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Offline Angelo222

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #300 on: September 20, 2015, 02:20:25 AM »
Did I mis-hear Jeremy on Newsnight when he said ultimately it was up to him to decide on policy?  If the Far Left does not now contol Labour who the hell does?  The moderates??!

Labour has effectively found itself in a political wilderness with few friends.  The Party is already in turmoil over bombing Syria with half ts MP's about to rebel.  If Labour is to survive as a Party I don't believe Corbyn's has a hope in hell of surviving a year as leader.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Lyall

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #301 on: September 20, 2015, 03:34:55 AM »
Labour has effectively found itself in a political wilderness with few friends.  The Party is already in turmoil over bombing Syria with half ts MP's about to rebel.  If Labour is to survive as a Party I don't believe Corbyn's has a hope in hell of surviving a year as leader.

The party has always had few friends... except when it's being led by a Tory.

Yet it always survives the attempts to destroy it ?{)(**

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #302 on: September 20, 2015, 10:39:39 AM »
The party has always had few friends... except when it's being led by a Tory.

Yet it always survives the attempts to destroy it ?{)(**
Aww, come on - the party has some new friends now though doesn't it?  Hezbollah and Hamas, to name but two.  I expect ISIS were quite pleased with the result too...  8(0(*

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #303 on: September 20, 2015, 10:43:28 AM »
...and yes, as leader of the party Corbyn will be the decision maker, another simple fact...

You don't like Corbyn, big deal, and tough, it doesn't really matter, if you prefer a fascist one party dictatorship state, that's your prerogative but last time I looked, the UK was ruled under a democratic system so ...that's all basically
You do write the most absurd and offensive statements.  If anyone supports one party dictatorship states you need look no further than your hero Corbyn and the list of leaders he admires.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #304 on: September 20, 2015, 11:05:40 AM »
The party has always had few friends... except when it's being led by a Tory.

Yet it always survives the attempts to destroy it ?{)(**

If you read the newspapers Labour has committed electoral suicide. However, people voted for Corbyn and new members have joined since he won. This tells us that many people don't want the Labour Party to continue in the direction it has gone in recent years. 'Blairism' won votes but was it Labour? No. it was 'New Labour', which has now been resoundingly rejected by the majority.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #305 on: September 20, 2015, 11:05:48 AM »
Well now, I am getting really worried.  For God's sake, even I am beginning to feel sorry for him.  And you all know what your average Brit is like when it comes to defending the under dog.

I think we should all be saying, "Gung Ho, Feller, well met.  Let's have a One Party Communist State."  That should scare the shit out of anyone.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #306 on: September 20, 2015, 11:46:47 AM »
Well now, I am getting really worried.  For God's sake, even I am beginning to feel sorry for him.  And you all know what your average Brit is like when it comes to defending the under dog.

I think we should all be saying, "Gung Ho, Feller, well met.  Let's have a One Party Communist State."  That should scare the shit out of anyone.

Exactly. The attacks are out of proportion to the perceived dangers and Brits love an underdog. Younger Brits don't like bullying either.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #307 on: September 20, 2015, 12:42:36 PM »
Exactly. The attacks are out of proportion to the perceived dangers and Brits love an underdog. Younger Brits don't like bullying either.
Of course, that's why younger Brits embraced Ed Miliband, Nigel Farage, Nick Clegg and Nick Griffin, all "victims" of press "bullying" too and why each was such a resounding success at the ballot box.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #308 on: September 20, 2015, 12:44:46 PM »
If you read the newspapers Labour has committed electoral suicide. However, people voted for Corbyn and new members have joined since he won. This tells us that many people don't want the Labour Party to continue in the direction it has gone in recent years. 'Blairism' won votes but was it Labour? No. it was 'New Labour', which has now been resoundingly rejected by the majority.
How many members of the Labour party have recently left though?  I personally know at least half a dozen.

ETA: from the latest ORB research:

A survey of 2,000 people found that Mr Corbynís election as Labour leader has made one in five people who voted for his party at the May general election more likely to vote Conservative next time. Some 37 per cent of Labour voters say they are less likely to back the party at the next election
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #309 on: September 20, 2015, 12:48:34 PM »
Exactly. The attacks are out of proportion to the perceived dangers and Brits love an underdog. Younger Brits don't like bullying either.

So glad that we agree for once.

Personally, I don't know.  I am a Socialist at heart and I truly want everyone to have a fair crack of the whip.
Except for me.  I make my own good fortune, and I rely on no one but me.  I deny no one the right to do better than I have done, and do not begrudge anyone who has done better than I have done.  And nor do I personally expect to be entitled to anything that they have.

But I'll tell you what.  I have never worked my socks off for those who often do not even get out of bed before I have done a day's boring hard graft.
So perhaps I am a Capitalist after all.

Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #310 on: September 20, 2015, 06:03:12 PM »
By electing Corbyn, party members have ensured Labour is unelectable as heading any Government for the foreseeable future.  As in Scotland, the Labour Party is now a non entity in England too and for some that is much to cheer about.

A strong opposition to keep the ruling party in check is quite enough for now..I doubt Corbyn can be compared to Cameron in that he dreams of being PM and not much else

Do you really thnk Cooper, Kendall or Burnham winning would have been better? It was called the Labour Party and not Tory  for a reason but the guy is getting castigated for standing up to principles (and more)
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Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #311 on: September 20, 2015, 06:08:45 PM »
You do write the most absurd and offensive statements.  If anyone supports one party dictatorship states you need look no further than your hero Corbyn and the list of leaders he admires.

Do you have a cite showing the list of dictatorships that Jeremy Corbyn supports?

Including the rationale behind that "absurd" statement

As for offensive, well, what I find offensive is fabrication, spin, sensationalism and lies....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #312 on: September 20, 2015, 08:40:24 PM »
Do you have a cite showing the list of dictatorships that Jeremy Corbyn supports?

Including the rationale behind that "absurd" statement

As for offensive, well, what I find offensive is fabrication, spin, sensationalism and lies....
Don't take my word for it, read what one of his supporters has to say on the subject. https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-tatchell/im-backing-jeremy-corbyn-for-labour-leadership-despite-his-unsavoury-frien

Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #313 on: September 20, 2015, 08:46:19 PM »
Don't take my word for it, read what one of his supporters has to say on the subject. https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/peter-tatchell/im-backing-jeremy-corbyn-for-labour-leadership-despite-his-unsavoury-frien

great article supporting Corbyn but no list of dictatorships he supports....if not wanting to add fuel to fire but wanting negotiation is not your cup of tea, well that's ok, but check where it's lead in the past ...anythng which mnmises civilian deaths is always good In my books.

Cameron supports Saudi Arabia, what dyou think about that then...bit hypocritical? Perchance?
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #314 on: September 20, 2015, 09:01:03 PM »
great article supporting Corbyn but no list of dictatorships he supports....if not wanting to add fuel to fire but wanting negotiation is not your cup of tea, well that's ok, but check where it's lead in the past ...anythng which mnmises civilian deaths is always good In my books.

Cameron supports Saudi Arabia, what dyou think about that then...bit hypocritical? Perchance?
does Corbyn support Castro for one?  A simple yes / no will suffice.