Gerry Mccann a freemason?

[Mr Gray]

From the proven facts in the McCann case..

6. The dogs Eddie and Keela, from the British police, have detected human blood and cadaver scent in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club.

7. The dogs Eddie and Keela, from the British police, have detected human blood and cadaver scent in the vehicle rented by the applicants Kate McCann and Gerald McCann after Madeleine's disappearance.


Complete and utter junk from the Portuguese judiciary

[Venturi Swirl]

II. RATIONALE

9. Matter of fact according to the appealed court

9. 1. Facts considered to be proved:

a) the arguidos are siblings;

b) the arguido AA [Joao Cipriano] has never held a regular job or residence, living inside a vehicle or at his siblings' house, surviving on occasional jobs that he performed on diverse locations;

c) the arguido AA expresses contempt for human life – a result of a poor social adjustment and affective coldness – and has anti-social/psychopathic tendencies with a difficulty to control his impulses, which leads him to be aggressive, trying to solve conflicts through said aggressiveness, feeling no remorse for the consequences of the actions that he thus performs, despising other people's rights, wishes or feelings;

d) through a ruling that has been validated in court, and given on 10.11.1993, arguido AA was condemned to a 4-year prison sentence over the practice, on 2.10.1992, of a crime of attempted homicide, (...). Said ruling includes that the arguido was convinced, by a third party that lived with one of the arguido's sisters (GG) to take the life of another person who had left him blind, in exchange for 20.000$00 and a motorbike (...);

e) the arguida BB [Leonor Cipriano] manifests socially deviant behaviour at the level of norms, values and responsibilities, emotional instability and difficulties in expressing frustration, while her socialisation was marked by immature, superficial and narcissistic interpersonal relationships, where characteristics of manipulation (to satisfy her own needs) and aggressiveness (of mainly sadistic tonality) are stand out, while in her personality the absence of empathy and the insensibility are salient, leading to the arguida's despise for other people's rights, needs and sentiments, directing her aggressiveness towards them, with a weak capacity to feel remorse. She possesses a borderline personality with anti-social/psychopathic, narcissistic and schizoid traits;

f) the arguida BB, who has six children from five relationships, has been showing some lack of interest in her elder children, throughout her life;

g) concerning her eldest daughter, EE, who presently lives with her father and grandmother in Olhao, she left her there at the age of 11 months, never cared for her again, and didn't ask about her, for 14 years;

h) her second child, FF, who lived with his paternal grandmother and presently lives with a paternal aunt, in Messines, was also left by her to the father, and she never cared for him again;

i) the fourth child, HH, who presently lives with his father in Porches, was left home alone by the arguido BB at the age of 7 months, buckled to his chair, which is how he was found by neighbours who perceived the situation;

j) at that time, arguida BB started living with II [Leandro Silva], a relationship that produced two children, [Name removed] and KK;

l) the third child that she bore was CC [Joana], who was born on 31.05.1996, a daughter of LL;

m) minor CC, in September 2004, was aged eight, being thin and measuring between 1,20 and 1,40 metres; (2)

n) minor CC was sometimes sad;

o) the arguida BB did not exercise any professional activity;

p) when the arguida was living with partner II, minor CC helped her mother with some home chores, as she sometimes helped to clean the house, took care of her younger siblings and went shopping;

q) before arguida BB moved in with her partner II, she wanted to stop having CC under her care, and left her, at the age of 5 months, with her father, LL – with whom she had no relationship since the beginning of the pregnancy – who ended up 'returning' her 2 days later, and later, she once more handed her over to the father, who didn't want to keep her;

r) in September 2003, arguida BB left CC under the care of a couple of persons with alcoholism problems and with a bed-ridden child that had an infecto-contagious illness, in a house with no conditions whatsoever, for 2 or 3 weeks;

s) on the first day of school for minor CC at the Primary School in Figueira, in the school year of 2003/2004, arguida BB didn't walk the minor to school, and CC arrived with a neighbour, whom she asked for help because she couldn't find the way;

t) on another occasion, the same neighbour took the minor to hospital, at a moment when she was visibly ill with a strong cough;”

So they weren’t both gainfully employed at the time?  OK.  So I guess it’s only right to call people without proper jobs, who are impoverished, backward and from dysfunctional families and with chaotic family lives bottom feeders then.  Thanks for the social sciences lesson.

[Venturi Swirl]

The court also considered proved that Joannas blood was found in the fridge...when there was no evidence to support this...never mind proof. They could have tested it fir dna but didn't bother.

Didn't they say in the proven facts in the McCann case the dog signalled cadaver odour.

It seems in Portugal they make the proof up as they go along.
It's better to look at the evidence rather than the proven facts

The fact that they established all these so called facts in court in about three days stinks to high heaven to me.  Who ever heard of a murder trial of two individuals being decided so quickly? 

[Venturi Swirl]

The court also considered proved that Joannas blood was found in the fridge...when there was no evidence to support this...never mind proof. They could have tested it fir dna but didn't bother.

Didn't they say in the proven facts in the McCann case the dog signalled cadaver odour.

It seems in Portugal they make the proof up as they go along.
It's better to look at the evidence rather than the proven facts

All those so-called proven facts quoted in the summary provided by Faithlilly are basically the prosecution’s opinion.  When and how were they challenged?  When the prosecutor called them psychopaths was the defence not able to question this or provide the defence’s own summary of “proven facts”?

[Eleanor]

The fact that they established all these so called facts in court in about three days stinks to high heaven to me.  Who ever heard of a murder trial of two individuals being decided so quickly?

A lot of the Defence Witnesses weren't even heard, according to what I read about it all.

[Eleanor]

Didn't one of The Judges disagree and thought they were innocent?

[faithlilly]

So they weren’t both gainfully employed at the time?  OK.  So I guess it’s only right to call people without proper jobs, who are impoverished, backward and from dysfunctional families and with chaotic family lives bottom feeders then.  Thanks for the social sciences lesson.

You may think that, I don’t agree.

I think it’s reasonable though to call a mother who murders her daughter a bottom feeder.

[faithlilly]

Didn't one of The Judges disagree and thought they were innocent?

One judge didn’t believe the case had been proven. The others however disagreed.

[Mr Gray]

One judge didn’t believe the case had been proven. The others however disagreed.

I prefer to look at the evidence..there isn't any apart from the confession beaten out of her...I'm not surprised you support police brutality...lol

[Eleanor]

One judge didn’t believe the case had been proven. The others however disagreed.

Thank you.

Doesn't Not Proven mean Innocent?

[Venturi Swirl]

You may think that, I don’t agree.

I think it’s reasonable though to call a mother who murders her daughter a bottom feeder.

Murderer is not usually a dictionary definition of the term in question. 

[Venturi Swirl]

One judge didn’t believe the case had been proven. The others however disagreed.

How on earth was the case proven?  There was literally no evidence at all!

[faithlilly]

Thank you.

Doesn't Not Proven mean Innocent?

No…that’s why it’s called the b........ verdict. You’re neither cleared or convicted.

[faithlilly]

How on earth was the case proven?  There was literally no evidence at all!

You mean apart from her partner in crime’s filmed confession?

[Mr Gray]

You mean apart from her partner in crime’s filmed confession?

Your ignorance is laughable..just off for a run now..preparing for my next marathon