Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

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If Tanja Morson is Bilingual ... English and German

And Dr Vincent Tabak is Trilingual.. English German and Dutch....which langauage did they converse in??

Not only that did they text ... email or anything else in German ???

If there were things they wanted to keep private, they could have conversed in German....

Where there any German correspondence between Dr Vincent Tabak and Tanja Morson??

Just a thought




Edit:.... which brings me to another thought.... When at the 6 hour interview in Holland, did at any time Tanja or his sister converse with him in any other language than English?????.. I had not really thought of this before because I assume Tanja would need to be in the loop and I assumed she just spoke english...But I have discovered she's bilingual... (maybe I forgot about it??)...

I'm sure Dr Vincent Tabak sister also speaks German..... So What accutally was said in that room with 3 German speaking people??????  (If it was only an interview with a witness and NOT a SUSPECT!!)

I bet the Detective didn't translate any of that information!!!

[Leonora]

I was just writing something about the sexually motivated attack that Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have done..

It made me think.... The whole premise of the prosecution was that Dr Vincent Tabak was looking for sexual gratification...

They used the porn and the prostitutes after the case had finished to highlight to the public, just what type of deviant he was.....

So.... Just for the moment, lets think about that... if he had employed prostitutes for his gratification and played the sex games that he did, then his experience in such matter must be top notch....

Which makes their sexual gratification theory fall flat on it's face....

I am sorry to disappoint you, but Mr. Justice Richard Field questioned whether paying for the services of escort girls on two occasions made him a “sexual sophisticant”, and ruled the evidence too prejudicial for the jury to hear.

It was never suggested by the Prosecution that VT employed prostitutes on any occasions except when he was away from home. Presumably (like the well known English film actor who some 20 years ago was convicted of disorderly behaviour in his car in Los Angeles for having sex with a prostitute, even though he had a very lovely long-term girlfriend at home in the UK), VT normally enjoyed a sexual relationship with his girlfriend that was mutually gratifying when he was at home. This is nevertheless an extremely private matter, and I am astonished that the more serious news media showed such bad taste as to publish such intrusive details at all.

They used silly phrases like his "secret life", as if there were anything devious about that. But, obviously, no one normally tells their friends and relations that they e.g. watch porn or e.g. how often they have sex with their spouse. Everyone has a "secret life", just as everyone has bacon & egg or muesli for breakfast.

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Ms Farmery only spoke to confirm the images displayed as the jury was shown dozens of internet pages said to have been viewed by Tabak.

I found this a little interesting...

So her film was of the pages?????  Not of the HISTORY!!

That almost makes me laugh.... Please let me see the film that Lyndsey Farmery should the Jury..
I especially want to see how she got to 'DOODSLAG"!!!!!

Because I do not believe that it was what Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have looked at.... Did she go to the 'DUTCH WIKI'?????

Did the JURY see this DUTCH PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Lickley described Tabak's online activity as "hourly, perhaps constant viewing".

Now we know this is complete rubbish... we have worked the timelines out, if it was hourly then there would have been thousands of Timelines , instead of the 566


On a more serious note... If she showed the jury the pages he apparently viewed, how did she do that???

These pages she is showing the jury are not the 'INTERNET HISTORY'... did she back up these images with the actual internet history and not pages of what he was supposed to have viewed????

This is concerning... Did she 'Screenshot' these supposed pages????  That would be quite a bit more visual than a list of internet history...


Can anyone confirm that this is what she did???????? OMG... the more I think about it the more I believe it is quite possible.... So how is this evidence??????

That is in NO WAY PROOF, that Dr Vincent Tabak did these searches!!!! 

So Lyndsey Love, You're not bilingual... You internet history film show doesn't prove Jack donkey doo!!!

Are people seriously going to believe that this is supposed to be a fair trial????  They could have shown anything and contributed it to Dr Vincent Tabak....


That is why i believe we get the 'sexual conduct' as a search... (IMO) someone made a complete mess there...  'sexual conduct is a legal term, and NOT something Dr Vincent Tabak would have searched for!!!


Edit:.... Infact show me the film picture of that search... because it will come up with sexual misconduct... so what did the film image look like for that search?????????

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/vincent-tabaks-internet-use-analysed-2372832.html

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Jury shown photographs of the inside of Joanna Yeates' flat. They show her boots she wore the night she was killed and purse on the table

Now... I thought that the PURSE was supposed to be in the RUCKSACK?????

I went through her rucksack, that was packed full and sitting on the table, and found her glasses, purse and keys.

 http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/joanna-yeates-8217-boyfriend-greg-speaks-agony/story-14143998-detail/story.html#yFDbyJM1hAClWzLH.99

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On Jan 2 #VincentTabak and girlfriend returned to flat to collect items. They showed ID and were allowed to visit.

Why had they not been allowed into there own home... The police made it impossible for them to live at their own address.. their flat was not the murder scene... But the Police would have had full access to their flat when they were not there because they had the keys from the landlord...

That is really weird!!!!!

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Joanna Yeates murder trial: [ censored word ] says police let Tabak remove items from his flat on 2 January

Let him????   Not surprised they moved out... the police made it impossible for them to stay.... And when it comes to Dr Vincent Tabak saying at work that he was finding it all upsetting ,you can see why... police constantly around the building, who obviously didn't want them around!!!

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Martin Evans‏
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Judge tells jurors to concentrate on bruises rather than abrasions because the bruises were caused while #JoYeates was still alive.
3:05 AM - 26 Oct 2011

So how many injuries did she sustain????? because it cannot be 43... where the abrasions that Broom Handle?????

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Martin Evans‏
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Court hear that #VincentTabak's girlfriend detected nothing unusual in his demeanour when he picked her up hours after killing #JoYeates
2:59 AM - 21 Oct 2011

Did Tanja Morson make a statement????????    why wasn't she in court!!!!

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Jerry Lawton‏
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On missing #joyeates pizza - Tabak said he took it from her flat to hide evidence but binned it and didn't eat it
10:12 AM - 20 Oct 2011

How would he know that was Evidence?????  Especially as he had apparently gone round the flat turning things off... not forgetting the coat stand is still at the crime scene that he was supposed to have touched!!

How would he KNOW she had just bought it.... if so why NOT take the CIDER!!!!

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DNA mouth swabs were taken. As was #VincentTabak's car from flat on Aberdeen Road. #JoannaYeates

Why take his DNA again if they had already taken a sample from him in HOLLAND??

Did they take a sample in Holland??

This is from the trial ..

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Was just looking at twitter and thought I'd post some tweets from the trial....

Dr Harriet Tolputt‏
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Ms Lennen describes how she took blood stained swabs from #joannayeates' chest. #VincentTabak

That surprised me...'Blood Stained swabs????'

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Judge Mr Justice Field: "I think there was a sexual element to this killing" #JoYeates #VincentTabak

Now do you not think he should KNOW!! You influence the jury... der... (IMO)

 (I think in our vast universe that the probability of life no matter how small is a possibility... But I don't KNOW!!)...

Martin Evans‏
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Judge is taking jury through #VincentTabak's defence statement reminding them of certain facts he left out.

What facts he left out???

Jane Onyanga-Omara‏
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Judge reading out #vincenttabak's statement of what happened on the night of 17 December 2010.
2:49 AM - 26 Oct 2011

Anyone got a copy or know what was in this statement????? Is this normal practice for the Judge to read out a defendants statement???

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#Tabak defence: "the independent evidence is in favour of 9:35, but cannot exclude 8:45", on what time #VincentTabak entered Jo's flat.
6:07 AM - 25 Oct 2011

Now this is where I have a problem.... The Prosecution have Dr Vincent Tabak in his flat for an hour before he went to Asda.. The Defence themselves say he was in his flat till 9:29pm... So why cannot he exclude 8:45pm as a time for Dr Vincent Tabak entering the flat???

Had Joanna Yeates actually entered her flat by 8:45pm??

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#VincentTabak's account of how he got into her flat that night is supported by the evidence, Mr Clegg says.
6:06 AM - 25 Oct 2011

This is because of NO forced entry... what happened to him being in his flat??  I'm still not seeing Joanna Yeates letting a complete stranger into her home on a night she was frightened to be left on her own!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/vincent-tabaks-internet-use-analysed-2372832.html

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I alway love it when I find statements that the Defence made about their client ..

Clegg said Tabak's behaviour showed he was a very calculating person trying to wriggle out of his responsibility.

Now.. this is apparently on his opening speech...  OMG.... OMG again...

What is he actually telling the Jury here??  If his plea is guilty to Manslaughter then how is he trying to 'Wriggle Out Of His Responsibility'???

why is he painting his client as CALCULATING"???  Shouldn't that be a conclusion that the jury come to after hearing the evidence not from the DEFENCE!!!



The conduct of the defence is appauling (IMO)... How is this fair??



https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/19/vincent-tabak-joanna-yeates-court

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https://audioboom.com/posts/605622-dean-armstrong-lawyer-for-vincent-tabak-on-impact-of-social-media-in-high-profile-court-cases-the-world-at-one-bbc-radio-4

If this guy represented Dr Vincent Tabak in the Murder trial of Joanna Yeates and their defence showed their utter distain for their client.... Then why did he represent him in the Child Porn charges?????

Something NOT right (IMO)...

Dean Armstrong QC had argued that his client could not receive a fair trial due to his notoriety and the portrayal of him during the two-part ITV drama The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies. But the judge ruled: “I take the view that it will be possible for Mr Tabak to have a fair trial.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/02/vincent-tabak-admits-possessing-indecent-images-of-children

[mrswah]

At the Joanna Yeates trial, William Clegg QC represented VT.  Dean Armstrong QC is from the same chambers, and represented VT at the "indecent images" trial.

[Leonora]

At the Joanna Yeates trial, William Clegg QC represented VT.  Dean Armstrong QC is from the same chambers, and represented VT at the "indecent images" trial.

Dean Armstrong had also made a brief appearance on the eleventh day of the trial of Vincent Tabak for murder. His only reported role was to read out to the court the only statement from the only defence witness not to appear in person, namely Geoffrey Hardyman, the elderly retired schoolteacher living at 44 Canynge Road who heard nothing but confirmed that Joanna Yeates and her boyfriend were a pleasant, cat-loving couple.

A statement read out by a barrister does not carry the same weight as a personal testimony, since the witness cannot be cross-examined, and the barrister, not being under oath, can omit sentences or paragraphs that do not suit him/her without the jury being any the wiser. Many statements from prosecution witnesses were read out by junior barrister Nicholas Rowland QC in the course of the presentation of the prosecution's case at the murder trial.

None of the newspaper reports of the trial of Vincent Tabak for possessing images of child abuse report any testimony from any witness that images of child abuse had been found on the defendant's computer.

[John]

Dean Armstrong had also made a brief appearance on the eleventh day of the trial of Vincent Tabak for murder. His only reported role was to read out to the court the only statement from the only defence witness not to appear in person, namely Geoffrey Hardyman, the elderly retired schoolteacher living at 44 Canynge Road who heard nothing but confirmed that Joanna Yeates and her boyfriend were a pleasant, cat-loving couple.

A statement read out by a barrister does not carry the same weight as a personal testimony, since the witness cannot be cross-examined, and the barrister, not being under oath, can omit sentences or paragraphs that do not suit him/her without the jury being any the wiser. Many statements from prosecution witnesses were read out by junior barrister Nicholas Rowland QC in the course of the presentation of the prosecution's case at the murder trial.

None of the newspaper reports of the trial of Vincent Tabak for possessing images of child abuse report any testimony from any witness that images of child abuse had been found on the defendant's computer.

Statements are merely a pretrial guide, it is testimony that counts.