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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #540 on: May 27, 2021, 11:16:09 AM »
Dav, he's got pics of a dead girl that may or may not be MM. There, I said it. Clearly there's no way to 'prove' a link to CB, but that's the focus of his attention. The plea for the phone caller to come forward would place him at the scene, rather than 'maybe in the vicinity'.
The fact that the photos exist mean that the person took them for later use, probably as insurance. But even the most paranoid, expert investigation force in western Europe with all of their resources still can't garner anything useful to pin the deed on CB. They would have analysed them every which way to next Wednesday, including checking exif, tampering, photoshop editing, etc. They would analyse every minute detail of the background of each. Yet still nowhere near charging CB. I'll also wager they've been back and to to the prosecutor.
Did he do it? Who knows. Who was he talking to that night? Why use his own phone? Why are SY hedging their bets and continuing the 'search'?
What I will say is, I've been in Germany for several weeks recently (trapped due to COVID). This story is not of interest to them, I can assure you of that.
1) who cares? 2) did you conduct an extensive survey of German opinion? 3) who cares?
I no longer read nor reply to posts made by those posters I perceive to be WUMS and TROLLS so if you think I'm ignoring you this may be the reason.  Best wishes.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #541 on: May 27, 2021, 12:23:39 PM »
Even a tenuous link would probably be sufficient for them to grill him. Yes, I know they'd be playing their hand, but I'm sure CB and his legal team can join the dots just as we have, so that reason for not arresting doesn't wash with me.
These photos cannot be definitive. They may be definitive in terms of an ID of MM, although I doubt that, but there's no way to put CB in the scene.
I'm no crime expert, or indeed expert in anything (using the Gladwell '10,000 hours' definition), but if there are photos and there's a suspect but no link, this must be unique when the circumstances are factored in.

At some point in this drawn out circus HCW will have to give it up. This link will only ever come from CB himself; that much is now clear, a year on from the initial proclamation.
It's the essence of Catch 22 as Heller described it - there's not enough evidence to arrest CB according to the prosecutor, so they can't interview him. But even if they interview him and show their hand, now that he is pretty certain that they don't have enough to charge him, he just has to sit there and say nothing. So HCW knows this is how it plays out, so he has to keep looking for this corroboration that he has failed to find in at least a year (potentially 3).

I was speaking to an Austrian friend a few weeks ago... He knew all about it

Offline The General

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #542 on: May 27, 2021, 01:09:48 PM »
1) who cares? 2) did you conduct an extensive survey of German opinion? 3) who cares?
1. Davel's Austrian friend.
2. Yes
3. Davel. Davel's Austrian friend.
4. Wibble.
5. Mississippi.
6. Michael Collins.
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Offline The General

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #543 on: May 27, 2021, 01:24:54 PM »
I was speaking to an Austrian friend a few weeks ago... He knew all about it
I think you may have quoted the wrong post in all the excitement.
But just to elaborate on the post you did quote, HCW had to go public last June, he had little choice. I'm sure it was a last resort because it's a revealing of his hand in and of itself.
His evidence is apparently screaming at him, the grown ups have probably intimated that it's compelling, but just eek out some corroboration.
I doubt he would have envisaged his public appeal for information would yield nothing (otherwise there would have been action by now). Couple this with the less than outright backing from SY and it's all a bit embarrassing.
It was always a shit or bust call....ID the caller and it's Christmas, get nothing of substance and it's bin bag for Hans.
His last vestige of hope is that the prosecutors roll the dice with what they have and hope CB sings like Gladys Knight - and I would buy tickets to watch that go down.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #544 on: May 27, 2021, 01:29:49 PM »
1. Davel's Austrian friend.
2. Yes
3. Davel. Davel's Austrian friend.
4. Wibble.
5. Mississippi.
6. Michael Collins.
Point 2:  no you didn’t.  The rest is just bollix.
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Offline Carana

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #545 on: May 27, 2021, 01:43:22 PM »
Dav, he's got pics of a dead girl that may or may not be MM. There, I said it. Clearly there's no way to 'prove' a link to CB, but that's the focus of his attention. The plea for the phone caller to come forward would place him at the scene, rather than 'maybe in the vicinity'.
The fact that the photos exist mean that the person took them for later use, probably as insurance. But even the most paranoid, expert investigation force in western Europe with all of their resources still can't garner anything useful to pin the deed on CB. They would have analysed them every which way to next Wednesday, including checking exif, tampering, photoshop editing, etc. They would analyse every minute detail of the background of each. Yet still nowhere near charging CB. I'll also wager they've been back and to to the prosecutor.
Did he do it? Who knows. Who was he talking to that night? Why use his own phone? Why are SY hedging their bets and continuing the 'search'?
What I will say is, I've been in Germany for several weeks recently (trapped due to COVID). This story is not of interest to them, I can assure you of that.

I find it plausible that there may be some kind of photographic evidence, but no one (outside of the investigation) knows whether that is the case or not. Nor whether any images found may have a direct or even an indirect link, either to her or to him.

We don't know either whether the person behind the phone number that called him that evening has been identified, whether it was an innocent call or not, nor whether he was actually in possession of the receiving phone that evening.

Despite his past and the circumstantial evidence, it's also possible that he wasn't involved after all.

I wonder who's paying for his defense lawyer?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #546 on: May 27, 2021, 02:41:58 PM »
I think you may have quoted the wrong post in all the excitement.
But just to elaborate on the post you did quote, HCW had to go public last June, he had little choice. I'm sure it was a last resort because it's a revealing of his hand in and of itself.
His evidence is apparently screaming at him, the grown ups have probably intimated that it's compelling, but just eek out some corroboration.
I doubt he would have envisaged his public appeal for information would yield nothing (otherwise there would have been action by now). Couple this with the less than outright backing from SY and it's all a bit embarrassing.
It was always a shit or bust call....ID the caller and it's Christmas, get nothing of substance and it's bin bag for Hans.
His last vestige of hope is that the prosecutors roll the dice with what they have and hope CB sings like Gladys Knight - and I would buy tickets to watch that go down.

SY are working very very closely with the Germans so I don't seem that they are at odds. I think Wolters has more than you think and is far from a fool. Interestingly my friend lives in Graz... I recall someone being questioned there

Offline The General

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #547 on: May 27, 2021, 03:19:31 PM »
I find it plausible that there may be some kind of photographic evidence, but no one (outside of the investigation) knows whether that is the case or not. Nor whether any images found may have a direct or even an indirect link, either to her or to him.

We don't know either whether the person behind the phone number that called him that evening has been identified, whether it was an innocent call or not, nor whether he was actually in possession of the receiving phone that evening.

Despite his past and the circumstantial evidence, it's also possible that he wasn't involved after all.

I wonder who's paying for his defense lawyer?
We do, unless the caller has come forward this week. HCW hasn't retracted his appeal, so we're all still frantically searching for the mystery caller.

Who's paying his legal fees? Nobody. It will be pro bono, quid pro quo, in nomine iustitia, quia fama
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Offline jassi

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #548 on: May 27, 2021, 04:15:29 PM »
We do, unless the caller has come forward this week. HCW hasn't retracted his appeal, so we're all still frantically searching for the mystery caller.

Who's paying his legal fees? Nobody. It will be pro bono, quid pro quo, in nomine iustitia, quia fama


Might be crowd funded by subscribers to the Dark Web.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #549 on: May 27, 2021, 06:06:56 PM »

Might be crowd funded by subscribers to the Dark Web.

LOL

Which reminds me of crowd-funding for someone else (who happened to eventually retain a rather large sum of money from book sales, a "documentary" and various media appearances).

Offline barrier

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #550 on: May 27, 2021, 06:16:20 PM »
1. Davel's Austrian friend.
2. Yes
3. Davel. Davel's Austrian friend.
4. Wibble.
5. Mississippi.
6. Michael Collins.

I doubt these are.
’ Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney, Peter Davy, Dan’l Whiddon, Harry Hawk, old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all,”


E unum pluribus


Offline jassi

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #551 on: May 27, 2021, 07:18:12 PM »
LOL

Which reminds me of crowd-funding for someone else (who happened to eventually retain a rather large sum of money from book sales, a "documentary" and various media appearances).

The crowd funding was obviously successful then.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #552 on: May 28, 2021, 12:41:09 PM »
The crowd funding was obviously successful then.


I think they are successful when people believe in - what they are donating money too.
sorry if offended but the mccs bring the worst out in me...Oh and apologies to Vs if there are spelling mistakes

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #553 on: May 28, 2021, 01:14:41 PM »

I think they are successful when people believe in - what they are donating money too.

Yes... The McCanns have raised millions for the search for Maddie

Offline jassi

Re: Does Wolters have photographic evidence?
« Reply #554 on: May 28, 2021, 01:18:58 PM »
Yes... The McCanns have raised millions for the search for Maddie

Nowt to show for it though
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future