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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2021, 02:10:13 PM »
For the benefit  of readers here, this is the usual rant from a unionist who is really really  worried about the rise of the vote for independence.
None of the above rant bears any semblance to the truth.


Nice to see you addressing your millions of followers there Erngarth, Must be great to be you, having all that power and using it wisely.   (&^&
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2021, 02:21:47 PM »
UK Covid deaths: Why the 100,000 toll is so bad https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55757790 if you want to know why our death rate is so high.  As I said, a complex issue.  Just blaming the government wonít do and is a quite dangerous position to adopt IMO as it overlooks other important contributing factors.


I AM NOT A CONSPIRITORY THEORIST- However, A few things should be discussed and indeed investigated.

It has been suggested (I don't have evidence, yet, sorry) that the NHS Scotland was marking as' Covid Death' for anyone who died with flu like conditions. Many were never actually tested and some tested and covid blamed although it was not as a direct result of the covid virus. I believe that bumped up figures in stats.

The virus is real and CAN KILL some people, however the majority have survived which means It is containable, and the full lockdowns may not have been neccessary.

"The truth is that MI posts utter rubbish.....That is only YOUR truth.

.ranting about spewing hatred for the English and the spouting lies and all the "whataboutery" about soldiers.   hahahaha really? trying to get brownie points from your many millions of followers?
Nicola's broadcasts each day have been informative, honest, reassuring and non political.

Nicola and honest in the same sentence ... really?  lol

 We didn't need any help from Prime Minister Johnstone with vaccine roll out. We are well ahead of all the targets for the various cohort groups"

OOps wee SNPEEE lies snuck in there for effect eh?

Such hatred from you is evidence of you and your ilk of being intolerant of others. how quaint.

xxx for your millions of followers! ^*&&

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2021, 02:24:48 PM »

I AM NOT A CONSPIRITORY THEORIST- However, A few things should be discussed and indeed investigated.

It has been suggested (I don't have evidence, yet, sorry) that the NHS Scotland was marking as' Covid Death' for anyone who died with flu like conditions. Many were never actually tested and some tested and covid blamed although it was not as a direct result of the covid virus. I believe that bumped up figures in stats.

The virus is real and CAN KILL some people, however the majority have survived which means It is containable, and the full lockdowns may not have been neccessary.

"The truth is that MI posts utter rubbish.....That is only YOUR truth.

.ranting about spewing hatred for the English and the spouting lies and all the "whataboutery" about soldiers.   hahahaha really? trying to get brownie points from your many millions of followers?
Nicola's broadcasts each day have been informative, honest, reassuring and non political.

Nicola and honest in the same sentence ... really?  lol

 We didn't need any help from Prime Minister Johnstone with vaccine roll out. We are well ahead of all the targets for the various cohort groups"

OOps wee SNPEEE lies snuck in there for effect eh?

Such hatred from you is evidence of you and your ilk of being intolerant of others. how quaint.

xxx for your millions of followers! ^*&&
Erm...are you sure it was my post you meant to respond to?  I know all us supporters look alike to you but really...
Mare's eat oat's and doe's eat oat's and little lamb's eat ivy.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2021, 02:47:11 PM »
Erm...are you sure it was my post you meant to respond to?  I know all us supporters look alike to you but really...


um... well,  did you type this?

"Figures show there were 50.5 deaths per million in Scotland in the week to 15 November, compared to 40.6 in England"


and  this...
"Does this mean that Nicola Sturgeon's government have handled the pandemic worse than Boris and his government?"


If so, I was replying with suggestion that the figures are not accurate... and Getting in there any accusation of being a conspiracy theorist.. ya don't mind do ya?  8(>((
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2021, 03:42:44 PM »

um... well,  did you type this?

"Figures show there were 50.5 deaths per million in Scotland in the week to 15 November, compared to 40.6 in England"


and  this...
"Does this mean that Nicola Sturgeon's government have handled the pandemic worse than Boris and his government?"


If so, I was replying with suggestion that the figures are not accurate... and Getting in there any accusation of being a conspiracy theorist.. ya don't mind do ya?  8(>((
What was the second half of your post all about though?  Not sure but it seemed like a rant directed at me, rather unfairly I thought.
Mare's eat oat's and doe's eat oat's and little lamb's eat ivy.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2021, 09:50:24 PM »
What was the second half of your post all about though?  Not sure but it seemed like a rant directed at me, rather unfairly I thought.

My apologies VS. That wasn't my intention at all.

 The last part was directed at Ergh. I was on the phone mid sentence and forgot to add a post script. :(  Ooops
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2021, 10:22:47 AM »
Itís not complex. The government failed to heed the advice of its experts and locked down too late three times while also letting households mix at Christmas even though they knew that a new variant of the virus which was more virulent was infecting people. Eat out to help out also helped push numbers up. It really is rather simple why we have the highest death rate in the world, we had a woefully incompetent government.

As you appear to disagree with my conclusions why do you think that we have so many dead ?

For the record I think Labourís record in opposition during the pandemic has also been woeful.

And as we are now engaging would it be too much to ask if we could try to debate without the insults?

- IMO, back in early March 2020 BoJo's attitude to Covid was hair-raising (e.g., saying on TV that he'd carry on shaking hands with everyone, and intimated that he'd already done so with Covid patients in a hospital (which wasn't true). A few weeks later, he could well have died from it. I totally agree that he should have listened (as opposed to just 'heard') what his experts were saying and been decisive. Perhaps even turned up to some of the COBRA meetings.

- Allowing some Xmas festivity (or other religious / festive events) was a hard decision for many governments, no doubt trying to juggle between political optics, economic fallout, behavioural psychology, and all the rest.

- I'm not sure where the idea that the UK had the highest death rate in the world comes from. At around this time last year - from memory - I'd found that it was indeed heading that way, but was below Belgium and Italy (and that's just in Europe).


Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: How Many More Have to Die?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2021, 03:44:34 PM »
So what is the truth?

Will this independent Scotland have it's own currency, nuclear deterrent & armed forces or will there need to be some sort of union with England, Wales & N.I?

A hard border is order of the day.. long way to Europe- not having permission to go via England-  air land or sea.. Hell of a journey. What will our pass ports lok like I wonder. Sturgeons face on the front cover?


Oh I am being called names and not a warning insight. a slanderous name at that as I am not a 'Unionist' I am a subject of the United a Kingdom. AND proud of that.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin