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Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #645 on: July 15, 2020, 07:55:09 PM »
It's interesting. You reap what you sow. They're probably sifting through the data they have received from their appeal and it may take several weeks to follow up the more promising of leads. But they knew this when they went public, which suggests to me that they're not too concerned about the timescale or him being released, as they've got the child porn charges in the back pocket as a minimum.

What child porn charges? His property was searched in 2016 and he was serving a sentence for what was found in 2018, then he was tried for rape and drugs offences. I don't think they have anything else on him or why would they appeal publically just before he's due for release. They would have him convicted whilst in prison for the drugs charges. ( his current sentence)

Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #646 on: July 15, 2020, 07:58:50 PM »
‘End’ vs ‘complete’. Semantics really.

Well you said 'completed' where as the source says 'preparing to end'. That's a big difference. The fact he says he would like to wrap it up within month (s) plural suggests they are not at the end even though they may just legally be tying things up.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #647 on: July 15, 2020, 07:59:50 PM »
What child porn charges? His property was searched in 2016 and he was serving a sentence for what was found in 2018, then he was tried for rape and drugs offences. I don't think they have anything else on him or why would they appeal publically just before he's due for release. They would have him convicted whilst in prison for the drugs charges. ( his current sentence)

there dont seem to have been any charges for the possession of child pornography...then that is outstanding

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #648 on: July 15, 2020, 08:00:50 PM »
Well you said 'completed' where as the source says 'preparing to end'. That's a big difference. The fact he says he would like to wrap it up within month (s) plural suggests they are not at the end even though they may just legally be tying things up.

Don't believe everything in the article is totally accurate

Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #649 on: July 15, 2020, 08:01:11 PM »
What child porn charges? His property was searched in 2016 and he was serving a sentence for what was found in 2018, then he was tried for rape and drugs offences. I don't think they have anything else on him or why would they appeal publically just before he's due for release. They would have him convicted whilst in prison for the drugs charges. ( his current sentence)
Well the timing is interesting. It takes many months to forensically sift through 1000's of images, perhaps it took 2 years (about 20 months actually) for this provincial force to analyse the cache. In the course of this process they stumble across the apparent images in question (just a theory) and then formulate a plan. Who knows...
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Offline Anthro

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #650 on: July 15, 2020, 08:03:47 PM »
Well you said 'completed' where as the source says 'preparing to end'. That's a big difference. The fact he says he would like to wrap it up within month (s) plural suggests they are not at the end even though they may just legally be tying things up.
Fair enough. We obviously interpret words and context differently.

Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #651 on: July 15, 2020, 09:03:03 PM »
there dont seem to have been any charges for the possession of child pornography...then that is outstanding

I provided a source may have been on another thread but he got 15 months. He was also let out mistakenly in 2018 for four weeks whilst serving that sentence. That was reported in the German press when the prosecutors were investigated for that potential 'misconduct'.

Here's one source  '2016: He is back in Germany. He is given 15 months in prison for 'sexual abuse of a child in the act of creating and possessing child pornographic material'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394855/Christian-Brueckner-linked-FOURTH-unsolved-case.html

Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #652 on: July 15, 2020, 09:06:18 PM »
Well the timing is interesting. It takes many months to forensically sift through 1000's of images, perhaps it took 2 years (about 20 months actually) for this provincial force to analyse the cache. In the course of this process they stumble across the apparent images in question (just a theory) and then formulate a plan. Who knows...

Maybe but I would think that legally, they would have to go through every image before they charged him if that was the evidence they found ( memory stick). It wouldn't be good if they got half way through, missed a murder and then decided to do pursue that crime later?

Offline The General

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #653 on: July 15, 2020, 09:21:26 PM »
Maybe but I would think that legally, they would have to go through every image before they charged him if that was the evidence they found ( memory stick). It wouldn't be good if they got half way through, missed a murder and then decided to do pursue that crime later?
It could be that they're still on with the analysis, just discovered the alleged images in May / June.
I dunno, I'm reaching.
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Offline jassi

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #654 on: July 15, 2020, 09:40:35 PM »
They might get him for possession but unless it can be proved that he took the original images, it would be difficult to link him to the death of Madeleine.
He could have been given a pre-loaded stick, or downloaded the images from the web.
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Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #655 on: July 15, 2020, 10:02:57 PM »
If he was charged prosecutors have to detail the crime, the time and place etc. I don't see how anyone could place him at the scene to fit with the Tapas timeline.

 The witnesses out on the road ( McCanns, Tapas, Wilkins)  didn't see him. No-one heard him or a crying child. If she was not crying but he took her and she remained asleep....again, no-one saw him. In all these years no other witnesses seem to have seen anyone around 5a that night, only hours before... unless someone can correct me.

I would imagine his lawyers would also question this.
 
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #656 on: July 15, 2020, 10:24:54 PM »
If he was charged prosecutors have to detail the crime, the time and place etc. I don't see how anyone could place him at the scene to fit with the Tapas timeline.

 The witnesses out on the road ( McCanns, Tapas, Wilkins)  didn't see him. No-one heard him or a crying child. If she was not crying but he took her and she remained asleep....again, no-one saw him. In all these years no other witnesses seem to have seen anyone around 5a that night, only hours before... unless someone can correct me.

I would imagine his lawyers would also question this.
what you are saying is an abductuion is impossible...that isnt what SY or the Germans think and they have access to more info tahn we do

Offline Brietta

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #657 on: July 15, 2020, 10:27:32 PM »
If he was charged prosecutors have to detail the crime, the time and place etc. I don't see how anyone could place him at the scene to fit with the Tapas timeline.

 The witnesses out on the road ( McCanns, Tapas, Wilkins)  didn't see him. No-one heard him or a crying child. If she was not crying but he took her and she remained asleep....again, no-one saw him. In all these years no other witnesses seem to have seen anyone around 5a that night, only hours before... unless someone can correct me.

I would imagine his lawyers would also question this.

I would imagine that the man seen by Jane Tanner carrying a little barefoot girl away from the direction of 5A might assume renewed prominence.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #658 on: July 15, 2020, 10:31:48 PM »
I would imagine that the man seen by Jane Tanner carrying a little barefoot girl away from the direction of 5A might assume renewed prominence.

Then you would be saying Scotland Yard mistakenly identified him and made a huge error.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: If Brueckner is Never Charged.
« Reply #659 on: July 15, 2020, 10:36:50 PM »
I would imagine that the man seen by Jane Tanner carrying a little barefoot girl away from the direction of 5A might assume renewed prominence.

In  what respect?

she couldn't identify him anyway, and the time line would come back into the spotlight.
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