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Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #795 on: August 20, 2021, 10:28:50 PM »
Not to those peacefully sleeping in the room imo.

Really?  and you know this how?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #796 on: August 20, 2021, 10:46:38 PM »
Really?  and you know this how?

It's my opinion.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #797 on: August 20, 2021, 10:52:20 PM »
It's my opinion.
not a particularly valid one IMO.  How noisy are the shutters when opened slowly and carefully?  Do you know?  How much noise do they make inside a room if the windows are closed when the shutters are raised?  Do you know that? 
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Offline Lace

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #798 on: August 21, 2021, 09:09:08 AM »
Noisy shutters;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3R4p2hRXvY

Corroborated by a witness;

We used to open the blinds during the day, returning to close them at night. When the blinds were [being] closed they would make much noise.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm


PM was manually pulling them up,  would they make that much noise if the shutters were risen from inside 5a?

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #799 on: August 21, 2021, 12:24:37 PM »

PM was manually pulling them up,  would they make that much noise if the shutters were risen from inside 5a?

I'm not an expert on these shutters, I only have experience of German wooden shutters which didn't have that metallic rattle, and, being heavier, offered more security imo.


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Offline Eleanor

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #800 on: August 21, 2021, 12:51:47 PM »

We have the same Portuguese Shutters here.  And I never hear anyone pulling them up or down.

Nor did anyone hear anyone breaking into the Bar down the road back along.

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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #801 on: August 21, 2021, 01:01:48 PM »
We're reduced to arguing about opinions, which are obviously going to differ.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #802 on: August 21, 2021, 01:06:48 PM »
We're reduced to arguing about opinions, which are obviously going to differ.

My comment isn't Opinion.  It's Fact.

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #803 on: August 21, 2021, 03:20:07 PM »
My comment isn't Opinion.  It's Fact.

I'm sure it is - for you. I expect the same is true for Portuguese residents. Not neccessarily for those unused to the sound though.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #804 on: August 21, 2021, 03:26:16 PM »
I'm sure it is - for you. I expect the same is true for Portuguese residents. Not neccessarily for those unused to the sound though.

Three sleeping children do you mean?

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #805 on: August 21, 2021, 04:36:05 PM »
I'm not an expert on these shutters, I only have experience of German wooden shutters which didn't have that metallic rattle, and, being heavier, offered more security imo.




Those look exactly like the wooden venetian blinds I used to have ~ great on a particular type of window as here but I would never have thought of them as shutters.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #806 on: August 21, 2021, 07:54:07 PM »
Those look exactly like the wooden venetian blinds I used to have ~ great on a particular type of window as here but I would never have thought of them as shutters.

The ones pictured look a bit flimsy. Ours were very heavy; you wouldn't have been able to lift them from outside.
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Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #807 on: August 21, 2021, 08:32:50 PM »
The ones pictured look a bit flimsy. Ours were very heavy; you wouldn't have been able to lift them from outside.

Mine were of course interior and being wood were certainly heavier than aluminium ones.  Those illustrated are exterior mounted I think although I'm not sure what the weather would do to the 'strings'.

I would imagine that there will be few of the Portuguese type in existence now.  As well as giving shade I think they would have to go for security as well.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #808 on: August 21, 2021, 09:44:07 PM »
Mine were of course interior and being wood were certainly heavier than aluminium ones.  Those illustrated are exterior mounted I think although I'm not sure what the weather would do to the 'strings'.

I would imagine that there will be few of the Portuguese type in existence now.  As well as giving shade I think they would have to go for security as well.

I think the 'strings' are made of steel, and the wood is seasoned. German efficiency of course.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #809 on: August 22, 2021, 03:57:52 AM »
No single abductor left 5A with Madeleine through the shuttered window. IMO, and that of others who have measured them, it's a nigh impossible task.