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Offline faithlilly

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2022, 12:53:47 PM »
Interesting, Nicholas. When, exactly, do you think he returned to his crime scene? He did, undeniably, have the time to return to the crime scene that evening, but, would he have risked getting incriminating DNA on his changed clothing? Is is not more logical that he tied her hands behind her back and did those mutilations immediately after Jodi stopped breathing, between 1710 and 1735?

The pattern of lividity, which can begin forming as little as 30 minutes after death, would have clearly illustrated if Jodiís body had been moved in any way. Not only that but the setting in of rigor mortis would have prevented the moving of any part of the body within a few hours.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 ďBut whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.Ē

Letís count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2022, 01:01:23 PM »
Interesting, Nicholas. When, exactly, do you think he returned to his crime scene? He did, undeniably, have the time to return to the crime scene that evening, but, would he have risked getting incriminating DNA on his changed clothing? Is is not more logical that he tied her hands behind her back and did those mutilations immediately after Jodi stopped breathing, between 1710 and 1735?

Obviously only killer Luke Mitchell knows what time he returned to his crime scene

But regarding him risking returning to his crime scene and Ďgetting incriminating DNA on his changed clothingí; his murder of [Name removed] is surely evidence enough that he didnít really care about such risks. Plus if he wore gloves when he returned, to say for example, inflict PM injuries (Or further PM injuries) or replace [Name removed]ís socks, there would be no reason for him to get incriminating DNA on him if he was wearing gloves

Does anyone know what the results were regarding the boots he was wearing ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2022, 01:02:51 PM »
Does anyone know what the results were regarding the boots he was wearing ?

Was [Name removed]ís DNA found on the soles of his boots after having gone over the wall pretending to the rest of the Ďsearch partyí he had just found [Name removed]ís body?
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Offline Mr Apples

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2022, 05:26:38 PM »
Obviously only killer Luke Mitchell knows what time he returned to his crime scene

But regarding him risking returning to his crime scene and Ďgetting incriminating DNA on his changed clothingí; his murder of [Name removed] is surely evidence enough that he didnít really care about such risks. Plus if he wore gloves when he returned, to say for example, inflict PM injuries (Or further PM injuries) or replace [Name removed]ís socks, there would be no reason for him to get incriminating DNA on him if he was wearing gloves

Does anyone know what the results were regarding the boots he was wearing ?

While he was intelligent, cocky, arrogant and insubordinate beyond his years, I doubt very much he risked returning to the crime scene in his changed clothing -- especially in those white snowboarding boots that the police confiscated at Dalkeith Police Station during the early hours of 01.07.03 along with his shiny green bomber jacket, black t-shirt and black baggy jeans. Of course, as you say, his psychopathy, sociopathy and narcicissm, along with his arrogance, intelligence, detachedness and cockiness, perhaps made it easy for him to make the decision to return to his crime scene. There was ample amount of time for him to do so (from 1740 - 2315) and he was not seen by anyone for expansive amounts of time over the course of that evening (not seen by anyone from 1825 - 1930 and again not seen by anyone between 2100 - 2200; and, of course, as SM proved in court, LM wasn't in the house at 1650 when he got in from work; and then LM wasn't seen, either, even though he claimed to be at the end of his street, on the Newbattle Road between 1740 - 1800, which was peak traffic time on a relatively busy road). So, yes, copious amounts of time to revisit the locus. If he did return to the locus between 1740 - 2315, I would think he did so in another pair of black boots/trainers (because I think the pair he was spotted in by AB were destroyed along with the parka and all other clothing AB saw him in at 1654). I don't think he'd risk wearing white boots, outwith him wearing them whenngoing to meet tge search trio to lead them to the body (his leading the trio to the body was pre-planned, so he would have had no problems wearing them when going to meet them at 2315).

On the subject of LM's cockiness, arrogance and mental/personality disorders, etc, while he did think he was untouchable (as evidenced by his swanning around town and night clubs like a strutting peacock, living off of his notoriety as a murder suspect), he certainly let his guard down at times and made the police's work easy for them (prime examples being telling them exactly what clothes Jodi was wearing that night, in spite of claiming to have never seen her at all that evening, and leading the trio to Jodi's body as quickly as he did). Having said that, there were things that had taken place outwith Luke's control before and after the murder, so it was always going to be an almost impossible task to cover his tracks, and this, coupled with his naivety, certainly proved that way. Thankfully, too, the police were always one step ahead of this evil and very cunning young lad.

Offline Nicholas

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2022, 09:12:03 PM »
While he was intelligent, cocky, arrogant and insubordinate beyond his years, I doubt very much he risked returning to the crime scene in his changed clothing -- especially in those white snowboarding boots that the police confiscated at Dalkeith Police Station during the early hours of 01.07.03 along with his shiny green bomber jacket, black t-shirt and black baggy jeans. Of course, as you say, his psychopathy, sociopathy and narcicissm, along with his arrogance, intelligence, detachedness and cockiness, perhaps made it easy for him to make the decision to return to his crime scene. There was ample amount of time for him to do so (from 1740 - 2315) and he was not seen by anyone for expansive amounts of time over the course of that evening (not seen by anyone from 1825 - 1930 and again not seen by anyone between 2100 - 2200; and, of course, as SM proved in court, LM wasn't in the house at 1650 when he got in from work; and then LM wasn't seen, either, even though he claimed to be at the end of his street, on the Newbattle Road between 1740 - 1800, which was peak traffic time on a relatively busy road). So, yes, copious amounts of time to revisit the locus. If he did return to the locus between 1740 - 2315, I would think he did so in another pair of black boots/trainers (because I think the pair he was spotted in by AB were destroyed along with the parka and all other clothing AB saw him in at 1654). I don't think he'd risk wearing white boots, outwith him wearing them whenngoing to meet tge search trio to lead them to the body (his leading the trio to the body was pre-planned, so he would have had no problems wearing them when going to meet them at 2315).

On the subject of LM's cockiness, arrogance and mental/personality disorders, etc, while he did think he was untouchable (as evidenced by his swanning around town and night clubs like a strutting peacock, living off of his notoriety as a murder suspect), he certainly let his guard down at times and made the police's work easy for them (prime examples being telling them exactly what clothes Jodi was wearing that night, in spite of claiming to have never seen her at all that evening, and leading the trio to Jodi's body as quickly as he did). Having said that, there were things that had taken place outwith Luke's control before and after the murder, so it was always going to be an almost impossible task to cover his tracks, and this, coupled with his naivety, certainly proved that way. Thankfully, too, the police were always one step ahead of this evil and very cunning young lad.

Killer Luke Mitchell wasnít/isnít *intelligent*
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Offline Nicholas

Re: J J's Hands Found Tied
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2022, 09:14:20 PM »
While he was intelligent, cocky, arrogant and insubordinate beyond his years, I doubt very much he risked returning to the crime scene in his changed clothing -- especially in those white snowboarding boots that the police confiscated at Dalkeith Police Station during the early hours of 01.07.03 along with his shiny green bomber jacket, black t-shirt and black baggy jeans. Of course, as you say, his psychopathy, sociopathy and narcicissm, along with his arrogance, intelligence, detachedness and cockiness, perhaps made it easy for him to make the decision to return to his crime scene. There was ample amount of time for him to do so (from 1740 - 2315) and he was not seen by anyone for expansive amounts of time over the course of that evening (not seen by anyone from 1825 - 1930 and again not seen by anyone between 2100 - 2200;and, of course, as SM proved in court, LM wasn't in the house at 1650 when he got in from work; and then LM wasn't seen, either, even though he claimed to be at the end of his street, on the Newbattle Road between 1740 - 1800, which was peak traffic time on a relatively busy road). So, yes, copious amounts of time to revisit the locus. If he did return to the locus between 1740 - 2315, I would think he did so in another pair of black boots/trainers (because I think the pair he was spotted in by AB were destroyed along with the parka and all other clothing AB saw him in at 1654). I don't think he'd risk wearing white boots, outwith him wearing them whenngoing to meet tge search trio to lead them to the body (his leading the trio to the body was pre-planned, so he would have had no problems wearing them when going to meet them at 2315).

On the subject of LM's cockiness, arrogance and mental/personality disorders, etc, while he did think he was untouchable (as evidenced by his swanning around town and night clubs like a strutting peacock, living off of his notoriety as a murder suspect), he certainly let his guard down at times and made the police's work easy for them (prime examples being telling them exactly what clothes Jodi was wearing that night, in spite of claiming to have never seen her at all that evening, and leading the trio to Jodi's body as quickly as he did). Having said that, there were things that had taken place outwith Luke's control before and after the murder, so it was always going to be an almost impossible task to cover his tracks, and this, coupled with his naivety, certainly proved that way. Thankfully, too, the police were always one step ahead of this evil and very cunning young lad.

Didnít Corinne Mitchell state (Or slip up) he came into her house at around 10.35pm having received a text from JuJ (See tapatalk)
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