Author Topic: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case  (Read 33871 times)

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Offline barrier

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1170 on: November 26, 2021, 09:07:55 AM »
You are making an assumption and presenting it a fact.. Briettas quote is a newspaper report and out of context.  In real life Wolters has, said he has concrete evidence that CB murdered Maddie.  He also says he now has sufficient evidence to charge... That implies, hes collected more since his initial announcement


The onus is on Wolters and his team, no charges or even questioning means he's not convinced.

Criminal law
As criminal proceedings in Germany are not adversarial, but apply the principle of official investigation (see Question 18), it is the court and the prosecutor that have to provide evidence both against and in favour of the accused.
In a criminal trial the standard of proof is similar to the one in civil matters: the court must be convinced beyond reasonable doubt. The benefit of any doubt goes to the accused.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1171 on: November 26, 2021, 09:36:31 AM »
The statements by Wolters are evidence... If you understand what evidence is

Not evidence of use in court.
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Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1172 on: November 26, 2021, 11:50:25 AM »
Exactly, there is nothing to link CB apart from him supposedly being in Luz, (so were others )and his mate saying CB confessed in a bar, maybe Wolters needs to get CB pissed to get him to talk.

I wish you would desist from making assumptions you simply cannot substantiate, unless you have a direct line to the heart of the current investigation which I don't think you do.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1173 on: November 26, 2021, 11:55:08 AM »
It may or may not be supported by evidence, but not by any evidence publicly available. Unless you count the pronouncements of Wolters as evidence, that is.

You do know this is an ACTIVE police investigation ?????  Oh well ~ maybe not 👀
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1174 on: November 26, 2021, 12:32:45 PM »

The onus is on Wolters and his team, no charges or even questioning means he's not convinced.

Criminal law
As criminal proceedings in Germany are not adversarial, but apply the principle of official investigation (see Question 18), it is the court and the prosecutor that have to provide evidence both against and in favour of the accused.
In a criminal trial the standard of proof is similar to the one in civil matters: the court must be convinced beyond reasonable doubt. The benefit of any doubt goes to the accused.

You are again posting your opinion as fact and are wrong.
No charges... No questioning because although Wolters has enough evidence for both he feels he can get more.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1175 on: November 26, 2021, 12:35:37 PM »
Not evidence of use in court.

You posted...



It may or may not be supported by evidence, but not by any evidence publicly available. Unless you count the pronouncements of Wolters as evidence, that is.


It is supported by evidence.. Not evidence that could br used in court but evidence none the less.

Offline barrier

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1176 on: November 26, 2021, 05:28:15 PM »
You are again posting your opinion as fact and are wrong.
No charges... No questioning because although Wolters has enough evidence for both he feels he can get more.


He needs more.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1177 on: November 27, 2021, 12:22:13 PM »

He needs more.

Opinion as fact again.. What he has said is that he has enough to prosecute but would like more.  Thats the reality

Offline jassi

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1178 on: November 27, 2021, 12:59:38 PM »

He needs more.

Indeed if he has enough to charge he wouldn't feel the need for more.  IMO
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Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1179 on: November 27, 2021, 01:20:47 PM »
Indeed if he has enough to charge he wouldn't feel the need for more.  IMO

I don't know how the Germans do it, but the CPS prefer to prosecute those cases they think will be convicted.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1180 on: November 27, 2021, 01:26:27 PM »
I don't know how the Germans do it, but the CPS prefer to prosecute those cases they think will be convicted.

In the German system they say a suspect is guilty, then ask anyone who ever knew the suspect to come forward with second hand confessions & vague implications.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1181 on: November 27, 2021, 01:34:04 PM »

Then when he is charged & put to trial a judge tells the defendant that he's read all the dreadful stories about what an awful person he is & so there really is no doubt he must be guilty & he doesn't need to see any evidence further.

Then the McCanns write another book.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1182 on: November 27, 2021, 01:52:00 PM »
Then when he is charged & put to trial a judge tells the defendant that he's read all the dreadful stories about what an awful person he is & so there really is no doubt he must be guilty & he doesn't need to see any evidence further.

Then the McCanns write another book.
You appear to have completely run out of anything remotely sensible to say. 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1183 on: November 27, 2021, 02:00:50 PM »
You appear to have completely run out of anything remotely sensible to say.

I wasn't aware I was obliged to take the alleged abduction seriously.

When was that supposed to start & who ordered such?
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #1184 on: November 27, 2021, 02:18:09 PM »
I wasn't aware I was obliged to take the alleged abduction seriously.

When was that supposed to start & who ordered such?
You're not obliged to do anything, just as I am not obliged to treat your posts with anything other than the contempt they richly deserve.
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