Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction

[G-Unit]

At the time referred to in my post the child rapist and murderer Brady's crimes were unknown.  Brueckner's propensity to commit violent crimes against women and children is a matter of record even before Madeleine's abduction and consists only of that which he was caught doing.

"Suspicion" hardly comes into it as far as I can see.  The German prosecutor has evidence against Brueckner gathered over a period of years and the only suspicion I harbour about that is wonderment about those who are in denial and feel the need to publicly throw their hats into the ring alongside his.

I think it risible that a criminal known to associates as 'the climber' because of his skills is deemed by sceptics as having difficulty entering or exiting a a property with a ground floor window.

I think it risible that a criminal who made a living from burglary would have failed to notice people entering a property via a patio door the design of which ensured it could only be locked from the inside.

One of the main attributes granted to human beings is their skill of learning from their mistakes.  Unfortunately McCann sceptics prove there are those who are incapable of acquiring that particular skill.  Which is amply demonstrated by their replication of the 2007 ignoring of a paedophile like Brueckner or another with his skill set living in plain sight while every obstacle is put in place to thwart the parents of a missing child in their search for her and to cause as much distress to them as is inhumanly possible to do.

Brueckner or someone with a matching profile did this and sceptics are doing today much as they did in 2007 with perfect examples of "plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose" fuelled by their stranger abduction denial.  All when it was possible that over the years at least one collector and perpetrator of vicious attacks on children recorded on his private memory sticks could have been removed from the equation.

Imagine the mindset which allows that for I cannot.

Brady did not drive a car and only had an audio cassette tape recorder to work with ~ imagine what a pervert such as he was could have accomplished if he had had the resources available to a Brueckner.

Brady did have a car. He also has nothing to do with this case. CB's involvement has yet to be confirmed using evidence.

[Venturi Swirl]

Brady did have a car. He also has nothing to do with this case. CB's involvement has yet to be confirmed using evidence.

I think you’ll find Brady did not have a car, it was Hindley that had the car.

[Brietta]

Brady did have a car. He also has nothing to do with this case. CB's involvement has yet to be confirmed using evidence.

As always you are entirely wrong.  Please do some basic research prior to posting inaccurate observations. 

Interestingly without Hyndley's active co-operation, car, driving and people skills one wonders if there might never have been 'moors murderers' abducting children to abuse and murder.

I can appreciate why you don't wish parallels to be drawn between the criminal careers of Brady and Brueckner.  But there was a time before his true nature was discovered when Brady could be considered just a normal guy.  The same cannot be said of Brueckner though who always seems to have stood out certainly according to those who knew him well enough to have had input to police enquiries featuring him and who contributed to media speculation.

I think you are wrong that there is no evidence linking Madeleine's abduction to Brueckner.  What is true is that lay people like you and me haven't seen what it is yet.  Terribly true is that those who have seen it and who therefore know what it is have been convinced by it.

• To the extent that German police have named him prime suspect in the crime against Madeleine.
• He is the prime suspect for English police.
• And the Portuguese police have named him Arguido ~ which requires evidence and is the same thing ie prime suspect.

Congratulations for your stance on Brueckner's behalf ~ maybe now is the time to match it with giving the libel of abduction denial when it comes to Madeleine's parents some serious thought too.

[barrier]

I think you’ll find Brady did not have a car, it was Hindley that had the car.

His car, her car, he drove it though.

He agreed and she offered him a lift home. Brady was driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39934966

[barrier]

A perfect example of taking in the broader picture I think.

There are those who have leapt to the defence of a habitual sexual offender and frequenter of the dark paedophile web where the  most unimaginable obscenities are posted and where Brueckner was a contributor and member.

How do you and fellow sceptics equate your blaming post with Brady's recording of the death of a child which brought hardened detectives and all who heard it to their knees.
At the time Brady wasn't a murderer - because he hadn't been caught.

How do you and fellow sceptics equate defending a convicted felon who hoards horrific child pornography exactly as Brady did, by using the exoneration that he doesn't have a conviction for child abduction.

If you are going to use anyone's post event record against them as a debating point, don't you realise that opens the flood gates to everyone being fair game? within the confines of libel laws.

In other words - Brueckner may or may not have harmed Madeleine - but his record to date is a tough one to defend.

Says something of the supporter mindset when Brady is brought into the discussion to justify suspicion of CB.

[Brietta]

Says something of the supporter mindset when Brady is brought into the discussion to justify suspicion of CB.

The discussion has encompassed discussion of senior judges and cases totally unrelated to Madeleine's case   I missed your complaints about that.

The discussion has included promotion of the abduction denial libel and mindset.  That seems to have been fine by you too.

NB - this is an inclusive forum which discusses all manifestations of Madeleine's case both real and as imagined by posters favoured by you.

This thread is about the reality of Madeleine's abduction and what is known about it to date.  Which at the moment includes the very real presence of a plausible candidate for the abduction of Madeleine who is under investigation by three police authorities.
I understand why you prefer to discuss the shibboleths of sceptic ground hog day.  Maybe it is time to move on from that and keep up with the rest of the world.  But whatever keeps you happy.  For my part I am content to await the outcome of the present investigation being carried out by SY ~ BKA ~ PJ once Brueckner's lawyers have concluded the current process concerning the sexually motivated crimes German prosecutors accuse him of.

This criminal has a long and drawn out rap sheet which requires to be addressed and he is certainly going nowhere until the prosecutors - his lawyers - the courts and judges have had their say.

[Venturi Swirl]

Says something of the supporter mindset when Brady is brought into the discussion to justify suspicion of CB.

Makes a change considering the number of times over the year sceptics have compared Kate McCann to Myra Hindley or Rosemary West.

[Venturi Swirl]

His car, her car, he drove it though.

He agreed and she offered him a lift home. Brady was driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39934966

Thanks for confirming I was factually correct.

[Brietta]

Makes a change considering the number of times over the year sceptics have compared Kate McCann to Myra Hindley or Rosemary West.

There seems to be a pattern for perpetrators of a particular type of depravity.  Some of which moors murderer Brady  and prime suspect Bruekner share.

Brady and Hindley's youngest victim was abducted and taken to the home shared with Hindley's grandmother where she was sexually assaulted and tortured. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39934966

Explicit photographs were taken of the child's ordeal.

The depraved duo recorded the little girl's last moments on an audio tape, which was later played in court  The effect of it on those who heard it played in court and the sound of Hindley's voice on it probably ensured she was destined to die in jail.

At the moment Brueckner is the declared prime suspect.  When we hear the evidence against him, we will be better placed to consider if he too merits his place in the rogues gallery.

Another parallel is the attraction some individuals have for associating themselves with criminals of this type.  The moors murderers had their fair share of admirers and well wishers just as Brueckner does. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/hindleys-sick-fan-club-957008

[sadie]

It was a temporary anagram I adopted to avoid the chop when John was cutting out dead wood and giving Holly a prune.

Oh really ???   It has other connotations too, in my very honest opinion.    Doesn't it, Ret?

[Myster]

Oh really ???   It has other connotations too, in my very honest opinion.    Doesn't it, Ret?

Trying to dig up some dirt by ferreting through my year-old posts?   Quite Bonkers!

You're better off investigating why Musk has deleted your moggy video from X.

[sadie]

Trying to dig up some dirt by ferreting through my year-old posts?   Quite Bonkers!

You're better off investigating why Musk has deleted your moggy video from X.

What on earth are you on about, Ret ?

I am just trying to get to the truth, but I doubt it is coming.

Why on earth did you suddenly come up with the name Ret Sym if you wanted it kept quiet?


I guess that you were over hasty protecting your son, The General, and it slipped out.   I salute you for trying to protect him.   Do keep him out of this if it is not too late.   Matt James seems to already be aware, there are two wizards as shown on his website.   Strangely in the past few months there is a red warning mark against the site. 
I ignore the warning and have experienced no harm.


Matts tarots take some understanding, but I think I understand this group and they go along very well with my thoughts about bloodlines and wanting to breed someone of very special blood.


Power, and all that goes with it?