British History Matters!

[faithlilly]

I dont condone anyone carrying them but there is a far higher incidence of knife crime amongst black youths.....confirmed by the senior policeman today.

In London, agreed but in the rest of the country that’s not so. It is however a far more complex issue than Hurley is claiming. Why target Afro Caribbean single mothers ? Isn’t that rather simplistic?

[Miss Taken Identity]

You are quite eager to pin labels on others but baulk at having them applied to you.

You are either a racist or a non racist. There is no other option. If you treat everyone equally then you are a non racist, is that what you are ?

I do not baulk, I have no reason to.

 I have not pinned labels on anyone. BLM are using their race to commit all sorts of crimes So, if the  gown fits ...


Anyone who knows me knows I am not a racist in the true meaning of the word as I explained that earlier, according to the left wing/Marxist/Stalinist movement I am very much a racist by their own little version of the meaning of the word.

I would say the baulking is more akin to you and your movement- hate being called out on anything. Hate having people see right through your label of 'friendly socialist who loves everyone- except 'white privileged'

Are we allowed to call black privately educated millionaires and  billionaires 'black privileged'.


ahh reminds me of another socialist movement- loved everyone except Jews... Hmm AH  Yes, National Socialism - Germany.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Very true in Britain many other races do experience racism but it is not racist for BLM to want to bring attention to the racism targeted at them.  Hurley wasn’t silenced, he was cut off as many guests are when it is either the top of the hour or they have to go to an ad break. Of course it would be a good start for all youths to abandon the knife carrying culture that seems to be so prevalent now...or do you condone white youths carrying them ?

It is racism to attack white police officers because they are white! There is no getting away from that .

[Miss Taken Identity]

'We've got into a vicious circle with police officers dealing with young black people, who always come to the perspective that the police are trying to suppress them.

'And the police very quickly come to learn that dealing with young black people is quite frankly aggravation that puts their careers and mortgages at risk.

'That's the reason why so many black youth are killing each other in London, because the police have given up trying to stop them carrying knives and guns and killing each other.'

Ain’t it the truth.

Either the black community wants the help of the police in attempting to stop knife crime and should stop shouting “racist” when police stop and search black youth, or they don’t and instead let their children continue killing each other unimpeded by officers of the law.  Which is it to be?

Very good post and very true!

[faithlilly]

I do not baulk, I have no reason to.

 I have not pinned labels on anyone. BLM are using their race to commit all sorts of crimes So, if the  gown fits ...


Anyone who knows me knows I am not a racist in the true meaning of the word as I explained that earlier, according to the left wing/Marxist/Stalinist movement I am very much a racist by their own little version of the meaning of the word.

I would say the baulking is more akin to you and your movement- hate being called out on anything. Hate having people see right through your label of 'friendly socialist who loves everyone- except 'white privileged'

Are we allowed to call black privately educated millionaires and  billionaires 'black privileged'.


ahh reminds me of another socialist movement- loved everyone except Jews... Hmm AH  Yes, National Socialism - Germany.

So you’re a racist...just not in the true meaning...noted.

No point in discussing the concept of white privilege with you because again like Stalinism you obviously don’t understand it.

[faithlilly]

Very good post and very true!

Ahhh isn’t it lovely seeing two opponents bond over a spot of racial stereotyping. Group hug.

[Wonderfulspam]

So you’re a racist...just not in the true meaning...noted.

No point in discussing the concept of white privilege with you because again like Stalinism you obviously don’t understand it.

Taxes, bills, goods & services cost me the same as it does to a black, asian or hispanic guy & I still haven't received any white privilege cheques in the mail.

[faithlilly]

Taxes, bills, goods & services cost me the same as it does to a black, asian or hispanic guy & I still haven't received any white privilege cheques in the mail.

No cheques...just better terms and conditions.

[Wonderfulspam]

No cheques...just better terms and conditions.

Such as?

Everyone has the same rights, freedoms & opportunities in this country & in the U.S.

There are black doctors, police officers, politicians celebrities, sports men & women etc etc.

If anything blacks are over represented in media & sports here in the UK considering they make up only 3% of the population.

[faithlilly]

Such as?

Everyone has the same rights, freedoms & opportunities in this country & in the U.S.

There are black doctors, police officers, politicians celebrities, sports men & women etc etc.

If anything blacks are over represented in media & sports here in the UK considering they make up only 3% of the population.

Ask any black doctor, police officer or politician and they will tell you that it’s been twice as difficult for them to attain the position they have than if they’d been white. Read the research.

And while blacks may be over represented in sport that’s not down to equal rights but raw talent. You ask any of those sports stars if they had to deal with racism growing up and what do you think the answer will be ? Why do you think we have to have the Kick It Out campaign in football ? Have you heard the racist chants directed a black players ?

As to everyone having the same freedoms, rights and opportunities in this country you tell that to a disabled person of any colour.

[faithlilly]

Black Met police officer.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/15/black-police-officer-met-institutionally-racist-bame-officers

[Wonderfulspam]

Ask any black doctor, police officer or politician and they will tell you that it’s been twice as difficult for them to attain the position they have than if they’d been white. Read the research.

And while blacks may be over represented in sport that’s not down to equal rights but raw talent. You ask any of those sports stars if they had to deal with racism growing up and what do you think the answer will be ? Why do you think we have to have the Kick It Out campaign in football ? Have you heard the racist chants directed a black players ?

As to everyone having the same freedoms, rights and opportunities in this country you tell that to a disabled person of any colour.

We have the kick it out campaign in football because football fans are notoriously drunken racist thugs.

We don't have a need for similar campaigns in cricket or tennis for example. You'd think that would be needed if racism is so widespread. But it isn't.

Are black disabled people exempt from disability benefits? I never knew that. That does sound pretty racist.

[Venturi Swirl]

Matthew Syed in today’s ST making EXACTLY the point I was making but which was soundly ignored by our resident BLM supporter, in favourof a cheap ad hom insult.

“The most high-profile policy associated with Black Lives Matter is to “defund the police”, but this only zeroes in on the problem. Because nobody is talking about the structure of inequality, only its symbolism, the “solutions” are incoherent. Studies have shown that when police are absent from high-crime neighbourhoods, black people suffer most. A study by Roland Fryer, a black Harvard academic, found that in the aftermath of social media campaigns condemning police departments, officers were less proactive in tackling criminals, fearing they might end up on the wrong end of a judgment call. The result? A thousand extra murders over two years, the majority of victims black”.

[faithlilly]

We have the kick it out campaign in football because football fans are notoriously drunken racist thugs.

We don't have a need for similar campaigns in cricket or tennis for example. You'd think that would be needed if racism is so widespread. But it isn't.

Are black disabled people exempt from disability benefits? I never knew that. That does sound pretty racist.

Not sure the point your making with your first comment. Are you saying that the millions of football fans in this country are all racist thugs ?

Your second comment to my disabled point makes even less sense. It is interesting though that you seem to conflate disability and benefits. Do you believe that that is the only freedom or opportunity disabled people should expect?

[Wonderfulspam]

Not sure the point your making with your first comment. Are you saying that the millions of football fans in this country are all racist thugs ?

Your second comment to my disabled point makes even less sense. It is interesting though that you seem to conflate disability and benefits. Do you believe that that is the only freedom or opportunity disabled people should expect?

No, just that there are racist football fans, but that doesn't prove the existence of any 'white privilege'.

And black disabled people aren't discriminated against by any system any more than white disabled people are.

I've never seen any 'white only' stair lifts or wheelchair ramps.