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Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to discovering the truth about Madeleine McCann?

Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parents holiday apartment located in the sleepy Portuguese town of Luz on the 3rd May 2007.  Despite two investigations by the Portuguese and the English police costing many £ millions and several teams of private investigators having been engaged by the McCanns, no sign of the youngster has ever been found.

So what now, are we any closer to discovering the truth about Madeleine McCann?

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ferryman

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 04:47:50 PM »
We don't know, because we don't know what information is in possession of the second enquiry.

But we do know, beyond all doubt, that that postulated (exclusively on the Portuguese side!) up to the point of Septemmber 2007 has been comprehensively discounted.

That's the only certainty. 

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 04:55:24 PM »
We don't know, because we don't know what information is in possession of the second enquiry.

But we do know, beyond all doubt, that that postulated (exclusively on the Portuguese side!) up to the point of Septemmber 2007 has been comprehensively discounted.

That's the only certainty.

From where I'm sitting I can't see any scenario being discounted based on what we already know.

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 05:00:44 PM »
I think only a confession is going to resolve this, and not a deathbed one with a single witness.
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Alfie

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 05:05:00 PM »
From where I'm sitting I can't see any scenario being discounted based on what we already know.
In my opinion we can discount parental involvement based largely on the fact that despite 10 years of trying to make one work there is not one single plausible theory of their involvement, and any attempts at such a theory fail because they always involve a long series of implausible events.   I know this post will provoke a stamping of indignant feet but please stop to really think about it before giving the usual knee jerk response. 

Offline faithlilly

Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 06:44:57 PM »
In my opinion we can discount parental involvement based largely on the fact that despite 10 years of trying to make one work there is not one single plausible theory of their involvement, and any attempts at such a theory fail because they always involve a long series of implausible events.   I know this post will provoke a stamping of indignant feet but please stop to really think about it before giving the usual knee jerk response.

If we gauge the implausibility of a theory by the number of improbable events which make it up then an abduction scenario a--la-McCann is even less probable.
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Alfie

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 06:51:10 PM »
If we gauge the implausibility of a theory by the number of improbable events which make it up then an abduction scenario a--la-McCann is even less probable.
Abduction is by far the most simple, uncomplicated explanation, full stop.

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 06:55:04 PM »
Abduction is by far the most simple, uncomplicated explanation, full stop.

No it isn't.  Abduction requires the involvement of a third party and the evidence gathered so far precludes it.  Far more simple is the theory that Maddie got out on her own and got lost.  The problem with this though is that it puts the parents squarely back in the sights.
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Alfie

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 07:03:38 PM »
No it isn't.  Abduction requires the involvement of a third party and the evidence gathered so far precludes it.  Far more simple is the theory that Maddie got out on her own and got lost.  The problem with this though is that it puts the parents squarely back in the sights.
What nonsense.  What evidence gathered to date PRECLUDES abduction?

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 07:29:34 PM »
Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to discovering the truth about Madeleine McCann?

Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parents holiday apartment located in the sleepy Portuguese town of Luz on the 3rd May 2007.  Despite two investigations by the Portuguese and the English police costing many £ millions and several teams of private investigators having been engaged by the McCanns, no sign of the youngster has ever been found.

So what now, are we any closer to discovering the truth about Madeleine McCann?

Actually no, we are no closer to realising the truth about what really happened to Madeleine but we are a lot wiser as to much of the goings-on post disappearance.
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ferryman

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2016, 07:29:54 PM »
No it isn't.  Abduction requires the involvement of a third party and the evidence gathered so far precludes it.  Far more simple is the theory that Maddie got out on her own and got lost.  The problem with this though is that it puts the parents squarely back in the sights.

The shelved enquiry precluded 'woke and wandered'.

Why do we constantly want to re-invent the wheel?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 07:46:07 PM »
Abduction is by far the most simple, uncomplicated explanation, full stop.
it sounds simple but you have ignored all the complication of knowing why it was Madeleine that has been abducted in the first place.
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stephen25000

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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 07:50:30 PM »
The shelved enquiry precluded 'woke and wandered'.

Why do we constantly want to re-invent the wheel?


...and that is what you do every time you type the word abduction. 8)-)))

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 07:54:13 PM »
What nonsense.  What evidence gathered to date PRECLUDES abduction?
The contradictions in the witness statements.  If there was an outsider responsible there would be a lot more openness and clarity in the witness statements.  You might question whether this is actual evidence but I tend to think it is.
Like did Jez and Gerry see Jane?
What time did the Paynes arrive?
Did Kate ask for her twins to be drug tested?

Just for examples of recently discussed questions.
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Re: Nearly 10 years on, are we any closer to the truth about Madeleine McCann?
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 07:58:28 PM »
The contradictions in the witness statements.  If there was an outsider responsible there would be a lot more openness and clarity in the witness statements.  You might question whether this is actual evidence but I tend to think it is.
Like did Jez and Gerry see Jane?
What time did the Paynes arrive?
Did Kate ask for her twins to be drug tested?

Just for examples of recently discussed questions.

Or is it just blame avoidance?
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