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Title: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: sadie on September 08, 2022, 06:50:07 PM
Rest in Peace

Queen Elizabeth II has died
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: sadie on September 08, 2022, 07:16:00 PM
I love this little true story about Her.

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1567894552744271872
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 09, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
It's an opinion which is held by many and which will affect how people see Charles III and his wife.

Henry VIII beheaded his wives when their marriage went sour, so Diana got away lightly really.

It was 25 years ago anyway, Camilla has been accepted by the family, the boys have got over it all, I was reading earlier how Harry said of Camilla 'she's not a wicked stepmother'.

I still don't even get what was so great about Diana in the first place?
The mass hysteria when she died was quite bizarre.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Lace on September 09, 2022, 11:14:13 AM
Rest in Peace

Queen Elizabeth 2nd has died


RIP
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Lace on September 09, 2022, 11:15:35 AM
I love this little true story about Her.

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/1567894552744271872

Brilliant  (&^&
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 09, 2022, 11:20:27 AM
King Charles the Third will be absolutely fine.  A continuation of a long loved Monarchy, The Queen of which was the best.  Charles is her son and that of Phillip, both of whom are something to be thankful for.

What the rest of you think is of no importance to me, or to anyone much else.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: faithlilly on September 09, 2022, 11:29:38 AM

Today is the first day of a ten-day period of official mourning for the Queen. At lunchtime MPs will begin tributes to the late monarch which will continue until 10PM, before resuming again all day on Saturday.

There will be no significant government announcements at any point and Parliament is unlikely to resume, for any significant period, until next month. Campaigning by all the major parties has been stopped. Meanwhile civil servants will be advised to wear black and an official ‘guide to national mourning’ will be issued by the government.

As inflation soars and thousands of small businesses risk going bust, democracy in the UK will effectively come grinding to a halt.

After a long summer in which the work of government all but ended, in order to allow the Conservative Party to talk to itself for seven weeks, we have now been thrown back into yet another period of stasis.

While the work of government will continue, our new Prime Minister, who is about to implement a series of policies with massive implications for the UK economy, will face little scrutiny.

Whatever your views of the Queen and the monarchy, this is hard to justify.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 09, 2022, 11:34:16 AM
Henry VIII beheaded his wives when their marriage went sour, so Diana got away lightly really.

It was 25 years ago anyway, Camilla has been accepted by the family, the boys have got over it all, I was reading earlier how Harry said of Camilla 'she's not a wicked stepmother'.

I still don't even get what was so great about Diana in the first place?
The mass hysteria when she died was quite bizarre.

I think it's about what people think it tells them about the character of the King.

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 09, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
I think it's about what people think it tells them about the character of the King.

Good luck with that one.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 11:56:00 AM
I think you should make your feelings known privately, although why anyone would care escapes me.
I think whoever tweets such ill-considered tweets should make their feelings known privately.  Ever heard of the saying "if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all?"  Yesterday certainly was not the day for such sentiment, nor today or the rest of this period of mourning IMO. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 11:59:30 AM
Today is the first day of a ten-day period of official mourning for the Queen. At lunchtime MPs will begin tributes to the late monarch which will continue until 10PM, before resuming again all day on Saturday.

There will be no significant government announcements at any point and Parliament is unlikely to resume, for any significant period, until next month. Campaigning by all the major parties has been stopped. Meanwhile civil servants will be advised to wear black and an official ‘guide to national mourning’ will be issued by the government.

As inflation soars and thousands of small businesses risk going bust, democracy in the UK will effectively come grinding to a halt.

After a long summer in which the work of government all but ended, in order to allow the Conservative Party to talk to itself for seven weeks, we have now been thrown back into yet another period of stasis.

While the work of government will continue, our new Prime Minister, who is about to implement a series of policies with massive implications for the UK economy, will face little scrutiny.

Whatever your views of the Queen and the monarchy, this is hard to justify.
What would you suggest happen instead?
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 09, 2022, 12:11:06 PM
Today is the first day of a ten-day period of official mourning for the Queen. At lunchtime MPs will begin tributes to the late monarch which will continue until 10PM, before resuming again all day on Saturday.

There will be no significant government announcements at any point and Parliament is unlikely to resume, for any significant period, until next month. Campaigning by all the major parties has been stopped. Meanwhile civil servants will be advised to wear black and an official ‘guide to national mourning’ will be issued by the government.

As inflation soars and thousands of small businesses risk going bust, democracy in the UK will effectively come grinding to a halt.

After a long summer in which the work of government all but ended, in order to allow the Conservative Party to talk to itself for seven weeks, we have now been thrown back into yet another period of stasis.

While the work of government will continue, our new Prime Minister, who is about to implement a series of policies with massive implications for the UK economy, will face little scrutiny.

Whatever your views of the Queen and the monarchy, this is hard to justify.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy and the Queen was it's head of state for over 70 years. The reaction to her death and the ascension of the next monarch to the throne has been planned for years, and I don't think anything would have changed those plans.

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 12:45:19 PM
Faithlilly almost makes it sound like the Conservatives engineered this situation to their advantage.  Making political capital out of this monumental and sad event for our country is just as disgraceful as tweeting horrible things about the Queen and her family at this time IMO
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Mr Gray on September 09, 2022, 01:28:17 PM
I have respect for the Queen but personally would like to see it end there now. Megan must be delighted her children will now prince and princess...great for marketing.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: faithlilly on September 09, 2022, 02:14:24 PM
I think it's about what people think it tells them about the character of the King.

Of course it tells them nothing. You can’t help who you love.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 03:15:45 PM
I see my comment about the tweet has been removed making some of the enusing comments somewhat baffling without the appropriate context.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 09, 2022, 04:22:24 PM
I have respect for the Queen but personally would like to see it end there now. Megan must be delighted her children will now prince and princess...great for marketing.

Will she or won't she?  It rather gives the lie to what she had to say to Oprah.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 09, 2022, 05:29:47 PM
Of course it tells them nothing. You can’t help who you love.

Do you think Charles' marriage to Diana was a love match?
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 09, 2022, 05:43:54 PM
Do you think Charles' marriage to Diana was a love match?

Do you think Harry's and Meghan's was?
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 05:49:15 PM
Do you think Charles' marriage to Diana was a love match?
Of course it wasn’t.  It was a marriage of convenience for him (who was still in love with Camilla, by now married herself), though Diana was obviously madly in love with him.   Does that make him unsuitable to be king?  I would say it was pretty par for the course.  Anyway that’s all in the past, he is seemingly with the right partner now and has 10-20 years or so to live out his destiny (all being well), so good luck to him.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 06:40:01 PM
And a beautiful and moving tribute to his mother in his first address to the nation will hopefully earn him some respect from his naysayers. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 09, 2022, 06:50:51 PM
Of course it wasn’t.  It was a marriage of convenience for him (who was still in love with Camilla, by now married herself), though Diana was obviously madly in love with him.   Does that make him unsuitable to be king?  I would say it was pretty par for the course.  Anyway that’s all in the past, he is seemingly with the right partner now and has 10-20 years or so to live out his destiny (all being well), so good luck to him.

Some people would like their King to be an honourable man. They would say leopards don't change their spots.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 06:55:49 PM
Some people would like their King to be an honourable man. They would say leopards don't change their spots.
And some people just like to be horribly judgemental and unforgiving.   I’m quite happy for Charles to be king, and it doesn’t matter even if I wasn’t.  He IS the king like it or not, so unless you plan to go the full Oliver Cromwell and mount a roundhead rebellion you’d best start learning to live with it.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 09, 2022, 07:07:30 PM
Some people would like their King to be an honourable man. They would say leopards don't change their spots.

This comment is a disgrace.  And no mention of Diana being dishonourable in the first instance.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 09, 2022, 07:42:19 PM
And some people just like to be horribly judgemental and unforgiving.   I’m quite happy for Charles to be king, and it doesn’t matter even if I wasn’t.  He IS the king like it or not, so unless you plan to go the full Oliver Cromwell and mount a roundhead rebellion you’d best start learning to live with it.

"Well I didn't vote for 'im"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 07:47:07 PM
It’s strange to think there won’t be another Queen as Head Of State for at least another 70 or 80 years.  Of course we will all be long dead by then and none of us will have made as much of a mark on the world or be as widely and fondly remembered as QEII. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 09, 2022, 10:31:00 PM
This comment is a disgrace.  And no mention of Diana being dishonourable in the first instance.

You are always quick to criticise even if the views expressed are widely held. In 2019 a  survey by BMG Research on behalf of The Independent found 46 per cent of Britons want the first in line to the throne to abdicate immediately to allow the Duke of Cambridge to take the throne.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-charles-heir-throne-abdicated-william-queen-dies-death-next-in-line-public-opinion-a8704316.html

Just because you prefer your own opinions there are other opinions which are not 'disgraceful' just because they're different than your own.

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 09, 2022, 11:32:31 PM
And a beautiful and moving tribute to his mother in his first address to the nation will hopefully earn him some respect from his naysayers.

I watched most of the coverage today & I too felt slightly moved by his speech. It also was nice to see the warm reception he recieved when he arrived at the palace. One lucky lady managed to plant one on his cheek.

https://youtu.be/Te7nc3mNQjg?t=385


Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 09, 2022, 11:35:48 PM
You are always quick to criticise even if the views expressed are widely held. In 2019 a  survey by BMG Research on behalf of The Independent found 46 per cent of Britons want the first in line to the throne to abdicate immediately to allow the Duke of Cambridge to take the throne.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-charles-heir-throne-abdicated-william-queen-dies-death-next-in-line-public-opinion-a8704316.html

Just because you prefer your own opinions there are other opinions which are not 'disgraceful' just because they're different than your own.
It was your insinuation that Charles is not an honourable man that I believe Eleanor took exception to.  Is now really the time to be making such nasty comments?
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 10, 2022, 06:59:22 AM
Although from experience, some women can send you potty, down the pan and round the bend.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 10, 2022, 07:19:14 AM
HRH's cutting description of Denys Lasdun's brutalist National Theatre - "A clever way of building a nuclear power station in the middle of London without anyone objecting."...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Theatre#/media/File:National_Theatre,_London.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Theatre#/media/File:National_Theatre,_London.jpg)

Other quotes... https://uk.news.yahoo.com/charles-king-own-words-180738884.html (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/charles-king-own-words-180738884.html)
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 10, 2022, 11:25:41 AM
Although from experience, some women can send you potty, down the pan and round the bend.

As can some men.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 10, 2022, 09:13:57 PM

I don't know about anyone else but I am feeling quite desolate and unable to fully process that this has happened.
I did believe that The Queen would go on for a while yet

However, I do expect King Charles the Third to do a fine and noble job, even if in his own way.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 10, 2022, 10:19:58 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I am feeling quite desolate and unable to fully process that this has happened.
I did believe that The Queen would go on for a while yet

However, I do expect King Charles the Third to do a fine and noble job, even if in his own way.

I watched most of the coverage last couple of days as I've never seen a change of monarch in my lifetime.
I think/hope Charles will be a good king, he has been practicing all his life for the role, had a long time to learn from his mother, & I think with guidance from his sons he may try to modernise the monarchy a little.
He is up against it in some respects though with the Scots & Welsh wanting to breakaway, along with some members of the commonwealth. It all did seem slightly surreal watching the events as all I've ever known was her maj being at the helm.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 10, 2022, 10:57:55 PM
I don't know about anyone else but I am feeling quite desolate and unable to fully process that this has happened.
I did believe that The Queen would go on for a while yet

However, I do expect King Charles the Third to do a fine and noble job, even if in his own way.
It was always going to happen sooner or later but that doesn’t make it any less sad or hard to process.  I think once the funeral is over we can start to view this as a new beginning and try and embrace some sense of optimism about the future.  I take a little bit of comfort from news such as Ukraine having some success in regaining territory from the Russians, King Charles’ assured, reassuring  and heartfelt address to the nation, even the two princes and their wives appearing in public together sends a positive message of forgiveness and reconciliation.  One has to grasp these little glimmers of hope and positivity where one can at the moment, and try not to dwell too much on the negative, overwhelming though it can sometimes seem.  It’s a massively turbulent time for our nation - a new PM and a new Head of State in under a week, it’s alot to got one’s head around.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 10, 2022, 11:09:52 PM
Spare a thought for Charles though who is already far beyond retirement age and now has to start doing the job he’s been in training for nearly all his life.  Rather him than me.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: sadie on September 11, 2022, 11:48:52 PM
I have enjoyed watching all the background programs about Elizabeth.  She had a lovely childhood roaming the hills and lands of her parents estates in Scotland   Walking, pony riding and exploring where she wanted freely in the open air.  The country life: Wonderful.

I have admired her vivacity and wonderful sense of humour.   Her sense of Duty has been amazing.   No wonder such adoring crowds have turned out for her.   What is truly amazing is the way that the World has reacted to her death.   Everyone seems to have loved her

It has been good to see King Charles III and his Queen receive such a welcome.   He has made a very good start IMO.

And how his Mother Queen Elizabeth II  would have been pleased to see William and Kate side by side with Harry and Megan.  I hope that the family can build bridges.


I wasn't unduly interested before it all started but it has been fascinating seeing parts of Royal residences and Historical pagentry that I knew nothing about.  Scotland has done her part so well.   Am waiting to see the English part in its entirety.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 12, 2022, 10:14:59 AM
Elizabeth II was and always will be a hugely significant figure on the world stage. She had no political power, but worked tirelessly to build and maintain rewarding relationships with those who did. Any world leader who was invited to meet her admitted to being both honoured and nervous.

The ceremonies we're seeing demonstrate the UK's long history and the traditions which have developed over time. Somehow the UK has managed to acknowledge and embrace the past and incorporate it into the present. Some of the rituals are a little bizarre in the modern world, but they are comforting too.

I was also pleased to see in the archive footage how much she enjoyed her life when 'off duty'.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 10:20:16 AM
Someone said this recently (and it may have been someone I don't usually agree with like JRM or Bojo, but I think it is a good observation) and I paraphrase:
The monarch unites us, while the politicians divide us. 

More unity and less division would be good IMO!
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 12, 2022, 11:41:54 AM
Someone said this recently (and it may have been someone I don't usually agree with like JRM or Bojo, but I think it is a good observation) and I paraphrase:
The monarch unites us, while the politicians divide us. 

More unity and less division would be good IMO!

We're very lucky to have a monarchy which can be the focus for unity. Polititians can never provide that because their whole purpose is to further the interests of the members of their own parties. They are always aware of that, no matter how much they insist that they act in the national interest.

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 12:02:19 PM
We're very lucky to have a monarchy which can be the focus for unity. Polititians can never provide that because their whole purpose is to further the interests of the members of their own parties. They are always aware of that, no matter how much they insist that they act in the national interest.

Who needs a Republic when A President would only be in the job for their own ends, usually in the hope of becoming A Dictator.

You think France doesn't regret bumping off their Royal Family?  Take a look at some of their more recent Presidents.  What a shambles most of them were.  Although Macron seems to be doing okay.  But he will be gone soon.

Fortunately, Tony Blair will never be President of The EU which is what he was after.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 12:21:54 PM
We're very lucky to have a monarchy which can be the focus for unity. Polititians can never provide that because their whole purpose is to further the interests of the members of their own parties. They are always aware of that, no matter how much they insist that they act in the national interest.
Personally I think that's cynical nonsense.  Was the NHS set up to further the interests of Labour Party members?  Is support for  the Ukranians and capping energy prices done simply to further the interests of Tory Party members?   Of course all politicians will be mindful of their support base, but many if not most politicians go into politics because they believe they can improve the country they live in and the lives of those that live in it, not to get rich and not to fulfill some sinister agenda.  IMO. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 12:31:45 PM
Personally I think that's cynical nonsense.  Was the NHS set up to further the interests of Labour Party members?  Is support for  the Ukranians and capping energy prices done simply to further the interests of Tory Party members?   Of course all politicians will be mindful of their support base, but many if not most politicians go into politics because they believe they can improve the country they live in and the lives of those that live in it, not to get rich and not to fulfill some sinister agenda.  IMO.

Unfortunately, The Labour Party thought we would all be dead long before we actually are.  They provided for the wrong generation who had just survived A War on far too little to eat but with hearts of steel.

I haven't been to a Doctor in 25 years.  But no doubt The Queen got excellent medical advice, as well she should have done.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 12, 2022, 02:10:06 PM
Personally I think that's cynical nonsense.  Was the NHS set up to further the interests of Labour Party members?  Is support for  the Ukranians and capping energy prices done simply to further the interests of Tory Party members?   Of course all politicians will be mindful of their support base, but many if not most politicians go into politics because they believe they can improve the country they live in and the lives of those that live in it, not to get rich and not to fulfill some sinister agenda.  IMO.

It's not cynical, it's factual.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 02:12:08 PM
It's not cynical, it's factual.
It’s not factual, it’s your opinion. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 12, 2022, 06:49:59 PM
It’s not factual, it’s your opinion.

Well, I have no idea why people stand for Parliament, but I have seen what happens if 'they' decide it's time someone resigned. They resign.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Well, I have no idea why people stand for Parliament, but I have seen what happens if 'they' decide it's time someone resigned. They resign.
I have no idea what that has got to do with anything I have written on this thread thus far.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 08:24:04 PM

Is everyone in agreement that the death of The Queen is very sad?

Personally, I am gutted, but I don't expect everyone to feel as bad as I do.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 08:39:19 PM
Is everyone in agreement that the death of The Queen is very sad?

Personally, I am gutted, but I don't expect everyone to feel as bad as I do.

Yes, I recently lost a relative & her death seems somehow even more poignant.

Did you see her 4 children standing watch around her at Giles Cathedral just now?

It's fascinating seeing these centuries old traditions for the first time.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 08:40:42 PM
Is everyone in agreement that the death of The Queen is very sad?

Personally, I am gutted, but I don't expect everyone to feel as bad as I do.
I agree it is very sad, but I’m not as sad as I will be when my mum or dad die, which is something I am absolutely dreading.  I have never lost a close relative and I just don’t know how I will cope with it.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 08:42:02 PM
I agree it is very sad, but I’m not as sad as I will be when my mum or dad die, which is something I am absolutely dreading.  I have never lost a close relative and I just don’t know how I will cope with it.

It's very painful at first, but as with any bereavement, time is a great healer.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 09:19:54 PM

Royals stand vigil over Queen's coffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nYTqQO1yFk


(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27974786.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Queen-Elizabeth-II-death.jpg)
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 09:43:42 PM
Royals stand vigil over Queen's coffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nYTqQO1yFk


(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article27974786.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Queen-Elizabeth-II-death.jpg)

Thanks for that.  I might not have seen it otherwise.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 12, 2022, 10:10:21 PM
Royals stand vigil over Queen's coffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nYTqQO1yFk


(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/artingngcle27974786.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Queen-Elizabeth-II-death.jpg)

That must have been very hard to do, along with walking behind the hearse. Princess Anne was the first female to take part in the 'vigil of the princes'.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 10:14:34 PM

I am sort of glad that she died in Scotland where she so obviously loved to be.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 10:22:16 PM
I am sort of glad that she died in Scotland where she so obviously loved to be.

It also meant the people of Scotland had a chance to pay their respects where they otherwise may not have.

She is staying there until 3pm tomorrow with people expected to be viewing through the night.

There is even a live stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyVFknZZucU
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 10:32:21 PM

A young man gave Andrew some verbal abuse during the procession today.

Thankfully other members of the crowd weren't having it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tnBD9iDgoPM
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 10:55:44 PM
I am sort of glad that she died in Scotland where she so obviously loved to be.
The outpouring of affection and respect for her from the Scottish and even from Nicola Sturgeon has been quite surprising to me and quite heart-warming. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 11:13:02 PM
A young man gave Andrew some verbal abuse during the procession today.

Thankfully other members of the crowd weren't having it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tnBD9iDgoPM

Awful and not even true.  Prince Andrew has my sympathy.  All he did was to stand by someone he thought was a friend and nothing else has ever been proved.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 12, 2022, 11:22:01 PM
The outpouring of affection and respect for her from the Scottish and even from Nicola Sturgeon has been quite surprising to me and quite heart-warming.

Well, she was half Scots by birth and her mother was a very strong lady.  So The Scots are honouring one of their own.  But it is lovely to see.

Gosh, I think I am beginning to feel a bit better.  This last few days have been awful.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 12, 2022, 11:43:14 PM
Awful and not even true.  Prince Andrew has my sympathy.  All he did was to stand by someone he thought was a friend and nothing else has ever been proved.
I don’t think he’s a very nice person and he may very well be “a sad old man” as the heckler shouted out but today, as he walked behind his mother’s coffin, was not the day for such disrespect (to the Queen and the other family members).  One thing that annoys me somewhat is those who insist on calling him a paedophile - he is not one of them, as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 12, 2022, 11:46:33 PM
Awful and not even true.  Prince Andrew has my sympathy.  All he did was to stand by someone he thought was a friend and nothing else has ever been proved.

If I'd have been there & he tried pulling that stunt near me I reckon I'd have shut him up a bit sooner.
Heckling at a time like that was appalling. I too felt for Andrew & the family.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 13, 2022, 12:13:28 AM

It's very easy to forget sometimes that although they are shape-shifting lizards, they are also a real family with real emotions.
They have been on the go since last week with barely a moments privacy to grieve.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 13, 2022, 12:35:13 AM
It's very easy to forget sometimes that although they are shape-shifting lizards, they are also a real family with real emotions.
They have been on the go since last week with barely a moments privacy to grieve.

This is the thing you see.  We forget that The Royal Family are real people who must feel hurt in the same way that we all do.

The Queen is dead.  Long live The King.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 13, 2022, 01:11:00 AM
In years gone by that heckler might have found his head on the end of a spike for behaving in such a disrespectful manner, at such a time, towards members of royalty.

Sometimes I feel there are certain ancient practices we should never have abolished.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 13, 2022, 02:51:28 AM

Honestly, I'm not often offended by anything & have frequently, jokingly, expressed opinions that any normal human being would find utterly abhorrent, but I think that young man's behaviour during the funeral procession was so overwhelmingly disgusting that I'm willing to be awake at 3am posting about it.
I sincerely hope the family don't have to witness any more of that kind of total disrespect & depravity during this weeks proceedings.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 13, 2022, 11:09:41 AM
Honestly, I'm not often offended by anything & have frequently, jokingly, expressed opinions that any normal human being would find utterly abhorrent, but I think that young man's behaviour during the funeral procession was so overwhelmingly disgusting that I'm willing to be awake at 3am posting about it.
I sincerely hope the family don't have to witness any more of that kind of total disrespect & depravity during this weeks proceedings.

Queen Elizabeth's children are human, and humans make mistakes. On the other hand they were born into a family which has constitutional obligations. It's their duty to fulfil those obligations and they have. Now is not the time, imo, to target them when they're doing that.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 13, 2022, 01:28:04 PM
Queen Elizabeth's children are human, and humans make mistakes. On the other hand they were born into a family which has constitutional obligations. It's their duty to fulfil those obligations and they have. Now is not the time, imo, to target them when they're doing that.
So why were you so defensive when I called out this forum for its nasty tweet about Charles literally less than 24 hours after his mother’s death?  It was uncalled for, and yet you seemed to agree with its sentiment.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 13, 2022, 01:42:15 PM
Honestly, I'm not often offended by anything & have frequently, jokingly, expressed opinions that any normal human being would find utterly abhorrent, but I think that young man's behaviour during the funeral procession was so overwhelmingly disgusting that I'm willing to be awake at 3am posting about it.
I sincerely hope the family don't have to witness any more of that kind of total disrespect & depravity during this weeks proceedings.

More to you than meets the ear then.  But I have long known that.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 13, 2022, 02:10:07 PM

Since we are discussing the death of The Queen, I don't understand the need for dissent on this Forum, unless you are a Republican.  So if you are then at least say so.

I won't have a problem with that.  But what I don't understand is why Sceptics and Supporters have managed to turn this into a punch up.  A noble old lady has died and by Noble I don't mean anything beyond who she was and how she behaved.

King Charles the Third has no choice. Or Prince William for that matter.  No Choice.  Suck that one up.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 13, 2022, 02:21:06 PM
So why were you so defensive when I called out this forum for its nasty tweet about Charles literally less than 24 hours after his mother’s death?  It was uncalled for, and yet you seemed to agree with its sentiment.

I don't feel that I have the right to dictate what those who own and/or run this forum do, and nor do you.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 13, 2022, 03:01:32 PM
I don't feel that I have the right to dictate what those who own and/or run this forum do, and nor do you.

Twaddle.  You have an opinion and delivered relatively pleasantly would never be sanctioned by John.

Is John a Royalist?  I don't know.  Are you, might be more to the point.  I don't actually care.  My devotion to The Royal Family is simply my own.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 13, 2022, 03:34:43 PM
I don't feel that I have the right to dictate what those who own and/or run this forum do, and nor do you.
I wasn't dictating anything I was expressing an opinion that such a tweet was an embarrassment and a disgrace, I thought you agreed in freedom of speech, obviously not!
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Erngath on September 14, 2022, 12:28:44 AM
I was six when she was crowned.
I only have vague recollections of seeing the coronation on television.
There was a firework display in a park nearby and  I do remember a cake with a little figurine of the queen. We also got a tin pencul box and a bar of chocolate at school.
I read in the past few days that some mail boxes here were later damaged because of the reference to Queen Elizabeth 11.
She was Elizabeth 1 to us.
I have every sympathy for her family and have a keen regard for her for the way she lived her life both privately and publically but have no sadness or sense of loss.
She lived a full and long life and died without the long lingering pain that some endure and in a place she loved and with family with her.
The outpouring of grief in the past few days has bewildered me.
I saw footage of an elderly lady in Ukraine whose house had been badly damaged . She was using a little dust pan and brush trying to clean up some of the debris in her home.
That was months ago and that image has stayed with me.

Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 14, 2022, 06:24:35 AM
I was six when she was crowned.
I only have vague recollections of seeing the coronation on television.
There was a firework display in a park nearby and  I do remember a cake with a little figurine of the queen. We also got a tin pencul box and a bar of chocolate at school.
I read in the past few days that some mail boxes here were later damaged because of the reference to Queen Elizabeth 11.
She was Elizabeth 1 to us.
I have every sympathy for her family and have a keen regard for her for the way she lived her life both privately and publically but have no sadness or sense of loss.
She lived a full and long life and died without the long lingering pain that some endure and in a place she loved and with family with her.
The outpouring of grief in the past few days has bewildered me.
I saw footage of an elderly lady in Ukraine whose house had been badly damaged . She was using a little dust pan and brush trying to clean up some of the debris in her home.
That was months ago and that image has stayed with me.

I don't feel any sense of grief or loss for her passing & you wouldn't find me queuing up in the driving rain for hours just to catch a fleeting glimpse of her funeral procession, but if you did see me there & the man next to me started hurling abuse at her kids, rest assured I'd be inclined to meet that level of disrespect with force. But then I'd probably do the same if that happened at anybodies funeral really.
I have found it interesting watching some of the ceremonies that are taking place though. It's pretty much a once in a lifetime event, a change of monarch, & has given me something unique to watch/listen to while I've been decorating the house this past week.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 14, 2022, 08:04:50 AM
Think I'm now suffering from mourning sickness overload, and I bet Mama's restless at being carted all over the place as Charlie is weary of his endless leaky pen signing sessions.  One thing's for sure though... florists have made a blooming good living out of her passing.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 14, 2022, 08:14:42 AM
Think I'm now suffering from mourning sickness overload, and I bet Mama's restless at being carted all over the place as Charlie is weary of his endless leaky pen signing sessions.  One thing's for sure though... florists have made a blooming good living out of her passing.
Yes, I sense a mounting backlash to the whole thing and I can’t help but roll my eyes and mutter in frustration every time I turn on the TV and radio and the first thing you hear is about the funeral and the royals, .  I can’t wait for it all to be over and for normal(ish) life to resume.  I am also concerned that the funeral will be used as an opportunity by some idiots to make a political protest or even worse.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 14, 2022, 12:37:45 PM
Our individual reactions to the events are not all the same, but they don't really matter. Our country has the most famous monarchy in the world, and it's relevance is not just national, it is world-wide. That's why we are seeing so much coverage of everything that's happening and we're seeing all the pageantry the UK does so well.

I'm learning too; who knew about those Scottish archers? I didn't.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 14, 2022, 12:59:57 PM
I don't feel any sense of grief or loss for her passing & you wouldn't find me queuing up in the driving rain for hours just to catch a fleeting glimpse of her funeral procession, but if you did see me there & the man next to me started hurling abuse at her kids, rest assured I'd be inclined to meet that level of disrespect with force. But then I'd probably do the same if that happened at anybodies funeral really.
I have found it interesting watching some of the ceremonies that are taking place though. It's pretty much a once in a lifetime event, a change of monarch, & has given me something unique to watch/listen to while I've been decorating the house this past week.

I'm of the same, but its time to move them on, we have had our longest serving monarch, what better way than to go out than on a high. As for the protestor, a procession behind a coffin is not the right platform but it must be recognised the right to protest, if at say Putins funeral it happened just imagine the west's condemnation if a protestor was dragged away.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 14, 2022, 01:35:08 PM
Our individual reactions to the events are not all the same, but they don't really matter. Our country has the most famous monarchy in the world, and it's relevance is not just national, it is world-wide. That's why we are seeing so much coverage of everything that's happening and we're seeing all the pageantry the UK does so well.

I'm learning too; who knew about those Scottish archers? I didn't.

Nor I on the Archers, the history and pageantry is something to behold, the like we'll never see again I'd venture, the modern world allows the plebs a glimpse.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 14, 2022, 01:41:34 PM

I remember, The King is Dead.  Long Live The Queen.  That sounded powerful and right to me.  But it was The Queen that I felt sorry for.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 14, 2022, 01:57:45 PM
I'm of the same, but its time to move them on, we have had our longest serving monarch, what better way than to go out than on a high. As for the protestor, a procession behind a coffin is not the right platform but it must be recognised the right to protest, if at say Putins funeral it happened just imagine the west's condemnation if a protestor was dragged away.
Who would you like to see as Head Of State instead?  Always curious to know who Republicans would prefer to see representing Great Britain on the world’s stage.  Me, I’d vote for Grayson Perry, but only dressed as Claire his female alter ego.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 14, 2022, 02:11:23 PM
Who would you like to see as Head Of State instead?  Always curious to know who Republicans would prefer to see representing Great Britain on the world’s stage.  Me, I’d vote for Grayson Perry, but only dressed as Claire his female alter ego.

Please don't do this.  It would be a horror story.  I mean, who is there?

The Crown Estates would then have to revert to the Deposed Monarch and The Royal Family could bog off to live in peaceful luxury.  Balmoral and Sandringham belong to them, as does The Duchy of Cornwall and Lancaster.  And  I very much doubt that they do this for a laugh.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 14, 2022, 02:26:52 PM
Who would you like to see as Head Of State instead?  Always curious to know who Republicans would prefer to see representing Great Britain on the world’s stage.  Me, I’d vote for Grayson Perry, but only dressed as Claire his female alter ego.

Elections could do this, at least get rid of that awful God save the King, replace it with Swords of a Thousand Men.

Look across the channel, is Macron any less of a leader cause he isn't royalty.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 14, 2022, 02:55:40 PM
Elections could do this, at least get rid of that awful God save the King, replace it with Swords of a Thousand Men.

Look across the channel, is Macron any less of a leader cause he isn't royalty.
Well I know he’s despised by a large percentage of French people, much the same as our monarchy is, but are you suggesting we have a President Boris, Blair or Clegg instead of a King?  Ummm, well Boris might be excited at the prospect but it’s a “no” from me thanks.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 14, 2022, 02:57:09 PM
Elections could do this, at least get rid of that awful God save the King, replace it with Swords of a Thousand Men.

Look across the channel, is Macron any less of a leader cause he isn't royalty.

In France it's four years.  Eight if you are lucky.

Have you had a look at some of The French Presidents over the last thirty years?
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 14, 2022, 03:20:05 PM
In any case the King or Queen aren’t leaders, they are Heads of State, subtle difference.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 14, 2022, 05:16:17 PM
Not so sure I'd be interested in joining that 2 mile queue of people just to file past her majesty's coffin anytime in the coming days. I mean, God bless the Queen, & all that but I reckon I can find something better to do with my time.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 14, 2022, 05:23:17 PM
Well I know he’s despised by a large percentage of French people, much the same as our monarchy is, but are you suggesting we have a President Boris, Blair or Clegg instead of a King?  Ummm, well Boris might be excited at the prospect but it’s a “no” from me thanks.

Hmmm, President Spam, yes, I like the sound of that.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 14, 2022, 06:16:29 PM
Hmmm, President Spam, yes, I like the sound of that.
I thought you'd elected yourself already...
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 14, 2022, 06:18:49 PM
 Walter Bagehot identified the monarchy in 1867 as the "dignified part" rather than the "efficient part" of government. That dignity was evident in everything the Queen said and did, and the country and most of it's people are saying goodbye to her with dignity and respect.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 14, 2022, 07:24:33 PM
My poor old parents are bereft having watched the funeral procession all afternoon.  I couldn’t bring myself to do likewise and busied myself with household chores and gardening but just now saw a three and a half minute version.  What a splendid parade, we Brits do put on a good show for our monarchs.  It made me realise I have never seen one in real life, not even trooping the colour.  Perhaps I should make the effort for Charles’ coronation, though I suspect it won’t be such a grand occasion as his mother’s.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 14, 2022, 08:11:36 PM
A short enjoyable discussion on the reasons for our constitutional monarchy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYcoq0s_MOQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYcoq0s_MOQ)
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 16, 2022, 08:23:21 AM
You are always quick to criticise even if the views expressed are widely held. In 2019 a  survey by BMG Research on behalf of The Independent found 46 per cent of Britons want the first in line to the throne to abdicate immediately to allow the Duke of Cambridge to take the throne.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-charles-heir-throne-abdicated-william-queen-dies-death-next-in-line-public-opinion-a8704316.html

Just because you prefer your own opinions there are other opinions which are not 'disgraceful' just because they're different than your own.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11205089/New-YouGov-poll-shows-63-cent-think-King-Charles-make-good-monarch-Britain.html
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 16, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11205089/New-YouGov-poll-shows-63-cent-think-King-Charles-make-good-monarch-Britain.html

This is clearly an issue that is going to be discussed going forward whether people think it should be or not.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 16, 2022, 01:42:29 PM
This is clearly an issue that is going to be discussed going forward whether people think it should be or not.
I see you have refused to acknowledge that people's opinion of Charles has changed somewhat since the opinion poll you relied on to make your point a few days ago. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 16, 2022, 05:02:18 PM
I see you have refused to acknowledge that people's opinion of Charles has changed somewhat since the opinion poll you relied on to make your point a few days ago.

It's so obvious why.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 16, 2022, 05:16:19 PM
It's so obvious why.
Obvious why you refused to acknowledge it?  Yes,  it certainly is.  What is less obvious is why you decided to back the forum owners up by insinuating  that Charles is not an honourable man who is deeply unpopular and unsuited to the role of king. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 16, 2022, 08:47:49 PM
Obvious why you refused to acknowledge it?  Yes,  it certainly is.  What is less obvious is why you decided to back the forum owners up by insinuating  that Charles is not an honourable man who is deeply unpopular and unsuited to the role of king.

These are extraordinary times and people have reacted in extraordinary ways, including our new king. Can he keep up the good work as time goes by? Only time will tell. Of course he doesn't need to be popular, he's the king. 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 16, 2022, 11:20:42 PM
These are extraordinary times and people have reacted in extraordinary ways, including our new king. Can he keep up the good work as time goes by? Only time will tell. Of course he doesn't need to be popular, he's the king.
Right, give him the benefit of the doubt.  Don’t publicly proclaim him unfit to be king and lacking in honour hours after his beloved mother’s death, that’s just insensitive, judgmental and nasty.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 17, 2022, 07:59:30 AM
Right, give him the benefit of the doubt.  Don’t publicly proclaim him unfit to be king and lacking in honour hours after his beloved mother’s death, that’s just insensitive, judgmental and nasty.

I didn't proclaim him unfit to be king, I gave my opinion as to why some people think that. A subtle difference you don't seem to have grasped.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 17, 2022, 08:14:52 AM
I didn't proclaim him unfit to be king, I gave my opinion as to why some people think that. A subtle difference you don't seem to have grasped.
I didn’t say you said it, I said you supported the tweet which did and implied Charles was not an honourable man.  I grasped it very well thank you.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: John on September 17, 2022, 08:32:25 AM
I never did understand why her majesty never handed over to him years ago. Was she also of the opinion he was unfit to rule as was Andrew and Edward given their less than honourable pasts.

In my opinion the crown should have gone to Princess Anne or Prince William.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Keating W on September 17, 2022, 08:47:21 AM
We pay tribute to HM Queen Elizabeth II's extraordinary life of dedication and duty to the nation and the world.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 17, 2022, 09:22:46 AM
I never did understand why her majesty never handed over to him years ago. Was she also of the opinion he was unfit to rule as was Andrew and Edward given their less than honourable pasts.

In my opinion the crown should have gone to Princess Anne or Prince William.
It's very simple John: QEII vowed to serve her country for the entire duration of her life whether it be long or short.  She wasn't a quitter and the job didn't come with a retirement plan factored into it.  Show some respect FGS.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: G-Unit on September 17, 2022, 09:33:46 AM
I didn’t say you said it, I said you supported the tweet which did and implied Charles was not an honourable man.  I grasped it very well thank you.

Understanding, ommenting and explaining doesn't mean supporting. A common mistake, I find.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 17, 2022, 10:09:57 AM
Understanding, ommenting and explaining doesn't mean supporting. A common mistake, I find.
Yeah right.  BTW I don't need you to explain tweets to me - the meaning and intent was quite obvious thanks.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 19, 2022, 07:31:05 AM

A Kingdom Says Goodbye

Jonathan Samuels takes a look back at a historic week that saw the nation come together for the death of the Queen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2N7wqmHwWw
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 19, 2022, 10:23:55 AM

Phew.  What a marathon it has been for us all, let alone for The King, poor soul.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Myster on September 19, 2022, 04:09:50 PM
Phew.  What a marathon it has been for us all, let alone for The King, poor soul.
The final stretch... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuENY9sKTxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuENY9sKTxQ)
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 19, 2022, 04:26:48 PM
Phew.  What a marathon it has been for us all, let alone for The King, poor soul.

On entry to Windsor chapel he looked as if he had had enough.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Eleanor on September 19, 2022, 04:28:56 PM
On entry to Windsor chapel he looked as if he had had enough.

His Mother has just died.  And not a second for him to grieve.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 19, 2022, 04:29:19 PM
I'm not a royalist by any stretch but the pomp cannot be matched imo, but we have witnessed it, imo never to be repeated, where now from here.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 19, 2022, 04:30:47 PM
His Mother has just died.  And not a second for him to grieve.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: barrier on September 19, 2022, 04:55:35 PM
So ended one of the most remarkable day/period's in history .
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on September 19, 2022, 05:27:44 PM
So ended one of the most remarkable day/period's in history .

The slow marching was getting a bit tedious towards the end though, to be fair.
I mean, God bless the Queen, & all that, but there's only so much monotonous pomp & pageantry I can take before I start to sympathise with republicans. Yep, if there's one thing Charles needs to bring into the 21st century then it's state funerals. Thirty minute service at the Crem then a knees up down the local in future me thinks.

 
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Venturi Swirl on September 19, 2022, 05:28:33 PM
Utterly impeccable send off but quite draining (and I spent the entire thing on the sofa, for those taking part I can’t even imagine the exhaustion and emotion they must be feeling, probably quite a lot of relief right now).
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Brietta on September 19, 2022, 05:32:40 PM
His Mother has just died.  And not a second for him to grieve.

The royal family are officially in mourning for another seven days.  I hope the king will manage to take advantage of some respite during that very brief period.
Title: Re: HM Queen Elizabeth II passes away at the age of 96.
Post by: Brietta on September 19, 2022, 05:41:30 PM
Utterly impeccable send off but quite draining (and I spent the entire thing on the sofa, for those taking part I can’t even imagine the exhaustion and emotion they must be feeling, probably quite a lot of relief right now).

Me too!
I was on the nerves as the cavalry horses got a bit restive at the pace during the march up the long drive at Windsor.

It's not over for the family yet though; they still have the very private ceremony of the queen's interment which I am sure they will attend.
I don't see the devoted Princess Royal missing out on that.