Author Topic: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?  (Read 11008 times)

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2021, 02:54:39 PM »

Rittenhouse Trial Day 5: Alleged Victim Gaige Grosskreutz Implodes, Admits Had Glock Pointed At Kyle When Shot, Lied to Police About It

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-trial-day-5-alleged-victim-gaige-grosskreutz-implodes-admits-had-glock-pointed-at-kyle-when-shot-lied-to-police-about-it/
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2021, 03:13:02 PM »

The evidence & details of the case are all shown in this short video.

Murder or Self Defence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkTnQfjRvk0

Members, I ask your verdict?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2021, 04:26:43 PM »
It was testified by a prosecution witness that the first decedent, Joseph Rossenbaum, threatened to kill Rittenhouse & others if he got them alone that night.

He later proceeds to ambush Rittenhouse pursue him across the car lot, his final words as testified by another prosecution witness were 'f..k you' as he lunged at the defendant who shot him 4 times in under 1 second.

He had been perusing Rittenhouse toward a group of protesters armed with poles & bats, so he had little option but to use force to stop the impending assault.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2021, 10:59:37 AM »
Kyle Rittenhouse's trial is the most bizarre court proceeding ever caught on camera


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-kyle-rittenhouse-trial
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2021, 11:32:03 AM »
OK, I shall bite as I know you're desperate for someone to join in.
I only have one question your honor and it is this:
Why did Kyle Rittenhouse go out on the streets with a lethal weapon that day?
That is all. 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2021, 11:40:46 AM »
OK, I shall bite as I know you're desperate for someone to join in.
I only have one question your honor and it is this:
Why did Kyle Rittenhouse go out on the streets with a lethal weapon that day?
That is all.

He & a group of others went to protect a car lot, they had even been given keys to the building by the owner.

(P.S, I'm not trying to bite, I'm just interested in other peoples opinions, I like lethal force/self defence cases)

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2021, 11:42:48 AM »
There were a lot of other people there with guns, both protestors & people protecting property.

A group of armed civilians were protecting a petrol station, which the first decedent attempted to push a burning dumpster toward.

A man in clothes similar to Kyle's put out the dumpster fire, Rosenbaum (the first decedent, convicted paedophile, girlfriend abuser & suicidal bipolar sufferer who was shouting the N word at a Black Lives protest) became enraged when this happened, because blowing up petrol stations = Racial equality or something.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2021, 11:53:09 AM »
So he had set himself up as a vigilante then?  I suppose in America this is all perfectly acceptable, I'm just glad it isn't here.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2021, 11:54:51 AM »
So he had set himself up as a vigilante then?  I suppose in America this is all perfectly acceptable, I'm just glad it isn't here.

No, there's no evidence of that.

There is evidence of him offering people first aid & putting out fires though.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2021, 12:15:06 PM »
No, there's no evidence of that.

There is evidence of him offering people first aid & putting out fires though.
The evidence is the big eff-off gun he was carrying. 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2021, 12:26:34 PM »
The evidence is the big eff-off gun he was carrying.

Other people were carrying big guns too, they didn't get attacked so didn't need to shoot anyone.

It's an open carry state, you have to display your firearm (incidentally Grosskreutz, who had his arm blown off, was carrying concealed without a permit & wasn't charged).

It's if you point the gun at someone there becomes an issue.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2021, 12:51:36 PM »
The maximum sentence for underage possession of a firearm is 9 months.

He was remanded for 2 months already & he has no previous convictions.

This is going to sting many people but it's undeniable he had the right to stop people attacking him.

Being underage with a gun does not disqualify a person from using that gun in self defence.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2021, 12:58:39 PM »

They had to throw out the charge of violating a curfew because no lawful order of a curfew had been made.

He would have only got a $200 fine & if they fined him they'd have to fine all the witnesses in fairness.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2021, 01:05:25 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2021, 01:10:48 PM »
The Gas station incident with Rosenbaum & the flaming dumpster.

https://youtu.be/tkTnQfjRvk0?t=158
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or Self Defence?
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2021, 01:43:47 PM »
Other people were carrying big guns too, they didn't get attacked so didn't need to shoot anyone.

It's an open carry state, you have to display your firearm (incidentally Grosskreutz, who had his arm blown off, was carrying concealed without a permit & wasn't charged).

It's if you point the gun at someone there becomes an issue.
Other people carrying guns were acting as vigilantes too.  You don’t HAVE to shoot and kill people to be a vigilante IMO.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly