Author Topic: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?  (Read 21729 times)

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Offline William Wallace

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #360 on: March 02, 2024, 02:18:55 AM »
Just a couple of things to correct and highlight here WW.

JaJ's did not stay near to the path for 16yrs. She only moved to EH (Easthouses) when she was 14yrs old, stayed there until her 16th yr then returning to stay at her former home which was the grans house. She did not attend the local school, no friends in the area, had no reason in that brief time to learn of the RDP. She knew not the names of any paths, knew of a path behind the school, not familiar with the path itself. We can see the gran knew which path and that Jodi's mother had knowledge of it also.

[Name removed]'s on the other hand, same as her sister was not brought up in EH, moved there around 10/11yrs old. Still stayed frequently at the grans (her former home) thus in contact with friends in the area. Also did not attend the local high school. We know she learnt of the RDP via LM, of his home being located on the Newbattle side of it. And as above, her mothers clear knowledge of it, the isolation, placing a ban therefore on her younger daughter using it alone.

As before I will  place this question. Did LM make claim to being in hysterics? AW, SK, Ambulance crew, police arrival, make any claims to him being in hysterics? We can see DF picked this up from her 1st account, we can see it was clarified in later accounts as to who was in hysterics. Reality is both JaJ's with her gran, both screaming hysterically. SK retching, females shaking, SK freaking out on the phone. We can see clearly why it was accepted that not "everyone" was in a hysterical state.

We also see clearly that 99.9% of original statements were adopted as evidence in court. As in, no denial in place of what was said at the time into following accounts.

We could forever and a day debate around opinions, ones perceptions around memory of all witnesses. That is fair enough, it is however refreshing to see that self interest route being quashed bit by bit. How morally wrong it was to place focus by way of deception upon Jodi's direct family. They did nothing wrong, they told the truth, which we can now see clearly. 

Therefore the two main points you make are both wrong, did not have direct knowledge, familiar with that path, was not brought up in the area. That the "hysterics" was as she stated firmly wrong, that not everyone was, least of all LM who made no claim himself to being in such a state.

One last thing, I touched on this elsewhere. Might it be best to apply some logic around reality of the facts one does know. Such as two people being closely connected to the victim, both her sister and her gran. The difficulties that must have unfolded whilst given testimony, knowing and being led into reliving that awful night, the massive trauma they suffered as a result. As with SK also, he may not have known the girl a very long time, but he certainly was reliving that horror/trauma also. Which might just explain somewhat the fight to not have some memories, they may have tried to blank out, until having to again.  - Just a thought.

So she hadn't been there 16 years, so in the 2-3 years she did live 300 yards from the path are you telling me she had never heard it mentioned at school by anyone or other locals and never been told by her mother not to go up there, or ever heard her mother tell Jodi not to go up the path?? Even if she supposedly had never been up there, her mother would still have told her there's a path up there into the woods - don't ever go up there on your own. You are saying her mother warned her younger daughter not to go up there when she was about 10 but didn't warn her older daughter who was about 14 not to go up it? So Janine at age 14-16 never heard her mother telling Jodi not to go up that path? A warning for the 10 year old but nothing for the 14 year old? That just wouldn't happen. No parent warns one child and not the other. This is the problem with this case - people bending reality to make it fit.

So JuJ knew the path, Ovens knew the path, Jodi knew the path and he who cannot be named knew the path and was even seen following Jodi very near the path, but for some reason JaJ has never heard of the path? I mean honestly, seriously, keep it real.

What's your explanation for F and D being up there at the alleged time of the murder but not remembering what they were doing?
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