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Friend of beauty queen JonBenet’s family backs theory brother killed her and parents covered it up.



By CAROLINE IGGULDEN in New York
25 September 2016


Judith Phillips, a Ramsey family friend for more than ten years, told how she had often seen flashes of brother's temper.

IT is almost 20 years since the body of six-year-old beauty pageant queen JonBenét Ramsey was found bludgeoned and strangled in the wine cellar of her parents’ suburban home.

Yet the world’s fascination with the bizarre circumstances surrounding the Christmas murder shows no sign of fading.



Last week a US documentary claimed JonBenét’s brother Burke, who at the time was just nine years old, could be to blame for the death which his parents hastily covered up.

No charges have ever been filed and authorities have stated in the past that Burke, now 29, is NOT a suspect.

He strongly denies he or his parents were involved in the crime and has offered to take a lie-detector test.



But a fresh storm erupted this month as viewers say he was grinning while discussing his ­sister’s death with US TV psychologist Dr Phil.

The case unfolded on Boxing Day morning, 1996, when mum Patsy called 911 claiming her daughter was missing and she had found a ransom note in her home in Boulder, Colorado.

Just hours later, after detectives had arrived, John Ramsey discovered JonBenét’s body in the basement.



In addition to a fractured skull, the girl’s wrists were tied over her head and duct tape covered her mouth. She had been strangled with a garrotte fashioned from a broken paintbrush — the remnants of which were found in Patsy’s art box.

Footage soon emerged showing JonBenét in child beauty pageants, plastered in make-up with a bouffant. The images made the case unforgettable.

Now, in CBS documentary The Case of JonBenét Ramsey, a former investigator for Boulder’s District Attorney gave his theory that the little girl and her brother clashed over a snack of fresh pineapple.

JonBenét’s autopsy report showed undigested pineapple in her system. It was a clue which had baffled investigators, given her parents claimed their daughter was asleep when they returned from a Christmas party and had been put straight to bed.

Crime scene footage showed a bowl of pineapple and a glass of iced tea both bearing Burke’s fingerprints.

Patsy always denied knowledge of the pineapple or how it ended up on the table, despite her fingerprints also being found on the bow.

On the programme former investigator James Kolar states: “I think the Ramseys came home at around 9.30, 10 o’clock. I think JonBenét was asleep.

“I think John did carry her upstairs. Patsy remained downstairs with Burke and served him the tea and pineapple.

“Then she got JonBenét up to make sure she used the toilet.”

James claims JonBenét later went downstairs and grabbed a chunk of Burke’s pineapple causing her furious brother to hit her with a flashlight.

The TV documentary also pointed out two red marks on JonBenét’s lower back could have been made by a piece of Burke’s toy train track.

The new probe suggested Burke may have poked his sister with the track when he realised she wasn’t moving.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1851552/friend-of-jonbenet-family-backs-theory-brother-killed-her-and-parents-covered-it-up/
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 02:21:41 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Friend of beauty queen JonBenet’s family backs theory brother killed her.
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 02:57:44 PM »
Having watched the most recent videos in this case the similarities with the McCann case is striking.  Are people really so daft as to believe an intruder entered the family home, assaulted the child and sat down and wrote a 2½ page ransom note?  Something else which is plain silly is that it took 8 hours to discover the child's body in the basement.  Surely a proper search would have been carried out in the property almost immediately.

The parents refusal to assist police fully is very telling imo.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline mercury

Re: Friend of beauty queen JonBenet’s family backs theory brother killed her.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2016, 01:16:58 AM »
I think you would have to a moron at best  to not know this was a total cover up for the brother killing his sister

david1819

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I think you would have to a moron at best  to not know this was a total cover up for the brother killing his sister

Really?

1. Duct tape around her mouth cannot be linked to the Ramsay's 

"The black duct tape used on JonBenet's mouth has also not been sourced to defendants. (SMF P 170; PSMF P 170.) Both ends of the duct tape found on her were torn, indicating that it came from a roll of tape that had been used before. (SMF P 171; PSMF P 171.) No similar duct tape was found in the house, nor is there evidence that defendants ever used or owned such duct tape. (SMF P 172; PSMF P 172.)" (Carnes 2003:18).
Cord. "sources for the....cord used in the crime were never located, nor sourced, to defendants' home." (Carnes 2003:10).


2. The cord used around her neck cannot be linked the Ramseys

"sources for the....cord used in the crime were never located, nor sourced, to defendants' home." (Carnes 2003:10).

3. A bag containing rope and a baseball bat not belonging to the Ramsays was found in the house

A baseball bat not owned by the Ramseys found on the north side of the house has fibers consistent with fibers found in the carpet in the basement where JonBenet's body was found. (SMF P 185; PSMF P 185.)" (Carnes 2003:20).

Rope and Bag in JAR Bedroom. "a rope was found inside a brown paper sack in the guest bedroom on the second floor; defendants have indicated that neither of these items belonged to them. (SMF P 181; PSMF P 181.) Regardless of its ownership, there is no explanation why a bag containing a rope would be in the guest bedroom. Further, small pieces of the material on this brown sack were found in the "vacuuming" of JonBenet's bed and in the body bag that was used to transport her body (SMF P 181; PSMF P 181), thereby suggesting that either the bag had been near JonBenet or that someone who had touched the bag had also touched JonBenet." (Carnes 2003:93-94).

4. Debris of dirt and leaves from outside was found on the basement floor

Moreover, leaves and debris, consistent with the leaves and debris found in the window well, were found on the floor under the broken window suggesting that someone had actually entered the basement through this window. (SMF P 136; PSMF P 136.)" (Carnes 2003:88).


5. Handwriting on the ransom note does not belong to any of the parents.

During the investigation, the Boulder Police Department and Boulder County District Attorney's Office consulted at least six handwriting experts. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) All of these experts consulted the original Ransom Note and original handwriting exemplars from Mrs. Ramsey. (SMF P 205; PSMF P 205.) Four of these experts were hired by the police and two were hired by defendants. (SMF P 191; PSMF P 191.) None of the six consulted experts identified Mrs. Ramsey as the author of the Ransom Note. (SMF P 195; PSMF P 195.)

All six experts cited in the Carnes opinion  "agreed that Mr. Ramsey could be eliminated as the author of the Ransom Note. (SMF P 194; PSMF P 194.)" (Carnes 2003:26).

6. Unidentified male DNA found under JonBenet's fingernails

The coroner took nail clippings from JonBenet. Male DNA was found under JonBenet's right hand fingernail that does not match that of any Ramsey. (SMF P 174; PSMF P 174.) Defendants also assert that male DNA was found under JonBenet's left hand fingernail, which also does not match that of any Ramsey. (SMF P 173.)" (Carnes 2003:22).

7. Unidentified male DNA found on JonBenet's underwear

"In addition, male DNA was found in JonBenet's underwear that does not match that of any Ramsey and has not yet been sourced. (SMF PP 175, 178; PSMF PP 175, 178.)" (Carnes 2003:22).

8. The unidentified DNA under JonBenets nails can match to the DNA found in her underwear

The same AP report stated noted "its genetic markers may match evidence taken from fingernails on both of JonBenet's hands. 'There are common markers as to all three that would strongly suggest they are from the same source


And i thought the Bamber guilters were bad  @)(++(*

BTW the latest CBS documentary was appalling. I could not watch it all.

Offline mercury

Seems most of your objections mean nothing at all in reality

Try harder

There was no third party involved and no evidence of it

It was an inside job end of

Motive means and opportunity

The behaviour of the family afterwards kinda confirmed it anyway and the son was obviously sick
« Last Edit: October 21, 2016, 12:06:14 AM by mercury »

david1819

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Seems most of your objections mean nothing at all in reality

Try harder

There was no third party involved and no evidence of it

It was an inside job end of

Motive means and opportunity

The behaviour of the family afterwards kinda confirmed it anyway and the son was obviously sick

You assert but where is your evidence?


Everything i quoted in blue was directly from a court order, one of many and the Ramsay's have won every case because the evidence of an intruder is so overwhelming. Burke Ramsey will sue CBS and win just like all the other libel cases they have won.

Offline mercury

Most of those so called court debunks are not worth the paper theyre written on, leaves on shoes, duct tape, rope
Re the dna i confess i havent read about that
If what you say is true though that documentary couldnt have been made
Did you watch it? Did you see the little boy laughing...disturbed



Offline jameson245

Having watched the most recent videos in this case the similarities with the McCann case is striking.  Are people really so daft as to believe an intruder entered the family home, assaulted the child and sat down and wrote a 2½ page ransom note?  Something else which is plain silly is that it took 8 hours to discover the child's body in the basement.  Surely a proper search would have been carried out in the property almost immediately.

The parents refusal to assist police fully is very telling imo.

I don't know that anyone thinks an intruder wrote that note AFTER the crime.  Detective Lou Smit said even a hardened criminal would have a hard time writing that AFTER - - he'd be in an adrenalin rush.

Plus - who would write a note to intentionally leave with the body in the house?  I mean, it really wasn't HIDDEN, not covered in clutter or put in the freezer with the stuff stored on top returned.  It was left in the middle of a small room, sure to be found during a real search.

Talking about search - - the door was locked fromm the outside - the hall side.  In the beginning everyone believed JonBenet was taken by the kidnapper -  they were looking for her kidnapper or how he got in or out - - and that locked door couldn't have been the way out. 
Remember the Child

Offline jameson245

I think you would have to a moron at best  to not know this was a total cover up for the brother killing his sister

CBS went with that theory, aired a show saying just that - and was sued for $750 million.  They lost.  Because the evidence really does point to an intruder.
Remember the Child

Offline jameson245

Seems most of your objections mean nothing at all in reality

Try harder

There was no third party involved and no evidence of it

It was an inside job end of

Motive means and opportunity

The behaviour of the family afterwards kinda confirmed it anyway and the son was obviously sick


Dr. Dobersen is the expert on stun gun injuries and he said he would testify that - - "to a medical certainty" the marks on her back and neck came from a stun gun.  The parents didn't own one, none was found in the house and police could never link one to the family.


Cord, tape, Hi-Tec boots - palm print on basement door, hair, fibers - - on or near the body and unsourced.  Match nothing in the house, the rest of the cord and tape missing  -  all points to an intruder who brought those things into the house.


The DNA found under her nails, on the waistband of the long johns AND COMINGLED WITH THE BLOOD IN HER PANTIES - all matches.  The blood came from the sexual assault - -  and the DNA clears about 30 - at least 30 - suspects - - INCLUDING THE FAMILY.
Federal Judge Julie Carnes said years ago that the evidence pointed to an intruder and the judge who handled the recent CBS case agreed.


The family had no motive -  nothing before or aftr the murder shows they were capable of this OR had any REASON to do this.
Remember the Child

Offline jameson245

Most of those so called court debunks are not worth the paper theyre written on, leaves on shoes, duct tape, rope
Re the dna i confess i havent read about that
If what you say is true though that documentary couldnt have been made
Did you watch it? Did you see the little boy laughing...disturbed

You ignore the fact that the cord and tape match nothing in the house?  Wow.

The DNA - - read the letter of apology sent by DA Mary Lacy to the Ramseys - - easy to find online.


Anyone can make a documentary.  But if they lie, they can be sued and that is just what happened with CBS.  (They settled this month.)


Burke was disturbed - - wouldn't you be if YOUR sister was murdered and you had to leave your home to be harassed by the media and see your parents cry every day and....   ????
Remember the Child

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Friend of beauty queen JonBenet’s family backs theory brother killed her.
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2019, 09:33:11 PM »
CBS went with that theory, aired a show saying just that - and was sued for $750 million.  They lost.  Because the evidence really does point to an intruder.
It didn't go to trial.  It was settled out of court.
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