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Offline Chris_Halkides

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2023, 07:06:24 PM »
If I were a lawyer with a client whom I was convinced was factually innocent, I would not be comfortable if I were to see Ms. Brown as a member of the jury.  She mocked defense attorneys and paid defense witnesses, while ignoring the fact that the prosecution's witnesses are paid.  Yet she made excuses for the police when investigations are not done in a professional manner.  Moreover, it was not just as though she said something dismissive or derogatory one time; her whole presentation was peppered with such sentiments, and I found two more in the comments section below the video.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2023, 08:05:45 PM »
If you'd looked further than Wiki: MA in Criminal Justice (2007) plus decades of actual case research and profiling alongside assisting various official agencies. I don't know enough about her but agree with her comment about SL using her "Dr" title rather deceptively.

You are right, I didnít look much further than Wikipedia. I prefer to listen to professionals such as John Scott QC who actually knows about Scottish law and the case.

Dr Lean has a PhD. Please explain why you think that sheís using the Ďdoctorí title deceptively?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?

Offline Rusty

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2023, 12:50:03 AM »
Pat has uploaded her latest update after reading the cult book. I'm sure she will now become the target of more hate mail.

Offline Myster

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2023, 04:50:02 AM »
Pat has uploaded her latest update after reading the cult book. I'm sure she will now become the target of more hate mail.
Here she is... hard going like the book.  If you weren't confused then, you will be now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plUqM5g-wRg
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2023, 11:46:33 AM »
Here she is... hard going like the book.  If you weren't confused then, you will be now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plUqM5g-wRg

Dear oh dear!
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?

Offline Bullseye

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2023, 12:51:24 PM »
Pat has uploaded her latest update after reading the cult book. I'm sure she will now become the target of more hate mail.

I thought it was fair. Couple of points she got wrong.
It is one sided but itís written by the defence so thatís expected.
Be great if Sandra could share some of the defence papers with her to hear her view on them.

Offline Rusty

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2023, 01:33:00 PM »

Be great if Sandra could share some of the defence papers with her to hear her view on them.

No chance of that happening. If you have not figured it out already, then let me remind you. Lean won't be sharing anything with anyone, if there is a chance it would compromise her narrative and expose her fraud.

Offline Bullseye

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2023, 03:11:39 PM »
No chance of that happening. If you have not figured it out already, then let me remind you. Lean won't be sharing anything with anyone, if there is a chance it would compromise her narrative and expose her fraud.

Yeah Iím not sure she would share it either but going by the other people that interviewed her and Scott they have seen bits and Bobs. If Sandra truly believes the evidence she has speaks for itself then she should have no problem sharing the information. I suppose it depends on her thoughts on Pat and her work.
Be a great show if both Prof Wilson and Pat got to review all the stuff Sandra had and see where they both stand after. One thinks he should not have even been arrested and the other thinks he is most probably guilty, going by the information in the public. Ok I know thatís never going to happen but got to admit be interesting viewing.

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Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2023, 05:45:56 PM »
Yeah Iím not sure she would share it either but going by the other people that interviewed her and Scott they have seen bits and Bobs. If Sandra truly believes the evidence she has speaks for itself then she should have no problem sharing the information. I suppose it depends on her thoughts on Pat and her work.
Be a great show if both Prof Wilson and Pat got to review all the stuff Sandra had and see where they both stand after. One thinks he should not have even been arrested and the other thinks he is most probably guilty, going by the information in the public. Ok I know thatís never going to happen but got to admit be interesting viewing.

Wouldn't it just !!

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2023, 05:50:44 PM »
Yeah Iím not sure she would share it either but going by the other people that interviewed her and Scott they have seen bits and Bobs. If Sandra truly believes the evidence she has speaks for itself then she should have no problem sharing the information. I suppose it depends on her thoughts on Pat and her work.
Be a great show if both Prof Wilson and Pat got to review all the stuff Sandra had and see where they both stand after. One thinks he should not have even been arrested and the other thinks he is most probably guilty, going by the information in the public. Ok I know thatís never going to happen but got to admit be interesting viewing.

Or perhaps Dr Lean is being absolutely honest and legally canít supply the information requested? Itís interesting though that if the information is available to the public then no one has produced one statement in the last 20 years that refutes anything that Dr Lean has said.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?

Offline Bullseye

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2023, 06:12:49 PM »
Or perhaps Dr Lean is being absolutely honest and legally canít supply the information requested? Itís interesting though that if the information is available to the public then no one has produced one statement in the last 20 years that refutes anything that Dr Lean has said.

Iím assuming the 2 police detectives from the documentary seen all the information else how could they make the documentary? Maybe she canít release it to the public but can to certain parties? I have no idea, just be interesting to get other professional opinions on the evidence available.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2023, 06:41:13 PM »
Iím assuming the 2 police detectives from the documentary seen all the information else how could they make the documentary? Maybe she canít release it to the public but can to certain parties? I have no idea, just be interesting to get other professional opinions on the evidence available.

I think perhaps it is only certain parties that the information can be presented too but Iím only assuming.

As to other professionals opinions Iím interested in all opinions as long as they are informed opinions.

Letís take one of Brownís assumptions, that Jodiís mother wouldnít lie for her eldest daughterís boyfriend or two cousins and that it wasnít like it was her son that was being blamed. That, however, is exactly what could have happened and itís foolish to dismiss in those terrible circumstances that she wouldnít lie for her son. Donít get me wrong Iím not claiming that this is what happened but that it could have.

Are you aware that Pat Brownís book on the Madeleine McCann case was pulled by Amazon for being defamatory? For such a Ďdishonestí book itís interesting that Dr Leanís book is still very much on sale.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?

Offline Chris_Halkides

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2023, 05:06:10 AM »
I am watching Pat Brown's review of Innocents Betrayed.  So far it is biased nonsense.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Pat Brown criminal profiler video on Lukeís case
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2023, 08:03:59 AM »
I am watching Pat Brown's review of Innocents Betrayed.  So far it is biased nonsense.
It always is when someone has made their mind up about something first and then makes a programme to promulgate their viewpoint.  In fact I would say that such programmes (ie those without any balance or without at least making some serious attempt to test the other sideís case) are almost completely worthless.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?