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Miss Taken Identity:
--- Quote from: Davel on April 11, 2020, 12:23:44 PM ---there is proof...scientific proof that smoking causes lung cancer...again your ignorance is astonishing...you dont appear to undestand scientific principles at all
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There is NO Proof it causes cancer. Cancer from smoking can aggregate underlying sometimes unknown/diagnosed factors. If it was the primary cause then everyone who smoked would get lung cancer and as the evidence showns not all people who smoke die of lung cancer.
In am not advocating smoking is good for you- quite the opposite!
Medicine has advanced in some areas. We can now track types of cancer but not always the initial cause of it. and for those who want to know more about cancer we are all made up of Bactria and water, including cancers. something triggers off fatal cancer growths.
None of my family drink alcohol, my grandfather died of liver cancer-at his diagnosis-he was told by his doctor he must be lying about not drinking! The post mortem showed up non alcoholic damage!
Mr Gray:
--- Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on April 11, 2020, 12:46:28 PM ---
There is NO Proof it causes cancer. Cancer from smoking can aggregate underlying sometimes unknown/diagnosed factors. If it was the primary cause then everyone who smoked would get lung cancer and as the evidence showns not all people who smoke die of lung cancer.
In am not advocating smoking is good for you- quite the opposite!
Medicine has advanced in some areas. We can now track types of cancer but not always the initial cause of it. and for those who want to know more about cancer we are all made up of Bactria and water, including cancers. something triggers off fatal cancer growths.
None of my family drink alcohol, my grandfather died of liver cancer-at his diagnosis-he was told by his doctor he must be lying about not drinking! The post mortem showed up non alcoholic damage!
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you obviously dont understand science....or logic. There is proof. That doesnt mean every lung cancer is caused by smoking.
the following is an accepted fact..
People who smoke cigarettes are 15 to 30 times more likely to get lung cancer or die from lung cancer than people who do not smoke.
so what is causing this 15 to 30 times increase ......cigarrettes perhaps
Road accidents are often caused as a direct result of drink driving...drink driving causes deaths....do you agree with that...but not every drunk causes a death...do you understand now
Miss Taken Identity:
--- Quote from: Davel on April 11, 2020, 12:53:41 PM ---you obviously dont understand science....or logic. There is proof. That doesnt mean every lung cancer is caused by smoking.
the following is an accepted fact..
People who smoke cigarettes are 15 to 30 times more likely to get lung cancer or die from lung cancer than people who do not smoke.
so what is causing this 15 to 30 times increase ......cigarrettes perhaps
Road accidents are often caused as a direct result of drink driving...drink driving causes deaths....do you agree with that...but not every drunk causes a death...do you understand now
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You can invent your theory. I have claimed smoking is not the PRIMARY cause of lung cancer. If it was all those who smoked would get it and die from it.
The drink driving is just pathetic analog. But we can look at it.
10 drunk drivers driving at 100 miles an hour hit a pedestrian- who is clashed against a brick wall= instant death
all of them die of injuries caused by drunk driver= primary cause.
100 people smoke 40 cigarettes per day for 35 years... do all 100 die from lung cancer? No.because it is NOT a primary cause.
As I have said before it depends on the condition of the lungs at birth and other environmental factors- smoking could probably be attributed to exaggerating the lung condition and cause premature death.
Mr Gray:
--- Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on April 11, 2020, 04:09:22 PM ---You can invent your theory. I have claimed smoking is not the PRIMARY cause of lung cancer. If it was all those who smoked would get it and die from it.
The drink driving is just pathetic analog. But we can look at it.
10 drunk drivers driving at 100 miles an hour hit a pedestrian- who is clashed against a brick wall= instant death
all of them die of injuries caused by drunk driver= primary cause.
100 people smoke 40 cigarettes per day for 35 years... do all 100 die from lung cancer? No.because it is NOT a primary cause.
As I have said before it depends on the condition of the lungs at birth and other environmental factors- smoking could probably be attributed to exaggerating the lung condition and cause premature death.
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I dont see youve mentioned the term primary cause before this post so you are now backtracking and making things up...
smoking causes cancer...fact
drink driving causes deaths on the road...fact
That doesnt mean everyone who smokes will get cancer and not every drink driver will cause death
Miss Taken Identity:
--- Quote from: Davel on April 11, 2020, 04:23:10 PM ---I dont see youve mentioned the term primary cause before this post so you are now backtracking and making things up...
smoking causes cancer...fact
drink driving causes deaths on the road...fact
That doesnt mean everyone who smokes will get cancer and not every drink driver will cause death
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there is proof...scientific proof that smoking causes lung cancer...again your ignorance is astonishing...you dont appear to undestand scientific principles at all
There is NO Proof it causes cancer. Cancer from smoking can aggregate underlying sometimes unknown/diagnosed factors. If it was the primary cause then everyone who smoked would get lung cancer and as the evidence showns not all people who smoke die of lung cancer.
In am not advocating smoking is good for you- quite the opposite!
Medicine has advanced in some areas. We can now track types of cancer but not always the initial cause of it. and for those who want to know more about cancer we are all made up of Bactria and water, including cancers. something triggers off fatal cancer growths.
None of my family drink alcohol, my grandfather died of liver cancer-at his diagnosis-he was told by his doctor he must be lying about not drinking! The post mortem showed up non alcoholic damage!
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