder why, as they reported the Supreme Court Decision rather quickly.