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Online Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15285 on: November 18, 2023, 06:34:46 PM »
Preventive detention in German criminal law is a measure regulated by the
German Criminal Code which permits the state to keep dangerous criminal
offenders in – possibly lifelong – governmental custody beyond actual imprisonment in order to protect the public from them.
https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5235/219174412802604216.pdf

Thanks. I can't see him being too much danger to the public when he's 70. Maybe a long, lonely difficult stay inside a cramped prison cell will somehow rehabilitate him.
Free Martin Brueckner

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« Reply #15286 on: November 18, 2023, 06:37:09 PM »
This sounds about right for someone like Brueckner who has already been convicted of Child Sexual Abuse and Rape of elderly women.

He only got 7 years for the rape. If that sentence is anything to go by then 14yrs for the further 2 rapes & couple of years extra thrown in for dropping his trousers in front of an off duty cop & such.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #15287 on: November 18, 2023, 07:16:39 PM »

Twenty one years for a further Three Rapes, if not more for repeated offences.  And five years for repeated Child Sexual Abuse will take him to nearly Eighty Years old.  And I wouldn't let him loose even then.  But then they don't actually have to.

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« Reply #15288 on: November 18, 2023, 08:13:51 PM »

I wouldn't want to live in your jurisdiction. I've seen convicted murderers sentenced to less.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #15289 on: November 23, 2023, 07:41:30 AM »

Is anything happening, anywhere?

Offline Myster

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« Reply #15290 on: November 23, 2023, 09:00:49 AM »
Is anything happening, anywhere?
Nothing until February 2024, it seems.  Might as well go hibernate for winter and find something to read... I've heard Shute is pretty good!

Brueckner appears to reveal his darkest secrets after supping a skinful of Wolters Pilsener in Madame Eck's Bar.  "In Lager Veritas".  Maybe if they plied him with a year's supply to be consumed within a week he might confess and this sad, sorry case would finally be brought to a close.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #15291 on: November 23, 2023, 10:39:58 AM »
Nothing until February 2024, it seems.  Might as well go hibernate for winter and find something to read... I've heard Shute is pretty good!

Brueckner appears to reveal his darkest secrets after supping a skinful of Wolters Pilsener in Madame Eck's Bar.  "In Lager Veritas".  Maybe if they plied him with a year's supply to be consumed within a week he might confess and this sad, sorry case would finally be brought to a close.

In The Wet is my favourite Shute.  I wonder if that is on line somewhere.

As for Brueckner,  I am wondering if he will even offer a Plea.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #15292 on: November 23, 2023, 11:29:52 AM »
In The Wet is my favourite Shute.  I wonder if that is on line somewhere.

As for Brueckner,  I am wondering if he will even offer a Plea.

I guess much will depend on the strength of the evidence in each case. Some may well be weaker than others and I'm sure the defence will do their best to get acquittals wherever possible.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Myster

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« Reply #15293 on: November 23, 2023, 12:02:00 PM »
In The Wet is my favourite Shute.  I wonder if that is on line somewhere.

As for Brueckner,  I am wondering if he will even offer a Plea.
Probably easiest to read in hardback or paperback versions, second-hand from eBay France or new from some other online retailer.  Or your nearest bookshop in deepest Brittany.

Otherwise "In The Wet" e-book available here... https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20140305

The Epub download is perhaps the better quality version... just tried it in calibre, a free book reader which I've used for years...

https://calibre-ebook.com/

I also listened (twice over) to the BBC Radio play of "Requiem for a Wren" from your blog and quite enjoyed it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvp3NcLLoE&t=1862s&ab_channel=ChestertonRadio
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #15294 on: November 23, 2023, 12:11:40 PM »
Probably easiest to read in hardback or paperback versions, second-hand from eBay France or new from some other online retailer.  Or your nearest bookshop in deepest Brittany.

Otherwise "In The Wet" e-book available here... https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20140305

The Epub download is perhaps the better quality version... just tried it in calibre, a free book reader which I've used for years...

https://calibre-ebook.com/

I also listened (twice over) to the BBC Radio play of "Requiem for a Wren" from your blog and quite enjoyed it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvp3NcLLoE&t=1862s&ab_channel=ChestertonRadio

I've already got all of Shute's books and all very battered now.  But not many of them were turned into films, so thanks for The Links.

Offline kizzy

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« Reply #15295 on: November 26, 2023, 01:57:50 PM »
For those interested.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-key-witness-who-31527399


 17:09, 25 Nov 2023

One of the key witnesses in the Madeleine McCann case is being investigated for false evidence over damning claims about key suspect Christian Brückner.

Convicted paedophile and rapist Brückner is suspected by German authorities to have abducted and killed three-year-old Madeleine, who disappeared while holidaying in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz. Now the probe into Brückner has taken a dramatic turn.

His lawyer Friedrich Fülscher has filed charges, prompting the German investigators to examine whether Helge Büsching gave "unsworn false testimony". The McCann case saw a major lead in 2020 when Brückner was identified as a suspect before being officially named in 2022, with detectives earlier this year seen investigating a site near the Algarve where the German national - currently serving prison time for rape - is known to have spent time.

Büsching is said to have claimed that Brückner confessed to him about his involvement in Madeleine's disappearance, and has since been a cornerstone of the case. He had initially told authorities about video tapes he allegedly stole from Brückner, showing a range of chilling and sickening crimes. These tapes, said to be hidden in a caravan, have never been found.

‌Then in a startling twist, Helge B.'s statement changed in January 2023, where he then claimed the tapes were left in a rural property he once occupied. Now Brückner's lawyer Friedrich Fülscher has challenged Helge Büsching's credibility, citing the inconsistencies in his statements.

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #15296 on: November 26, 2023, 02:13:53 PM »
He is not a credible witness. HB claimed CB said 'She did not scream'. How that fact has been distorted and manipulated by the authorities and media is quite incredible. Desperation springs to mind. It was reported and is a fact that nobody heard screaming the night Madeleine disappeared!
« Last Edit: November 26, 2023, 02:16:52 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline kizzy

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« Reply #15297 on: November 26, 2023, 02:46:50 PM »
He is not a credible witness. HB claimed CB said 'She did not scream'. How that fact has been distorted and manipulated by the authorities and media is quite incredible. Desperation springs to mind. It was reported and is a fact that nobody heard screaming the night Madeleine disappeared!

Good point.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #15298 on: November 26, 2023, 03:13:37 PM »

Why would Madeleine have screamed?  And Yes, the comment was distorted.

Offline Alf

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« Reply #15299 on: November 26, 2023, 06:52:29 PM »
He is not a credible witness. HB claimed CB said 'She did not scream'. How that fact has been distorted and manipulated by the authorities and media is quite incredible. Desperation springs to mind. It was reported and is a fact that nobody heard screaming the night Madeleine disappeared!
I don’t get your point. Are you saying you know for a fact CB never uttered those words to HB?