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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4035 on: November 13, 2021, 10:37:57 PM »
It isn't recorded as a revolution.
You’re just being a pedant now.
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Offline Carana

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4036 on: November 13, 2021, 11:54:59 PM »
I do know Portugal a bit, especially during both Revolutions.

But probably more to the point I remember The Michael Cooke Affair when he appeared in Court beaten up and with teeth missing.  The British Government weren't having that happening again.

As well. That case was brought up in Parliament.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1992/jun/09/mr-michael-cook

However, the Cipriano case might have been fresher in the minds of those in diplomatic circles.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4037 on: November 14, 2021, 07:52:53 AM »
You’re just being a pedant now.

Am I, or is it those who claim a revolution occured despite there being no record of it?
England - good effort

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4038 on: November 14, 2021, 07:57:46 AM »
Am I, or is it those who claim a revolution occured despite there being no record of it?
There are numerous references online to a revolution and a counter revolution in Portugal in the 70s, I respectfully suggest you take it up with them rather than carrying on this history debat here, it’s not really very relevant is it?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4039 on: November 14, 2021, 08:52:25 AM »
There are numerous references online to a revolution and a counter revolution in Portugal in the 70s, I respectfully suggest you take it up with them rather than carrying on this history debat here, it’s not really very relevant is it?

It's not relevant at all, but it gets mentioned regularly for some reason.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4040 on: November 14, 2021, 09:43:25 AM »
It's not relevant at all, but it gets mentioned regularly for some reason.
Time to move on then I think.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4041 on: November 14, 2021, 10:22:33 AM »
Time to move on then I think.

I agree. After all, it happened when Amaral was 15 years old.
England - good effort

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4042 on: November 14, 2021, 02:45:48 PM »
As well. That case was brought up in Parliament.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1992/jun/09/mr-michael-cook

However, the Cipriano case might have been fresher in the minds of those in diplomatic circles.

The Cipriano Case just served to prove that beatings were still going on.

Thanks for that report.  I feel sick all over again.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4043 on: November 14, 2021, 02:48:01 PM »
I agree. After all, it happened when Amaral was 15 years old.

Amaral was educated by the old regime.  And not surprisingly told lies in court.

Offline Carana

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4044 on: November 14, 2021, 06:30:48 PM »
Amaral was educated by the old regime.  And not surprisingly told lies in court.

I very much doubt that Amaral would have been involved in the Cook case, but Encarnação (head honcho of the Faro directorate until he became very ill and died in 2010, aged 63, and Amaral's superior) may well have been.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4045 on: November 14, 2021, 06:34:17 PM »
I very much doubt that Amaral would have been involved in the Cook case, but Encarnação (head honcho of the Faro directorate until he became very ill and died in 2010, aged 63, and Amaral's superior) may well have been.

I don't know who was involved.  It's the mindset that worries me.

Offline Brietta

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4046 on: January 15, 2022, 02:30:26 AM »
I was intrigued to come across the following from Bild.  I had read about the German prosecutor's put down in the British press but this gives it a slightly different slant.

NEW ALLEGATIONS
Ex-policeman scolds German Maddie investigators
BKA and public prosecutor's office had "almost fraudulently" pulled the case to themselves
by: KAI FELDHAUSpublished on
07.10.2021 - 18:26 o'clock
Praia da Luz (Portugal) – The fired chief investigator does not rest!

After Maddie McCann (then 3) disappeared from an apartment in the Algarve in May 2007, Kripochef Goncalo Amaral (62) led the investigation for four months. He suspected Maddie's parents, was dismissed from his post and put into early retirement.

Next week, a new book will be published in Portugal in which Amaral deals with the latest investigations against the suspect Christian Brückner (44).

BKA and Braunschweig public prosecutor's office consider the German child molester, who is currently in custody in Oldenburg for rape, to be the man who kidnapped and killed Maddie.

Amaral, who apparently still has good contacts with the Portuguese police, is going to court with the German investigators, according to BILD information.

They had appropriated the Maddie case with a "trick" by constructing a German suspect and thus creating a German jurisdiction. Amaral calls this procedure "almost fraudulent": The Germans have launched their own criminal trial in order to be able to put aside the investigations that have been conducted in Portugal for 14 years.

Why the BKA and the Braunschweig Public Prosecutor's Office, which have so far had nothing to do with the Maddie case, should have done so – Amaral still owes this answer.

The ex-investigator, who had already made similar accusations in the BILD documentary "My Biggest Case", goes even further: He spreads details from the lives of three witnesses in the Maddie case, wants to portray them as implausible.

EX-INVESTIGATORS EXCLUSIVELY IN BILD
Christian Brückner is only a scapegoat

All investigations against Brückner are part of a great conspiracy, instigated by Scotland Yard, which is under pressure to succeed. The conclusions of the Portuguese investigators – that Maddie's parents were to blame for the disappearance of their daughter – would be ignored, instead forming a kind of "syndicate" that would submit to the British authorities.

Hans Christian Wolters, spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, commented on the allegations: "We are not interested in the views and assessments of a former Portuguese police officer because we assume that he does not have our investigation results and files. It is therefore completely irrelevant to us what Mr. Amaral thinks, says and writes."


https://www.bild.de/news/ausland/news-ausland/neues-buch-im-fall-maddie-ex-polizist-schimpft-auf-deutsche-ermittler-77897004.bild.html###wt_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&wt_t=1642212194158
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4047 on: January 15, 2022, 07:54:49 AM »
I was intrigued to come across the following from Bild.  I had read about the German prosecutor's put down in the British press but this gives it a slightly different slant.

NEW ALLEGATIONS
Ex-policeman scolds German Maddie investigators
BKA and public prosecutor's office had "almost fraudulently" pulled the case to themselves
by: KAI FELDHAUSpublished on
07.10.2021 - 18:26 o'clock
Praia da Luz (Portugal) – The fired chief investigator does not rest!

After Maddie McCann (then 3) disappeared from an apartment in the Algarve in May 2007, Kripochef Goncalo Amaral (62) led the investigation for four months. He suspected Maddie's parents, was dismissed from his post and put into early retirement.

Next week, a new book will be published in Portugal in which Amaral deals with the latest investigations against the suspect Christian Brückner (44).

BKA and Braunschweig public prosecutor's office consider the German child molester, who is currently in custody in Oldenburg for rape, to be the man who kidnapped and killed Maddie.

Amaral, who apparently still has good contacts with the Portuguese police, is going to court with the German investigators, according to BILD information.

They had appropriated the Maddie case with a "trick" by constructing a German suspect and thus creating a German jurisdiction. Amaral calls this procedure "almost fraudulent": The Germans have launched their own criminal trial in order to be able to put aside the investigations that have been conducted in Portugal for 14 years.

Why the BKA and the Braunschweig Public Prosecutor's Office, which have so far had nothing to do with the Maddie case, should have done so – Amaral still owes this answer.

The ex-investigator, who had already made similar accusations in the BILD documentary "My Biggest Case", goes even further: He spreads details from the lives of three witnesses in the Maddie case, wants to portray them as implausible.

EX-INVESTIGATORS EXCLUSIVELY IN BILD
Christian Brückner is only a scapegoat

All investigations against Brückner are part of a great conspiracy, instigated by Scotland Yard, which is under pressure to succeed. The conclusions of the Portuguese investigators – that Maddie's parents were to blame for the disappearance of their daughter – would be ignored, instead forming a kind of "syndicate" that would submit to the British authorities.

Hans Christian Wolters, spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, commented on the allegations: "We are not interested in the views and assessments of a former Portuguese police officer because we assume that he does not have our investigation results and files. It is therefore completely irrelevant to us what Mr. Amaral thinks, says and writes."


https://www.bild.de/news/ausland/news-ausland/neues-buch-im-fall-maddie-ex-polizist-schimpft-auf-deutsche-ermittler-77897004.bild.html###wt_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&wt_t=1642212194158

Amaral hasn't gone quiet then; at least he was still speaking last October.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4048 on: January 15, 2022, 08:25:36 AM »
Still talking absolute bilge it would seem. Wasn’t he just publicising his latest flop publication?
I no longer read nor reply to posts made by those posters I perceive to be WUMS and TROLLS so if you think I'm ignoring you this may be the reason.  Best wishes.

Offline Davel

Re: Goncalo Amaral.
« Reply #4049 on: January 15, 2022, 09:30:16 AM »
Amaral hasn't gone quiet then; at least he was still speaking last October.

Amaral has stopped promoting his claim of an accidental death and cover up.. That's  a fact you can't seem to accept