Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

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Oh yes, in my opinion it was champagne that the police would not tell us was in the black bag.

Tattinger Reims ???????

[PaultheRed]

After conviction, details were released of his use of prostitutes and the contents of his computer which showed he had viewed violent and sexual pornography including strangulation pornography. Questions have been asked as to why such evidence was excluded in the trial. In analysing the judge’s decision it has to be borne in mind that not all people who watch pornography are murderers. Evidence of the bad character of a defendant is admissible as part of the prosecution case where it is relevant to the issues and not too prejudicial to a fair trial.

‘Bad character’ evidence is evidence that the defendant has carried out reprehensible behaviour other than the offence charged. It is not limited to criminal convictions. Tabak had no criminal history. The judge concluded that the possession of strangulation pornography was reprehensible and later sentenced on the basis of sexually motivated murder but excluded that material from the consideration of the jury during the prosecution case.

http://thejusticegap.com/2011/10/vincent-tabak-and-the-law-on-bad-character/

[PaultheRed]

Vincent Tabak will stay on the sex offenders' register for 10 years, said ... also discovered 145 indecent images of children stored on the laptop.


Vincent Tabak admits possessing indecent images of children
Joanna Yeates’s killer pleads guilty to four charges at Bristol crown court over images found on his laptop so now he has not only killing Joanna but also to having these images  so that is 5 things he has now admitted too

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/02/vincent-tabak-admits-possessing-indecent-images-of-children

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I'll come back to your post Paul... just wanted to say something before I forget... I'm on the peasant shuttle meeting sis.. when u first came to this forum it was not only to see what I could find out about Dr Vincent Tabak.. but something a homicide detective had said on a game chat... he referred to the Joanna Yeates Case as A Cold Case.. anyone she'd any light ???

[mrswah]

Oh yes, in my opinion it was champagne that the police would not tell us was in the black bag.

Why would the police have wanted to keep that secret?

[Leonora]

Why would the police have wanted to keep that secret?

Are you trying to get me to post something I shouldn't? The police didn't want to spoil the wholesome image we had of a landscape architect who didn't drink anything stronger than cider nor eat anything more exotic than cheesy chips and finest mozzarella, tomato and basil pesto pizza.

[PaultheRed]

I'll come back to your post Paul... just wanted to say something before I forget... I'm on the peasant shuttle meeting sis.. when u first came to this forum it was not only to see what I could find out about Dr Vincent Tabak.. but something a homicide detective had said on a game chat... he referred to the Joanna Yeates Case as A Cold Case.. anyone she'd any light ???

I guess you are talking about the The murder of Glenis Carruthers who died in 1974 Nine ?

[PaultheRed]

A second witness has told police they heard screams from the direction of Joanna Yeates’s flat on the night she went missing.The cries were reported to officers while Miss Yeates was still a missing person, just a few days after she ­disappeared on December 17.It is believed the witness was walking down Miss Yeates’s road at the time.A partygoer at a flat across the road from the 25-year-old’s home had already told detectives she heard loud screams – but put it down to festive high jinks.Both witnesses are believed to have heard the screams around 9pm, less than 15 minutes after Miss Yeates is thought to have returned to her home on ­Canynge Road in Bristol’s affluent Clifton area.
Detectives believe the scream could have been Miss Yeates being attacked on her doorstep, which would help them to narrow down times on their inquiries.

If she was attacked on her door step  that could lead to the fact she never made it into the flat hence why VT's DNA wasn't in there as he was never in there like I pointed out earlier today.....

[mrswah]

Are you trying to get me to post something I shouldn't? The police didn't want to spoil the wholesome image we had of a landscape architect who didn't drink anything stronger than cider nor eat anything more exotic than cheesy chips and finest mozzarella, tomato and basil pesto pizza.

I read somewhere that Jo and Greg had celebrated, or were about to celebrate their second anniversary together.  Also, they were going to have a party the following week. Buying champagne does not seem very odd to me-----could even have been a Christmas special offer.

[mrswah]

If she was attacked on her door step  that could lead to the fact she never made it into the flat hence why VT's DNA wasn't in there as he was never in there like I pointed out earlier today.....

If anyone had attacked Jo on her doorstep, it is likely that CJ would have heard, come down to find out what was going on, and contacted the police.  He was in that Friday night, and didn't own a TV, so is more likely to have heard if someone was being attacked in the grounds of the property.  He was a diligent landlord, and also involved in neighbourhood watch, remember.

[John]

The fact that the CSI team failed to identify any DNA profile associated with Tabak within Joanna's flat is neither here nor there. My own feeling is that it was simply a poor investigation, bad luck or both.

Even if VT had carried out a sterile cleaning of the flat, I don't think there is any evidence of this, there would have been some evidence of his presence left behind.

By the way, was there any evidence of a struggle in the flat ever recorded?

[jixy]

I agree but I can also see a clear reaosn he lied about being in the flat and that is where Joanna died. he was hoping for a manslaughter charge and the scenario he gave was far more plausible if he said it all happened there

[PaultheRed]

Are you trying to get me to post something I shouldn't? The police didn't want to spoil the wholesome image we had of a landscape architect who didn't drink anything stronger than cider nor eat anything more exotic than cheesy chips and finest mozzarella, tomato and basil pesto pizza.

Do you understand the term "Show respect to the Dead "  Leonora ??? 

If so maybe you should try employing some there is nothing in any reports , stories or links that suggest that Joanna had anything less than a wholesome image unlike that of VT who has admitted to using Prostitutes, Hookers (USA term) and viewing Pornographic Images

[PaultheRed]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344957/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Similarities-unsolved-murder-Glenis-Carruthers-1974.html

[mrswah]

Do you understand the term "Show respect to the Dead "  Leonora ??? 

If so maybe you should try employing some there is nothing in any reports , stories or links that suggest that Joanna had anything less than a wholesome image unlike that of VT who has admitted to using Prostitutes, Hookers (USA term) and viewing Pornographic Images

Drinking champagne at Christmas gives someone an "unwholesome image"???  I really don't understand!  Most people drink champagne at Christmas, don't they?????   Even I do----it is normal.