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Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #585 on: July 14, 2020, 08:48:47 AM »
I would like to correct that.  I think that I have always said that I have a video that I found in a precise spot where I went searching.  This spot was decided after much research.  I have said that based upon several pointers, including wearing British Startrite shoes in a foreign country, I believe this girl to be Madeleine. 

There were quite a lot of pointers but I suppose that there could be loads of co-incidences.  I don't believe in too many co-incidences.
The upper nose, cheek bones, eye socket and brow are pure Kate as viewed from the 7/8ths side elevation.   With my computer ignorance, I only managed to trap the one image.    I have an  advanced eye for shape and with other things such as energy levels and body shape, I believe this little girl to be Madeleine.  But I always know that I could be wrong. 

This little girl  was also intelligent; she was the leader of a troop of child dancers at a festival

... and the reason I searched for an image was that on the internet there were whispers that Madeleine had changed so no-one would recognise her and she was out and about again.  Knowing where to look I soon found her, but months of hard work had gone in getting to that point.



Strangely that video has now been deleted from the internet, but not others of a similar event in other years. $65*.   It's my belief that you could almost solve this case just by looking at what has been deleted or altered on the internet.

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Wait, what? You have a video?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #586 on: July 14, 2020, 10:42:38 AM »
I would like to correct that.  I think that I have always said that I have a video that I found in a precise spot where I went searching.  This spot was decided after much research.  I have said that based upon several pointers, including wearing British Startrite shoes in a foreign country, I believe this girl to be Madeleine. 

There were quite a lot of pointers but I suppose that there could be loads of co-incidences.  I don't believe in too many co-incidences.
The upper nose, cheek bones, eye socket and brow are pure Kate as viewed from the 7/8ths side elevation.   With my computer ignorance, I only managed to trap the one image.    I have an  advanced eye for shape and with other things such as energy levels and body shape, I believe this little girl to be Madeleine.  But I always know that I could be wrong. 

This little girl  was also intelligent; she was the leader of a troop of child dancers at a festival

... and the reason I searched for an image was that on the internet there were whispers that Madeleine had changed so no-one would recognise her and she was out and about again.  Knowing where to look I soon found her, but months of hard work had gone in getting to that point.



Strangely that video has now been deleted from the internet, but not others of a similar event in other years. $65*.   It's my belief that you could almost solve this case just by looking at what has been deleted or altered on the internet.

Nigh night

British shoes being worn in a foreign country? It's even possible to buy British shoes in foreign countries in the 21st Century! Even in Portugal!

https://www.spartoo.pt/Start-Rite-b783.php?marque=783&type=1&track_id=adwo&ggnetwork=g&ggcreative=406954238099&ggkeyword=%2Bstart%20%2Brite&ggmatchtype=b&ggsource=s&mkwid=aIbXYTu4_dc&plid=&ggcamp=95254304&ggproduct_partition_id=&gclid=CjwKCAjwr7X4BRA4EiwAUXjbtxcv6EoXX9Nmh6XetiHctgmvGwoYbD04Bv1yVNFRbAMq-7ONMshWLBoCCNIQAvD_BwE#rst
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Offline Myster

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Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #588 on: July 15, 2020, 10:45:57 AM »
'German prosecutors are preparing to end their investigation into Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner as they warn probe 'can’t go on indefinitely' amid fears he could be freed from jail in days
........

Lead prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters today warned his team had no plans to 'drag this out unnecessarily' and said they would 'draw a line under' the investigation at some point, the Sun reports.

It comes as detectives are  set to learn on Thursday if Brueckner will be released from jail.

The serial sex offender is currently in prison in Germany serving a sentence for drugs offences - and should be starting a seven-year jail term for the rape of an elderly American woman in Portugal in 2005.

But his lawyers have appealed the conviction on a legal technicality and the European Court of Justice is poised to give its verdict in two days' time.

Today police said say they will decide whether to charge him or not 'within months', while Braunschweig's public prosecutor Mr Wolters told the Sun: 'Of course we have an interest in keeping our suspect in custody.

'This gives us access to interrogations in the event of an indictment. We have no endeavors to drag this out unnecessarily. We'll draw a line at some point and see.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8523449/German-prosecutors-preparing-end-probe-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner.html

Some Tabloid rubbish in there no doubt but the timescale for charges is months?  Interesting....would they be able to put together a watertight case in these few months?

Offline faithlilly

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #589 on: July 15, 2020, 10:48:24 AM »
'German prosecutors are preparing to end their investigation into Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner as they warn probe 'can’t go on indefinitely' amid fears he could be freed from jail in days
........

Lead prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters today warned his team had no plans to 'drag this out unnecessarily' and said they would 'draw a line under' the investigation at some point, the Sun reports.

It comes as detectives are  set to learn on Thursday if Brueckner will be released from jail.

The serial sex offender is currently in prison in Germany serving a sentence for drugs offences - and should be starting a seven-year jail term for the rape of an elderly American woman in Portugal in 2005.

But his lawyers have appealed the conviction on a legal technicality and the European Court of Justice is poised to give its verdict in two days' time.

Today police said say they will decide whether to charge him or not 'within months', while Braunschweig's public prosecutor Mr Wolters told the Sun: 'Of course we have an interest in keeping our suspect in custody.

'This gives us access to interrogations in the event of an indictment. We have no endeavors to drag this out unnecessarily. We'll draw a line at some point and see.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8523449/German-prosecutors-preparing-end-probe-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner.html

Some Tabloid rubbish in there no doubt but the timescale for charges is months?  Interesting....would they be able to put together a watertight case in these few months?

When they haven’t managed it since 2017....I doubt it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #590 on: July 15, 2020, 11:00:01 AM »
When they haven’t managed it since 2017....I doubt it.
Depends what they charge him with. They've surely got enough for possession of child porn, allegedly?
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Offline jassi

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #591 on: July 15, 2020, 11:07:39 AM »
Depends what they charge him with. They've surely got enough for possession of child porn, allegedly?

So why haven't they done so - it sounds a separate case.
Maybe this child porn allegation isn't quite as clear-cut as the media has claimed.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline faithlilly

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #592 on: July 15, 2020, 11:09:31 AM »
Depends what they charge him with. They've surely got enough for possession of child porn, allegedly?

Absolutely but specifically in relation to Madeleine.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #593 on: July 15, 2020, 11:23:40 AM »
So why haven't they done so - it sounds a separate case.
Maybe this child porn allegation isn't quite as clear-cut as the media has claimed.
Indeed. He'd be processed by now if they had a forensic link back to him.
But they're not after the minnow, they're after the Big Tuna (one for fans of The Office there)
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Offline misty

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #594 on: July 15, 2020, 12:03:12 PM »

"I can see where this is all leading now. PJ have had an anonymous tip off about where to find the body & it will be located in Gerry's blue tennis bag at the bottom of a well. The concrete evidence Germans have will turn out to have been faked & planted by MI6. The McCanns will be extradited to Portugal on a murder charge just in time for EAW's to still be valid. Hic."

I've been pondering my previous tongue-in-cheek post made on another thread & something rather disturbing came into my mind - so much so it kept me awake last night for hours.
Suppose the PJ have had an "anonymous" tip off regarding the location of Madeleine's body, details of which they haven't shared with the German police. Are PJ now in a race against time to locate the body before German police complete their investigation into CB? It struck me that, if PJ have the body & it's found in Vila do Bispo where GM's phone pinged in late July, PJ then have a complete case against the McCanns (circumstantial, body, dogs, phone pings, hypothesis etc).
The Germans, on the other hand, need the body, confirmation CB used the mobile phone central to their investigation in Luz + forensics linking him to 5A. If PJ refuse to assist the Germans by granting them access to the forensics &/or skeletal remains examinations then the German investigation may not reach a level required for prosecution.
Hypothetically, the aforementioned could result in what may be a unique legal situation  whereby the McCanns would need to use evidence obtained by the Germans against CB in defence of a criminal prosecution against themselves. Would Portuguese courts even permit evidence obtained by another country's legal system to be used as such a defence? How could CB be simultaneously prosecuted in Germany for the same crime against Madeleine as the MCCanns would be in Portugal?
I foresee a situation in which the Portuguese could apply for an EAW to bring the McCanns to face trial in Portugal, the UK refuse to extradite based on what the Germans have uncovered & no-one ever sees the inside of a courtroom. The Portuguese would blame the UK, the Germans would blame Portugal & the real criminals would be cock-a-hoop.
All my own, slightly demented, opinion.

Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #595 on: July 15, 2020, 12:04:15 PM »
"I can see where this is all leading now. PJ have had an anonymous tip off about where to find the body & it will be located in Gerry's blue tennis bag at the bottom of a well. The concrete evidence Germans have will turn out to have been faked & planted by MI6. The McCanns will be extradited to Portugal on a murder charge just in time for EAW's to still be valid. Hic."

I've been pondering my previous tongue-in-cheek post made on another thread & something rather disturbing came into my mind - so much so it kept me awake last night for hours.
Suppose the PJ have had an "anonymous" tip off regarding the location of Madeleine's body, details of which they haven't shared with the German police. Are PJ now in a race against time to locate the body before German police complete their investigation into CB? It struck me that, if PJ have the body & it's found in Vila do Bispo where GM's phone pinged in late July, PJ then have a complete case against the McCanns (circumstantial, body, dogs, phone pings, hypothesis etc).
The Germans, on the other hand, need the body, confirmation CB used the mobile phone central to their investigation in Luz + forensics linking him to 5A. If PJ refuse to assist the Germans by granting them access to the forensics &/or skeletal remains examinations then the German investigation may not reach a level required for prosecution.
Hypothetically, the aforementioned could result in what may be a unique legal situation  whereby the McCanns would need to use evidence obtained by the Germans against CB in defence of a criminal prosecution against themselves. Would Portuguese courts even permit evidence obtained by another country's legal system to be used as such a defence? How could CB be simultaneously prosecuted in Germany for the same crime against Madeleine as the MCCanns would be in Portugal?
I foresee a situation in which the Portuguese could apply for an EAW to bring the McCanns to face trial in Portugal, the UK refuse to extradite based on what the Germans have uncovered & no-one ever sees the inside of a courtroom. The Portuguese would blame the UK, the Germans would blame Portugal & the real criminals would be cock-a-hoop.
All my own, slightly demented, opinion.
Can you summarise for the hard of reading?
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Offline barrier

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #596 on: July 15, 2020, 12:04:52 PM »
"I can see where this is all leading now. PJ have had an anonymous tip off about where to find the body & it will be located in Gerry's blue tennis bag at the bottom of a well. The concrete evidence Germans have will turn out to have been faked & planted by MI6. The McCanns will be extradited to Portugal on a murder charge just in time for EAW's to still be valid. Hic."

I've been pondering my previous tongue-in-cheek post made on another thread & something rather disturbing came into my mind - so much so it kept me awake last night for hours.
Suppose the PJ have had an "anonymous" tip off regarding the location of Madeleine's body, details of which they haven't shared with the German police. Are PJ now in a race against time to locate the body before German police complete their investigation into CB? It struck me that, if PJ have the body & it's found in Vila do Bispo where GM's phone pinged in late July, PJ then have a complete case against the McCanns (circumstantial, body, dogs, phone pings, hypothesis etc).
The Germans, on the other hand, need the body, confirmation CB used the mobile phone central to their investigation in Luz + forensics linking him to 5A. If PJ refuse to assist the Germans by granting them access to the forensics &/or skeletal remains examinations then the German investigation may not reach a level required for prosecution.
Hypothetically, the aforementioned could result in what may be a unique legal situation  whereby the McCanns would need to use evidence obtained by the Germans against CB in defence of a criminal prosecution against themselves. Would Portuguese courts even permit evidence obtained by another country's legal system to be used as such a defence? How could CB be simultaneously prosecuted in Germany for the same crime against Madeleine as the MCCanns would be in Portugal?
I foresee a situation in which the Portuguese could apply for an EAW to bring the McCanns to face trial in Portugal, the UK refuse to extradite based on what the Germans have uncovered & no-one ever sees the inside of a courtroom. The Portuguese would blame the UK, the Germans would blame Portugal & the real criminals would be cock-a-hoop.
All my own, slightly demented, opinion.

If this keeps you awake, a holiday is much needed imo.
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Offline jassi

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #597 on: July 15, 2020, 12:06:55 PM »
"I can see where this is all leading now. PJ have had an anonymous tip off about where to find the body & it will be located in Gerry's blue tennis bag at the bottom of a well. The concrete evidence Germans have will turn out to have been faked & planted by MI6. The McCanns will be extradited to Portugal on a murder charge just in time for EAW's to still be valid. Hic."

I've been pondering my previous tongue-in-cheek post made on another thread & something rather disturbing came into my mind - so much so it kept me awake last night for hours.
Suppose the PJ have had an "anonymous" tip off regarding the location of Madeleine's body, details of which they haven't shared with the German police. Are PJ now in a race against time to locate the body before German police complete their investigation into CB? It struck me that, if PJ have the body & it's found in Vila do Bispo where GM's phone pinged in late July, PJ then have a complete case against the McCanns (circumstantial, body, dogs, phone pings, hypothesis etc).
The Germans, on the other hand, need the body, confirmation CB used the mobile phone central to their investigation in Luz + forensics linking him to 5A. If PJ refuse to assist the Germans by granting them access to the forensics &/or skeletal remains examinations then the German investigation may not reach a level required for prosecution.
Hypothetically, the aforementioned could result in what may be a unique legal situation  whereby the McCanns would need to use evidence obtained by the Germans against CB in defence of a criminal prosecution against themselves. Would Portuguese courts even permit evidence obtained by another country's legal system to be used as such a defence? How could CB be simultaneously prosecuted in Germany for the same crime against Madeleine as the MCCanns would be in Portugal?I foresee a situation in which the
Portuguese could apply for an EAW to bring the McCanns to face trial in Portugal, the UK refuse to extradite based on what the Germans have uncovered & no-one ever sees the inside of a courtroom. The Portuguese would blame the UK, the Germans would blame Portugal & the real criminals would be cock-a-hoop.
All my own, slightly demented, opinion.


They'll need to be pretty smart about it as UK is leaving the EAW system in January
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #598 on: July 15, 2020, 12:16:05 PM »
Can you summarise for the hard of reading?

For the benefit of the hard of understanding, you will need to read it at least 3 times.

Offline misty

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #599 on: July 15, 2020, 12:36:27 PM »

They'll need to be pretty smart about it as UK is leaving the EAW system in January

That's why I asked if they are in a race against time to locate the body. IMO the Portuguese will have no interest in pursuing a prosecution against a German citizen in relation to a British victim. Their interest will rest in CB being successfully prosecuted in Germany for Madeleine's murder & the inevitable repercussions regarding the reputation of the Portuguese justice system, especially the MM investigation team. The McCanns will also be able to consider suing the State for compensation.