If Brueckner is Never Charged.

[sadie]

Trouble is they're made in Portugal or India, not Britain since 2003... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start-rite

The country where ?Madeleine was wearing them was neither Portugal, nor India, but I take your point.

The same comments about who would buy them stand as in the post above

At 70 Euros a pair for childrens shoes then it would be mega rich elites, or rich people with a British connection who would buy them.


My suspect fits both those criteria.

[faithlilly]

Exactly  … and they could be bought in the Country where I believe I saw Madeleine dancing.  But at over 70 euros a pair for a child, who is going to buy them ?

I would suggest that it might be a very rich person (an elite) or a person of British connection who is also very well off.   Both descriptions match my elite suspect
 
I can only remember having Startrites fitted once when I was a child, and my guess is that it was after my older sister had to have treatment for crooked toes and bunions. Mum and Dad weren't going to make the same mistake twice.   
I only once was able to afford to have my children fully fitted for Startrights, but like my Mum and Dad with me, I took the next best option for my children of semi fitted Clarks.   Both children had good feet.

No one has to buy them, charities receive and donate items like Startrites all the time. Children outgrow shoes very fast and by the time the shoes are donated they are usually still in a good condition.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I am incredulous that you have posted that given the terrifying and life changing ordeal that Brueckner put that woman through.

He didn't beat her with any old common or garden strip of metal ... I believe he used a sharp killing instrument ... as well as the pain of her torture there must have been the mental anguish that was how she was going to die at the hands of a sadistic torturer and rapist.

What on earth are you talking about? When have I defended anything that CB did to the woman he raped? The point I was making is that it isn't just in Portugal that rapists are not given the punishment they deserve. I said most rapists in the UK don't even go to court. That's a fact, but in no way does it defend that rapist monster.

[Brietta]

What on earth are you talking about? When have I defended anything that CB did to the woman he raped? The point I was making is that it isn't just in Portugal that rapists are not given the punishment they deserve. I said most rapists in the UK don't even go to court. That's a fact, but in no way does it defend that rapist monster.

There are complex issues behind the present situation regarding rape cases in England and Wales. 

But I could almost guarantee that should an elderly woman be treated to the prolonged torture,humiliation,terror and abuse suffered by Brueghner's rape victim that charges would be brought.
Particularly since he left forensics behind him which led to his conviction for the outrage in Germany.

[faithlilly]

There are complex issues behind the present situation regarding rape cases in England and Wales. 

But I could almost guarantee that should an elderly woman be treated to the prolonged torture,humiliation,terror and abuse suffered by Brueghner's rape victim that charges would be brought.
Particularly since he left forensics behind him which led to his conviction for the outrage in Germany.

Please explain what complex issues are present in UK rape cases that do not exist in other country’s cases ?

[sadie]

No one has to buy them, charities receive and donate items like Startrites all the time. Children outgrow shoes very fast and by the time the shoes are donated they are usually still in a good condition.

Oh really !

Sounds rather like clutching at straws to me

[G-Unit]

There are complex issues behind the present situation regarding rape cases in England and Wales. 

But I could almost guarantee that should an elderly woman be treated to the prolonged torture,humiliation,terror and abuse suffered by Brueghner's rape victim that charges would be brought.
Particularly since he left forensics behind him which led to his conviction for the outrage in Germany.

Didn't Amaral hint that the crime wasn't reported?

[Eleanor]

Didn't Amaral hint that the crime wasn't reported?

So why was it Investigated?  And by whom, I wonder?

[Brietta]

So why was it Investigated?  And by whom, I wonder?

Someone definitely went to the bother of carrying out a forensic sweep at the crime scene from where Brueckner's DNA was recovered.

[Mr Gray]

Someone definitely went to the bother of carrying out a forensic sweep at the crime scene from where Brueckner's DNA was recovered.

so it had to have been reported....more misinformation from amaral

[Eleanor]

so it had to have been reported....more misinformation from amaral

And G-Unit isn't helping as it is obvious that it was reported.  And at least the poor woman would have needed hospital treatment.  No?  Or perhaps they thought she hurt herself.  A bit like that Australian woman who hit herself over the head with an axe four times.

One tends to forget the absolute horror of some of it because there was so much.  I will never be the same wimp I once was.

Such a pity.  I did so like Portugal.

[Brietta]

And G-Unit isn't helping as it is obvious that it was reported.  And at least the poor woman would have needed hospital treatment.  No?  Or perhaps they thought she hurt herself.  A bit like that Australian woman who hit herself over the head with an axe four times.

One tends to forget the absolute horror of some of it because there was so much.  I will never be the same wimp I once was.

Such a pity.  I did so like Portugal.

Sandra Felgueiras showed file photographs which I think must have been taken taken for evidence showing the bruises on the woman's body.  Therefore someone gathered enough evidence to support bringing a case.

The wonder for me is that the Germans raised the case against him  ... not the Portuguese.

[Eleanor]

Sandra Felgueiras showed file photographs which I think must have been taken taken for evidence showing the bruises on the woman's body.  Therefore someone gathered enough evidence to support bringing a case.

The wonder for me is that the Germans raised the case against him  ... not the Portuguese.

The Portuguese weren't interested and The Germans had him.

I am not sure of the legal implications regarding The Extradition Warrant, but No One Else was doing anything.  Portugal, Italy and then back to Germany.  Who on earth was supposed to deal with this man?  And at least The Germans are trying to do something about one of their own.

I am tired of blaming Portugal.  It is always the same old same old.  Portugal was utter useless and we all know that.

Whether or not Portugal had an agenda is probably a point for discussion, but I am not sure if  I would Approve a Thread on that if someone else started it, so I can hardly start a Thread myself.

[Venturi Swirl]

I wonder if it's possible that the Portuguese justice system is racist / xenophobic or is it just generally useless?  It does seem not to be all that interested in investigating crimes against foreign nationals....

[Eleanor]

I wonder if it's possible that the Portuguese justice system is racist / xenophobic or is it just generally useless?  It does seem not to be all that interested in investigating crimes against foreign nationals....

Or Women.