If Brueckner is Never Charged.

[Mr Gray]

I’m sorry but please can you stop implying that Holly is calling rape or child abuse “petty”. She clearly isn’t saying that imo. She is asking genuine questions about CB’s convictions.

Holly has clearly stated that Breukners has only been found guilty of petty crimes...I don't class paedophilia as a petty crime. holly is quite able to clarify this ...it is Holly who is implying paedophilia as a petty crime

[G-Unit]

I think its quite worrying that two posters here see paedophilia as petty

I think you've misunderstood their posts. Holly was clearly speaking about the courts;

Seems to me the courts regard these crimes as 'petty' if not they would impose custodial sentences.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11656.msg607021#msg607021

Barrier was also taking about the authorities, not himself;

I can link to another where 250,000 images were found, the police stopped counting,he also received a suspended sentence.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11656.msg607020#msg607020

[Mr Gray]

I think you've misunderstood their posts. Holly was clearly speaking about the courts;

Seems to me the courts regard these crimes as 'petty' if not they would impose custodial sentences.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11656.msg607021#msg607021

Barrier was also taking about the authorities, not himself;

I can link to another where 250,000 images were found, the police stopped counting,he also received a suspended sentence.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11656.msg607020#msg607020

I've misunderstood nothing you have...I will supply the link shortly where Holly is quite clear


Holly posted..


I doubt very much his previous amounts to anything other than petty crime. 


rather than admit her mistake holly tried to show courts see paedophilia as a petty crime

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=18.0

[G-Unit]

I've misunderstood nothing you have...I will supply the link shortly where Holly is quite clear

Please do. It's not acceptable to accuse other members unless you have evidence to support them.

[Mr Gray]

Please do. It's not acceptable to accuse other members unless you have evidence to support them.

I wouldn't do it unless I had proof...never mind evidence...you obviously didn't see the post

uote from: Davel on July 05, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
I think its quite possible he was involved based what his friends have said...based on his previous convictions...but it depends what this concrete evidence is. Im sure you are aware of the phrase..."the police are not looking for anyone else in this case"


It's all tabloid/media fodder imo which you see with all these cases.  The tabloids would have us believe Amanda Knox was involved in the murder of Meredith Kercher on the basis she performed some cartwheels shortly afterwards:

 https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/amanda-knox-did-cartwheels-after-merediths-death-28468668.html

I doubt very much his previous amounts to anything other than petty crime. 

[G-Unit]

I wouldn't do it unless I had proof...never mind evidence...you obviously didn't see the post

uote from: Davel on July 05, 2020, 07:14:57 PM
I think its quite possible he was involved based what his friends have said...based on his previous convictions...but it depends what this concrete evidence is. Im sure you are aware of the phrase..."the police are not looking for anyone else in this case"


It's all tabloid/media fodder imo which you see with all these cases.  The tabloids would have us believe Amanda Knox was involved in the murder of Meredith Kercher on the basis she performed some cartwheels shortly afterwards:

 https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/amanda-knox-did-cartwheels-after-merediths-death-28468668.html

I doubt very much his previous amounts to anything other than petty crime. 

Thank you, although I'm not sure that proves the poster believes that paedophilia is a petty crime.

[Mr Gray]

Thank you, although I'm not sure that proves the poster believes that paedophilia is a petty crime.

You would need to read the whole exchange of posts to have a valid opinion. I don't see any reason to try and argue that courts see paedophilia as a petty offence...I don't see that they do

[Holly Goodhead]

You would need to read the whole exchange of posts to have a valid opinion. I don't see any reason to try and argue that courts see paedophilia as a petty offence...I don't see that they do

Thousands of men go before the courts in developed democratic countries for possession of child pornograpgy, indecent exposure and child molestation which do not even result in custodial sentences. 

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-with-child-porn-given-suspended-sentence-4943658-Dec2019/

https://www.cps.gov.uk/west-midlands/news/former-parliamentary-candidate-given-suspended-sentence-child-sexual-abuse

http://www.ekathimerini.com/239160/article/ekathimerini/news/man-convicted-of-child-molestation-handed-suspended-sentence

[Holly Goodhead]

Any posts that refer to members here as paedophile apologists will be removed on sight.  Those that persist will receive warning points.

[Mr Gray]

Thousands of men go before the courts in developed democratic countries for possession of child pornograpgy, indecent exposure and child molestation which do not even result in custodial sentences. 

https://www.thejournal.ie/man-with-child-porn-given-suspended-sentence-4943658-Dec2019/

https://www.cps.gov.uk/west-midlands/news/former-parliamentary-candidate-given-suspended-sentence-child-sexual-abuse

http://www.ekathimerini.com/239160/article/ekathimerini/news/man-convicted-of-child-molestation-handed-suspended-sentence

I understand that...there was a rape in Portugal that resulted in a suspended sentence...that doesn't make rape a petty crime.
Just to clear up the supposed misunderstanding do you see paedophilia as a petty crime

[kizzy]

Seems like now they are saying they have no evidence to charge him surprise surprise.

Although I know it has already been posted its the bit about the mccs that has surprised me now you can read it in full.


Despite the recent call for witnesses to "Case number XY ... unresolved", the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig does not have enough incriminating material in Madeleine McCann's case for an arrest warrant against the German Christian B. "Spiegel" reports this, citing the responsible public prosecutor Christian Wolters. He is quoted as saying that "there is currently no urgent suspicion". The investigators presented 43-year-old B. as a suspect at the beginning of June. The sex offender, who has been convicted several times, is silent on the allegations.


 So far, no body has been found. British authorities have therefore announced that they believe it is possible that the girl who disappeared in 2007 is still alive. The case had caused a sensation worldwide, also because the parents of the then three-year-old child did nothing for years to find their daughter.



https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kein-dringender-Verdacht-gegen-Christian-B-article21889317.html?fbclid=IwAR3qUzJwj7q_KCWg2OmevC4tPSlX3cseyao4Ajs6BrH4yM5ApQeSJekRsR8

[jassi]

Seems like now they are saying they have no evidence to charge him surprise surprise.

Although I know it has already been posted its the bit about the mccs that has surprised me now you can read it in full.


Despite the recent call for witnesses to "Case number XY ... unresolved", the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig does not have enough incriminating material in Madeleine McCann's case for an arrest warrant against the German Christian B. "Spiegel" reports this, citing the responsible public prosecutor Christian Wolters. He is quoted as saying that "there is currently no urgent suspicion". The investigators presented 43-year-old B. as a suspect at the beginning of June. The sex offender, who has been convicted several times, is silent on the allegations.


 So far, no body has been found. British authorities have therefore announced that they believe it is possible that the girl who disappeared in 2007 is still alive. The case had caused a sensation worldwide, also because the parents of the then three-year-old child did nothing for years to find their daughter.



https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kein-dringender-Verdacht-gegen-Christian-B-article21889317.html?fbclid=IwAR3qUzJwj7q_KCWg2OmevC4tPSlX3cseyao4Ajs6BrH4yM5ApQeSJekRsR8

" British authorities have therefore announced that they believe it is possible that the girl who disappeared in 2007 is still alive "

I reckon it would cost the current DCI his pension to say otherwise   

[kizzy]

Direct quote from the NTV article above...

"The case had caused a sensation worldwide, also because the parents of the then three-year-old child did nothing for years to find their daughter."


it does make you wonder if SY has been doing nothing ...a really strange think to say.

[Mr Gray]

Seems like now they are saying they have no evidence to charge him surprise surprise.

Although I know it has already been posted its the bit about the mccs that has surprised me now you can read it in full.


Despite the recent call for witnesses to "Case number XY ... unresolved", the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig does not have enough incriminating material in Madeleine McCann's case for an arrest warrant against the German Christian B. "Spiegel" reports this, citing the responsible public prosecutor Christian Wolters. He is quoted as saying that "there is currently no urgent suspicion". The investigators presented 43-year-old B. as a suspect at the beginning of June. The sex offender, who has been convicted several times, is silent on the allegations.


 So far, no body has been found. British authorities have therefore announced that they believe it is possible that the girl who disappeared in 2007 is still alive. The case had caused a sensation worldwide, also because the parents of the then three-year-old child did nothing for years to find their daughter.



https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kein-dringender-Verdacht-gegen-Christian-B-article21889317.html?fbclid=IwAR3qUzJwj7q_KCWg2OmevC4tPSlX3cseyao4Ajs6BrH4yM5ApQeSJekRsR8

As you've posted it and think it's important could you explain what....no urgent suspicion...means

[Mr Gray]

The case had caused a sensation worldwide, also because the parents of the then three-year-old child did nothing for years to find their daughter.


it does make you wonder if SY has been doing nothing ...a really strange think to say.

That's obviously rubbish you are posting