McCanns appeal to the European Court of Human Rights

[jassi]

I believe the good Drs McCann found themselves in a position where they could do little else regardless of its merit.
It has the potential for booting the can ten years down the track ....... but it has to clear the first hurdle yet with two more hurdles after that.
The case will be against The State of Portugal not Amaral which some seem to fail to grasp. In ten years time they may be awarded 70 grand compensation if they are lucky.
See Steel and Morris v UK.

I think they understand it very well, but are just unwilling to accept it.
 Its the whole denial business of not accepting that the McCann are to blame for anything.

[jassi]

right so it doesnt affect amaral or his money at all does it?

Of course not. Any frozen assets have been well and truly thawed out by now.

Money paid out by the McCanns is for legal fees. Amaral  had crowd-funded money for his legal fees.

[Alice Purjorick]

I think they understand it very well, but are just unwilling to accept it.
 Its the whole denial business of not accepting that the McCann are to blame for anything.

Then why insult our intelligence by insisting, by implication, that the ECHR public information is a load of blx?

[jassi]

Then why insult our intelligence by insisting, by implication, that the ECHR public information is a load of blx?

Isn't it just trolling ? - winding others up

[carlymichelle]

dont the mcanns still owe lots of money  still??

[jassi]

dont the mcanns still owe lots of money  still??

Who knows? The Sun certainly doesn't or it would have provided a source.

[slartibartfast]

Can't you see it?  There is a 50/50 chance that Madeleine is dead ... there is a 50/50 chance that Madeleine is alive ... or at the least she was on the 4th May 2007.

Her parents are going with the 50/50 that she is alive ... and have insisted on searching for her based on that ... which has resulted in evidence being uncovered which justified British and Portuguese authorities reopening Madeleine's case.

Amaral has insisted as we now know from his book, from the moment when he opened his eyes on the morning of 4th May 2007, that Madeleine died in the apartment and her parents were complicit in that and hiding her body.

Nobody looks for a dead child and the search for her body proved redundant provoking all sorts of wild allegations from Amaral then and over the years intervening.

Therefore it is self evident that Madeleine's parents have been fighting for over ten years to protect her human right as a missing child ... to be looked for.

Can you show your workings for your 50:50 claim?

[G-Unit]

Don't you rather think there is a matter of Law here as far as the money which seems to have become a bit of an obsession to you is concerned?

The European Court being the clincher on who pays what to whom? 
Just a case of wait and see
(a) if the case is accepted and
(b) what the ruling of the European Court of Human Rights will be if it is

The fact no money has yet changed hands suggests that while the case is still under legal consideration, none will. Should the ECHR rule in the McCann favour I think the boot will be on the other foot with Portugal lifting the tab and Amaral kissing goodbye to the money he made from Madeleine.

Time will tell.    ABSOLUTELY AIMHO

The McCann's appeal to the ECHR changes nothing in respect of the money they owe to the Portuguese Courts;

If I apply to the Court, does it mean I do not have to
comply with the final judgment given by the domestic
courts?
No, applying to the Court has no suspensive effect. You must
comply with the final decisions of the national courts even if you
lodge an application with the Strasbourg Court.
http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf

I think it's quite bad if they haven't paid what they owe after 6 months.

[Eleanor]

Can you show your workings for your 50:50 claim?

This is not possible either way.

[G-Unit]

Can you show your workings for your 50:50 claim?

I don't think the prosecutors saw it as 50/50;

whether she is still alive or if she is dead, as seems more likely.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

[stephen25000]

The McCann's appeal to the ECHR changes nothing in respect of the money they owe to the Portuguese Courts;

If I apply to the Court, does it mean I do not have to
comply with the final judgment given by the domestic
courts?
No, applying to the Court has no suspensive effect. You must
comply with the final decisions of the national courts even if you
lodge an application with the Strasbourg Court.
http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Your_Application_ENG.pdf

I think it's quite bad if they haven't paid what they owe after 6 months.

They could well face court action themselves for recovery of the money, plus additional costs.

If they trying to avoid paying, it is a very foolish choice.

[jassi]

This is not possible either way.

So if said I reckoned that there was only a 10% chance of her being alive, you'd let that stand because there's no way to show either way ?

[G-Unit]

They could well face court action themselves for recovery of the money, plus additional costs.

If they trying to avoid paying, it is a very foolish choice.

There's always the possibility that the Courts haven't added up the bill and sent it out yet. It will be quite complicated as it will be made up of costs for so many cases with different claimants and defendants. Then there will be claims from the defendants for various expenses plus lawyer's fees. The Portuguese Courts aren't noted fr their speed.

[slartibartfast]

This is not possible either way.

Surely it was more than just a WAG.

[John]

Indeed it is.

quote from Sun
 "So far no money has been paid by either party and now they will square up to each other at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg."

Utter rubbish. Amaral has nothing to to with any case at the ECHR

100% correct. Gonçalo Amaral has no involvement in any action raised by the McCann's at the ECHR, I do wish someone would explain this to Nick Pisa and The Sun.  The Application is against Portugal, not Gonçalo Amaral.