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Offline Chris_Halkides

Re: Solid evidence versus the usual
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2024, 02:28:22 AM »
I believe the concert story has the same source as the judge’s directions nonsense. Neither has there ever been a smidgen of evidence for.
I am still waiting for evidence of an agreement between the prosecution and defense concerning DNA evidence.  I have never heard of such a thing in any other trial.

Offline Parky41

Re: Solid evidence versus the usual
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2024, 03:28:49 PM »
I am still waiting for evidence of an agreement between the prosecution and defense concerning DNA evidence.  I have never heard of such a thing in any other trial.

A trial runs in sequence Chris. Funding I understand is limited. Which explains why the aim is to get what they want first and foremost, before the limit is reached, funding runs out. No one can expect anything else, it's not their money being used.

But let's apply no limit to the funds. The logical application would have been to acquire testimony, day by day in sequence. Lay it out exactly as had taken place. Because that is what the case was put together with. In doing so, and, 'if' everything was able to be acquired, it would mean certain things were not missed, such as that agreement.

In the meantime it is a fishing expedition. Messy to boot. But how does one source that agreement? You would have to know which day, what it was in line with, where it came in respect of any evidence heard from a witness. The person being asked, would find it pretty difficult to source something of a recording, labelled agreement? I'm not entirely sure that is how it works? SM is a good example of this.

IB, that messy application, carefully manipulated? Where it tells you that LM and his mother learnt of an agreement, she then prattles on about it making no sense. The application of 'if they had all of that DNA evidence, surely they would have used it?' Where you do similar here, ludicrous notion inference, never heard of, agreeing not to use DNA evidence. But, if that DNA Chris is not evidence of a crime, only of existence, it changes meaning entirely.

We can revisit this, once every minute of every day of that trial is put out publicly.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Solid evidence versus the usual
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2024, 10:56:47 PM »
It's possible the photographic evidence of the parka will eventually emerge amongst the deluge of transcripts still to be uploaded. It's early days. You say that the Prosecution and the press would have been all over the aforementioned photographic evidence due to how incriminating it would've been, but, the press never reported on this very complex 42-day trial every single day; and, to compound the press's problems, different reporters and journalists would have been assigned to the trial regularly, inevitably resulting in reports and articles that were not consistent or accurate (and, of course, some journalists are better than others -- so I suspect a few of them were out of their depth with this trial). It's definitely possible the photograph, as valuable as it was to the Prosecution, wasn't reported on. As for the Prosecution gobbling up such an extremely damning piece of evidence, maybe they did -- but maybe the Jury (or some of them) didn't register just how significant it was. Of course, perhaps they did, and it played an important role in securing that guilty verdict.

Don't forget, Faithlilly, there allegedly was also cctv footage of LM wearing the parka pre-murder at St David's High school shown in court. That still might show up in the transcripts, too (maybe a big deal was not made out of this piece of evidence either, for the same reasons as I highlighted with the photo).

I kind of like you MA. You have a sweet naivety rarely found in adults.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: that sinking feeling
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2024, 11:37:33 PM »
It had been thought by some that Luke found Jodi's body without Mia's help, but the trial transcripts holed this assertion below the waterline.

It's been a while since I read the search trio's testimony, but I distinctly remember that all 3 of them were unambiguous in court about Luke not walking some distance past the V in the wall with Mia as he had claimed; rather, all 3 said he went straight to the V with the dog. Interestingly, in IB, SL indicated that SK & JANJ in their statements said LM walked past the V with Mia and then the dog alerted, but I don't recall reading that in their testimony or DF saying anything about them saying in their statements that LM walked past it and then the dog reacting and alerting; I think DF tried to imply that Luke probably did as he was always in front of the others as they walked down the RDP west, but I don't think any of the others did actually ever say that in their statements. Was SL lying or being misleading? DF also tried to argue that the trio indicated in their statements that the dog reacted at the V in the wall (paws on the wall, jumping up and down and sniffing the air), but they denied this and said the dog was just being a dog and sniffing the foilage at the V, and that LM had guided the dog there (without ever walking past the V). DF also argued that the trio also said in their statements that LM was showing emotion and was in 'a bit if a panic/state', but all 3 said that they may have said that initially but this wasn't actually the case and that their initial recall was not accurate as they were all affected by trauma and shock. Maybe someone can elaborate or explain better, as my recollection is foggy.

Anyway, I think it's absurd to suggest that the trio knew [Name removed] or SK (or anyone else in their circle of friends) had killed Jodi and were out to fit LM up for it.



Offline Mr Apples

Re: Solid evidence versus the usual
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2024, 11:45:43 PM »
I kind of like you MA. You have a sweet naivety rarely found in adults.

Lol!

I know it's unlikely re the photo and cctv footage, but not impossible. As I said, you just never know.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Solid evidence versus the usual
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2024, 12:28:37 AM »
Lol!

I know it's unlikely re the photo and cctv footage, but not impossible. As I said, you just never know.

Unlikely. It’s not impossible that I’ll win the lottery on Friday but the odds suggest I’ll still be poor on Saturday. The odds against the existence of the photo and cctv footage having any veracity are similar I’d wager.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?