Author Topic: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?  (Read 15173 times)

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Offline John

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #180 on: June 21, 2021, 12:14:53 AM »
It's not about leaks; they are immaterial.

What Wolters has done is made statements "which encourage the public to believe the suspect guilty and prejudge an assessment of the facts by the competent judicial authority". Plain, simple breach of Article 6:2.

I have to agree, he can't give specifics because it is all a sham imo.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #181 on: June 21, 2021, 12:16:16 AM »
There is a difference between Amaral and Wolters which seems to have escaped some people's notice. Amaral was not restricted by being a public official, but Wolters is;

Accordingly the decision in Karaman process vs Germany claims that the Court has previously held in this context that Article 6 § 2 aims at preventing undermining of a fair criminal trial by prejudicial statements made in close connection with proceedings. It not only prohibits the premature expression by the tribunal itself of the opinion the person «charged with a criminal offence» is guilty before he has been so proved according to the law, but also covers statements made by other public officials about pending criminal investigations which encourage the public to believe the suspect guilty and prejudge an assessment of the facts by the competent judicial authority [HUDOC].
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6307.msg239353#msg239353

Amaral has one huge advantage over Wolters and that is that he was there and looked his suspects in the eye. He has information that Wolters will never have.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #182 on: June 21, 2021, 02:25:22 AM »
Amaral has one huge advantage over Wolters and that is that he was there and looked his suspects in the eye. He has information that Wolters will never have.

Amaral didn't meet either of the McCanns in person while he was co-ordinator of the PJ investigation. Source - Kate McCann's book.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #183 on: June 21, 2021, 07:16:27 AM »
Amaral has one huge advantage over Wolters and that is that he was there and looked his suspects in the eye. He has information that Wolters will never have.
As far as I’m aware Amaral had zero information on Brückner so how does that give him an advantage over Wolters?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #184 on: June 21, 2021, 07:41:23 AM »
As far as I’m aware Amaral had zero information on Brückner so how does that give him an advantage over Wolters?

One thing to note is that the first investigation examined the evidence and was unable to find any supporting the theory of stranger abduction. Despite that, both Operation Grange and the Germans appear to be proceeding as if a stranger abduction is a proven fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #185 on: June 21, 2021, 07:51:28 AM »
One thing to note is that the first investigation examined the evidence and was unable to find any supporting the theory of stranger abduction. Despite that, both Operation Grange and the Germans appear to be proceeding as if a stranger abduction is a proven fact.

It may well be that the Germans have proof stranger abduction is a proven fact..

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #186 on: June 21, 2021, 07:54:57 AM »
Amaral has one huge advantage over Wolters and that is that he was there and looked his suspects in the eye. He has information that Wolters will never have.
Amaral thinks the dogs proved Maddie died in the apartment...that to me is gross ignrance and proves his incompetence. Wolters has a massive advantage over Amaral.. Wolters is intelligent and understands the evidence.. Imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #187 on: June 21, 2021, 07:56:27 AM »
I have to agree, he can't give specifics because it is all a sham imo.

I think that post is going to come back to make you look rather foolish

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #188 on: June 21, 2021, 08:04:48 AM »
It's not about leaks; they are immaterial.

What Wolters has done is made statements "which encourage the public to believe the suspect guilty and prejudge an assessment of the facts by the competent judicial authority". Plain, simple breach of Article 6:2.

You are stating your opinion  as fact... It isnt

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #189 on: June 21, 2021, 08:11:28 AM »
One thing to note is that the first investigation examined the evidence and was unable to find any supporting the theory of stranger abduction. Despite that, both Operation Grange and the Germans appear to be proceeding as if a stranger abduction is a proven fact.
No, they are proceeding on the basis that it is the only plausible, logical scenario.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #190 on: June 21, 2021, 08:19:41 AM »
I have to agree, he can't give specifics because it is all a sham imo.
I find your position very puzzling.  You claim to believe Madeleine was abducted (albeit after she woke and wandered) yet you appear to believe that the idea that the culprit is Bruckener is laughable and a sham.  So do you believe another hitherto unidentified paedo/rapist type happened to be loitering in the area that night then?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Online Wonderfulspam

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #191 on: June 21, 2021, 09:06:41 AM »
No, they are proceeding on the basis that it is the only plausible, logical scenario.

And 15 years & £15 million later there's still no evidence to support it.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #192 on: June 21, 2021, 09:10:58 AM »
No, they are proceeding on the basis that it is the only plausible, logical scenario.

Or, in the case of Operation Grange, they have simply followed their remit without bothering to question it. 
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Online Wonderfulspam

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #193 on: June 21, 2021, 09:19:56 AM »
I find your position very puzzling.  You claim to believe Madeleine was abducted (albeit after she woke and wandered) yet you appear to believe that the idea that the culprit is Bruckener is laughable and a sham.  So do you believe another hitherto unidentified paedo/rapist type happened to be loitering in the area that night then?

The presumption of paedophiles.

Why does it always have to be a paedo that took Maddie, in McCann supporter world?

What evidence is there paedophiles were involved in Maddie's disappearance?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: So what exactly is Wolters sure about?
« Reply #194 on: June 21, 2021, 09:22:25 AM »
Aww, my little Spammy stalker only responds to my posts - deeply flattered...  8**8:/:
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly