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Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #555 on: December 03, 2021, 10:03:03 PM »
I'm aware of that, but why call it a "reconstitution" in English? lol

To emphasise the fact that it shouldn't be confused with the reconstructions used for appeal purposes.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #556 on: December 04, 2021, 12:20:14 AM »
Taken from Websleuths and certainly worth a watch.  This guy (no idea who he is) seems to be describing a certain someone to a tee, and this was back in 2007

https://youtu.be/IdMZluF6Qcc
Thanks for that VS
Yet another heartbreaking example of missed opportunity here.

Madeleine could have been just a few hundred yards away from where she disappeared but by 9th of June the Portuguese police still hadn't carried out a house to house inquiry to eliminate the possibility.

Who Police Should Target In Madeleine Hunt - 09 June 2007
The trail seems to have gone cold, but police in Portugal continue to search for missing Madeleine McCann. Former Scotland Yard detective Supt Michael Hames talked to Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt about the most likely lines of inquiry.


The perpetrator was most likely local or lived within a 5Klm radius and had already offended against children.

The Policia Judiciaria just did not carry out an adequate investigation into Madeleine's disappearance - and that was obvious from early days.
Present investigations into the "scapegoat" who fitted the profile back then and who fits it even more so with the passage of time tends to point to that.

In line with the topic ~ I think the question "Why now?" really should be "Why not then?"



"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Why now?
« Reply #557 on: December 04, 2021, 11:00:57 AM »
Not to have done house to house is appalling.   When Madeleine wasn't found on the night of 3rd of May,  straight away alarm bells should have rang and straight away the area should have been red alert,  going house to house is a basic part of Police policy.   Check al Paedophhiles in the area,  top priority.   Someone knocked on CB's door got no answer and didn't go back!!!   Did they know he was a Paedophile?    They should have.   Then the phone list,  his number was on that list yet it wasn't investigated.   Amaral was too busy immersed in his theory that the McCann's were guilty.  Just ordinary Police work would have maybe if CB is the man responsible,  have found who was responsible IMO.  For gods sake a Paedophile who scarpers to another area of Portugal then goes back to Germany just after Madeleine disappears how much of a alarm bell do you need.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #558 on: December 04, 2021, 12:13:56 PM »
Not to have done house to house is appalling.   When Madeleine wasn't found on the night of 3rd of May,  straight away alarm bells should have rang and straight away the area should have been red alert,  going house to house is a basic part of Police policy.   Check al Paedophhiles in the area,  top priority.   Someone knocked on CB's door got no answer and didn't go back!!!   Did they know he was a Paedophile?    They should have.   Then the phone list,  his number was on that list yet it wasn't investigated.   Amaral was too busy immersed in his theory that the McCann's were guilty.  Just ordinary Police work would have maybe if CB is the man responsible,  have found who was responsible IMO.  For gods sake a Paedophile who scarpers to another area of Portugal then goes back to Germany just after Madeleine disappears how much of a alarm bell do you need.

I wonder how many houses are in PdL? Door to door enquiries were made at 443 of them, so house to house visits were carried out.

Known paedophiles were investigated.

Huge resources were committed.

I find it unfair and inexcusable to constantly accuse the Portuguese of inadequacy. Especially when the inadequacy of parental care and supervision is constantly excused and/or ignored. Is a fair balanced view of the disappearance too much to expect?

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Offline Lace

Re: Why now?
« Reply #559 on: December 04, 2021, 12:35:39 PM »
I wonder how many houses are in PdL? Door to door enquiries were made at 443 of them, so house to house visits were carried out.

Known paedophiles were investigated.

Huge resources were committed.

I find it unfair and inexcusable to constantly accuse the Portuguese of inadequacy. Especially when the inadequacy of parental care and supervision is constantly excused and/or ignored. Is a fair balanced view of the disappearance too much to expect?


Obviously CB a known Paedophile was not investigated he was allowed to skip back to Germany,  even though his phone number was on the list and showed he was in the vicinity of the Ocean Club at the time Madeleine disappeared

Why bring up parental care?   It doesn't matter how Madeleine disappeared whether the parents were there or not Madeleine deserved to have a well organised investigation,  too many things were overlooked IMO

Offline Brietta

Re: Why now?
« Reply #560 on: December 04, 2021, 01:13:11 PM »
Not to have done house to house is appalling.   When Madeleine wasn't found on the night of 3rd of May,  straight away alarm bells should have rang and straight away the area should have been red alert,  going house to house is a basic part of Police policy.   Check al Paedophhiles in the area,  top priority.   Someone knocked on CB's door got no answer and didn't go back!!!   Did they know he was a Paedophile?    They should have.   Then the phone list,  his number was on that list yet it wasn't investigated.   Amaral was too busy immersed in his theory that the McCann's were guilty.  Just ordinary Police work would have maybe if CB is the man responsible,  have found who was responsible IMO.  For gods sake a Paedophile who scarpers to another area of Portugal then goes back to Germany just after Madeleine disappears how much of a alarm bell do you need.

Mrs Fenn - the flat directly above No5 - was not visited.

Mr & Mrs Moyes - the flat directly above that  - were not visited.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Why now?
« Reply #561 on: December 04, 2021, 01:34:37 PM »

Obviously CB a known Paedophile was not investigated he was allowed to skip back to Germany,  even though his phone number was on the list and showed he was in the vicinity of the Ocean Club at the time Madeleine disappeared

Why bring up parental care?   It doesn't matter how Madeleine disappeared whether the parents were there or not Madeleine deserved to have a well organised investigation,  too many things were overlooked IMO

Surely if the children were not left alone the risk of harm is reduced considerably. If there was an abduction between 9:15 and 10pm it certainly would not have happened if the parents were there, imo.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why now?
« Reply #562 on: December 04, 2021, 01:40:38 PM »

Obviously CB a known Paedophile was not investigated he was allowed to skip back to Germany,  even though his phone number was on the list and showed he was in the vicinity of the Ocean Club at the time Madeleine disappeared

Why bring up parental care?   It doesn't matter how Madeleine disappeared whether the parents were there or not Madeleine deserved to have a well organised investigation,  too many things were overlooked IMO

Once again CB is described as a known paedophile, despite no evidence that he was known. Nor is it known if or when he returned to Germany. There were many unknown phone numbers on those lists and all of them made calls on 2nd, 3rd or 4th May.

With adequate care Madeleine could have been protected. You prefer to ignore that but it's relevant whether you like it or not. The PJ's investigation was as good as it could be and it's not the only one that hasn't found answers; some with more resources than those in Portugal.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why now?
« Reply #563 on: December 04, 2021, 01:55:28 PM »
Surely if the children were not left alone the risk of harm is reduced considerably. If there was an abduction between 9:15 and 10pm it certainly would not have happened if the parents were there, imo.

I agree.. But there are more factors involved.  I'm not looking to make excuses for them but they believed it was an incredibly safe place.. But it wasn't.  There seems to have been s lot of unreported crime... It seems the apartments were regularly burgled.. A place wher criminals felt they could get away with things

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why now?
« Reply #564 on: December 04, 2021, 02:00:21 PM »
Once again CB is described as a known paedophile, despite no evidence that he was known. Nor is it known if or when he returned to Germany. There were many unknown phone numbers on those lists and all of them made calls on 2nd, 3rd or 4th May.

With adequate care Madeleine could have been protected. You prefer to ignore that but it's relevant whether you like it or not. The PJ's investigation was as good as it could be and it's not the only one that hasn't found answers; some with more resources than those in Portugal.

You seem to want to ignore the PJs failings. The PJ failed massively when they were there in the days after the crime and missed opportunities.
Was it Granged idea for the McCann's to do the TV appeal in Germany.  If it was then they deserve a lot of credit if the case is solved.  The pj don't do appeals... A bunch if fools

Online Wonderfulspam

Re: Why now?
« Reply #565 on: December 04, 2021, 02:00:24 PM »
I agree.. But there are more factors involved.  I'm not looking to make excuses for them but they believed it was an incredibly safe place.. But it wasn't.  There seems to have been s lot of unreported crime... It seems the apartments were regularly burgled.. A place wher criminals felt they could get away with things

No child abductions though
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Why now?
« Reply #566 on: December 04, 2021, 02:14:18 PM »
No child abductions though
And no children falling of a sofa and dying... In fact that doesn't seem to have happened anywhere in the world.. Ever

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why now?
« Reply #567 on: December 04, 2021, 02:16:25 PM »
Once again CB is described as a known paedophile, despite no evidence that he was known. Nor is it known if or when he returned to Germany. There were many unknown phone numbers on those lists and all of them made calls on 2nd, 3rd or 4th May.

With adequate care Madeleine could have been protected. You prefer to ignore that but it's relevant whether you like it or not. The PJ's investigation was as good as it could be and it's not the only one that hasn't found answers; some with more resources than those in Portugal.
So do you think alleged parental neglect excuses the PJ for their poor performance then?
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Online Wonderfulspam

Re: Why now?
« Reply #568 on: December 04, 2021, 02:26:57 PM »
And no children falling of a sofa and dying... In fact that doesn't seem to have happened anywhere in the world.. Ever

Murders happen a lot though.
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Offline Lace

Re: Why now?
« Reply #569 on: December 04, 2021, 03:44:26 PM »
Once again CB is described as a known paedophile, despite no evidence that he was known. Nor is it known if or when he returned to Germany. There were many unknown phone numbers on those lists and all of them made calls on 2nd, 3rd or 4th May.

With adequate care Madeleine could have been protected. You prefer to ignore that but it's relevant whether you like it or not. The PJ's investigation was as good as it could be and it's not the only one that hasn't found answers; some with more resourcetorys than those in Portugal.


Didn't he tell the Portuguese  Police he had history of child abuse?

Amaral was only interested in the McCann's phone calls.

A man was entering apartments and getting into bed with children and the parents were in the apartment,  he could have taken one of those children.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pictures-prove-portuguese-police-knew-22378521

It is now clear police failed to trace, interview and eliminate a local child sex offender.

"Had they done so, Brueckner would have been flagged up as a significant person of interest and potential forensic evidence obtained from his campervan.
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