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Offline misty

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« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2016, 06:34:50 PM »
The reporter was directly quoting the words of a source close to the parents Misty.

So they spoke with Margaret Beckett before they started on DM?

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2016, 08:00:26 PM »
"Regular calls" Misty (Express).
He pleaded with her to try to "improve the way the investigation and the search were being handled" (Book).
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Offline misty

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« Reply #122 on: March 15, 2016, 08:42:42 PM »
"Regular calls" Misty (Express).
He pleaded with her to try to "improve the way the investigation and the search were being handled" (Book).

Is there proof of those regular calls in the phone records before she was replaced? ( A yes or no will suffice)

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #123 on: March 15, 2016, 10:00:16 PM »
Is there proof of those regular calls in the phone records before she was replaced? ( A yes or no will suffice)
Problem is most top level calls have number redacted Misty.

Offline misty

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« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2016, 10:18:48 PM »
Problem is most top level calls have number redacted Misty.

Do I need to look to see if there is evidence of that?

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #125 on: March 15, 2016, 10:33:21 PM »
Do I need to look to see if there is evidence of that?
You won't find the numbers of TB MB GB and DM Misty they are missing.
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Offline pegasus

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« Reply #126 on: March 15, 2016, 11:11:20 PM »
(journalist to Leveson Enquiry) "the convention was that, although unidentified specifically in the article, Mr Mitchell would at times, and on his request, be referred to as a ’friend close to the McCanns’ or ’a family spokesman’ when our quotes were attributed."

Offline misty

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« Reply #127 on: March 15, 2016, 11:28:00 PM »
The calls were probably exchanged via CM's phone.

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2016, 12:16:31 AM »
The calls were probably exchanged via CM's phone.
But how would that work for CB's call on 8 May 2007? Or MB's call on 9 May 2007? CM wasn't even in Portugal. Anyway didn't he state that GB had GM's mobile number?

Offline misty

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« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2016, 12:50:55 AM »
But how would that work for CB's call on 8 May 2007? Or MB's call on 9 May 2007? CM wasn't even in Portugal. Anyway didn't he state that GB had GM's mobile number?

There were 4 redacted incoming numbers on 4/5, so no, obviously not conducted via CM's phone.
I don't know what was going on, what GM's connections were. Maybe Jon Corner was right - the story wasn't really about Madeleine, but if so, then no amount of speculation is going to provide us with information which is classified. Perhaps the truth of the case really is stranger than fiction, yet it doesn't explain the actions of so many in Luz.

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2016, 01:10:18 AM »
There were 4 redacted incoming numbers on 4/5, so no, obviously not conducted via CM's phone.
I don't know what was going on, what GM's connections were. Maybe Jon Corner was right - the story wasn't really about Madeleine, but if so, then no amount of speculation is going to provide us with information which is classified. Perhaps the truth of the case really is stranger than fiction, yet it doesn't explain the actions of so many in Luz.
On 23 May trip to Fatima CM was in car with them but the 2 top level calls from UK were direct to GM mobile.
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Offline pegasus

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« Reply #131 on: March 17, 2016, 03:54:50 PM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_107.jpg
On 23 May the first call from Chancellor of Exchequer is the one at 10:16 10:28 (14 minutes long).
Second call from same is either the one at 14:21 (5 minutes long) or the one at 14:59 (14 minutes long).
(edited to correct time of first call)
« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 04:29:03 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

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« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2016, 04:16:59 PM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA_VOD/OA_11_VOD_Page_107.jpg
On 23 May the first call from Chancellor of Exchequer is the one at 10:16 (14 minutes long).
Second call from same is either the one at 14:21 (5 minutes long) or the one at 14:59 (14 minutes long).

You don't think it's a call from the British Ambassador/his office?

Offline pegasus

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« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2016, 04:27:43 PM »
You don't think it's a call from the British Ambassador/his office?
(BTW I've corrected the time of the first call to 10.28).
The 23 May 10:28 call with redacted number is definitely from the Chancellor of Exchequer Misty.
GM received this call just before arrival at the Fatima shrine.
Have you not read the account by KM? It's a truthful and valuable source.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 04:35:02 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

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« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2016, 04:47:17 PM »
(BTW I've corrected the time of the first call to 10.28).
The 23 May 10:28 call with redacted number is definitely from the Chancellor of Exchequer Misty.
GM received this call just before arrival at the Fatima shrine.
Have you not read the account by KM? It's a truthful and valuable source.

I've just dug it out & read the relevant page (I just looked at Pamalam before), and, yes, Kate does say that Gerry received a call of support from GB seconds before they arrived at the Fatima shrine, so 10.28 fits. Somehow I doubt that GB would ring again that day. It was CM's first full day - maybe he had been busy setting up contacts, maybe some were calls from the British Ambassador re. meeting the following day.