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Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #840 on: August 23, 2021, 01:17:42 PM »
Someone is getting agitated...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15940617/ex-madeleine-mccann-cop-blames-parents/
Katie Davis
11:25, 23 Aug 2021Updated: 11:54, 23 Aug 2021
THE ex-cop who led the Madeleine McCann investigation before being fired has blamed her parents for her disappearance as he claimed suspect Christian B is innocent.

Shameless Goncalo Amaral has repeatedly made unfounded allegations that Gerry and Kate McCann killed their daughter - and has now insisted he believes the kidnapping was "only simulated".

The retired detective led the initial hunt when three-year-old Madeleine went missing from the Ocean Club holiday complex in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007, and made her devastated parents official suspects.

He was removed as head of the investigation after criticising British detectives and claiming they were only following leads the McCanns asked them to pursue.

Amaral has remained outspoken on the case, and has now claimed prime suspect Christian B had "nothing to do with Maddie's disappearance" in an interview with BILD for the documentary, The Maddie McCann Case.

"It wouldn't be the first time a case has been solved by constructing a suspect," he told the outlet.


"The main culprits for the disappearance are those who had custody: the parents.

"The German public prosecutor shouldn't keep saying that he has something against (Christian B) in his hand.

"Then accuse him! Take him to court! And explain to me how someone broke into the apartment without leaving fingerprints or gloves!"

Amaral has also wildly claimed he believes the crime scene was faked.

"To this day I have no doubt that a kidnapping was only simulated," he told BILD.

"The signs of this: a window that no one could tell for sure whether it was open or closed. We were told that the alleged kidnapper climbed in and out of there.

"There were fingerprints of the mother showing that she opened the window. They were the only ones that were found."

But prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has dismissed Amaral's claims, branding them "completely irrelevant".

"We are not interested in the opinion of a Portuguese ex-police officer," he said.

"We assume that he does not have our files.

"Therefore, his conclusions are completely irrelevant."

LEGAL BATTLE
Amaral previously released a book three days after the case was closed in 2008 called The Truth Of The Lie in which he cruelly alleged the McCanns faked Maddie's abduction to cover their tracks after she had been accidentally killed.

And he later took part in a documentary for Portuguese television in which he claimed that Madeleine was dead, there had been no abduction and the McCanns had hidden her body.

Gerry and Kate launched a legal battle against the ex-cop for his slurs in book after losing a case on appeal.

They lodged a fresh case at the European Court of Human Rights in 2017.

It comes after shocking photos revealed the “secret cellar lair” suspect Christian B dug underneath his German home.

Cops swooped on the rundown house in central Germany where the convicted paedophile had lived after the current tenant raised the alarm.

Christian B had lived at the home on the outskirts of Braunschweig when he ran a kiosk in the city between 2013 and 2016.

We are not interested in the opinion of a Portuguese ex-police officer. His conclusions are completely irrelevant.

Hans Christian Wolters
While living there he is said to have illegally dug a 10ft deep pit.

It was reported last year a pal of Christian B’s had claimed he wanted to build a dungeon, complete with soundproof walls, “like the guy in Austria,” in a disturbing reference to the evil Josef Fritzl.

There is no evidence though that he actually followed through with the idea.

German officials are continuing to compile evidence against Christian B, who became the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance in June 2020.

They believe the toddler was murdered.

Christian B branded the investigation against him as “scandalous” in a letter penned from his cell in May.

In the letter he claimed the public prosecutor had “brought shame to the legal system”.

He has constantly refused to speak to the cops or investigators about Maddie’s disappearance.


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The original interview with Bild is behind a paywall.
https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/news/ausland/news-ausland/vorwuerfe-vom-ex-kripochef-maddies-entfuehrung-wurde-simuliert-77460112,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html#remId=1684228635530202683%3FjsRedirec

Blah blah blah! More incorrect stories and blatent speculation from the Sun.

Amaral has never alleged that they killed their daughter, and a simulated kidnapping is not a new suggestion.

Clearly Amaral isn't (as some have suggested) keeping quiet, he's quite happy to speak out still. The ball is firmly in Wolter's court to uphold his accusations of murder against CB.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #841 on: August 23, 2021, 01:36:11 PM »
I would accept possible with an accomplice but not placing her down outside from the inside by one person. Well technically it’s possible but highly unlikely imo and furthermore there was no evidence to support this scenario.

Why incidentally do you believe talk of jemmied shutters were reported by friends and family of Madeleine?
I don't know and I don't really care - it's entirely irrelevant IMO and almost certainly down to a misunderstanding on the part of the teller or the told when recounting events.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #842 on: August 23, 2021, 01:37:54 PM »
Blah blah blah! More incorrect stories and blatent speculation from the Sun.

Amaral has never alleged that they killed their daughter, and a simulated kidnapping is not a new suggestion.

Clearly Amaral isn't (as some have suggested) keeping quiet, he's quite happy to speak out still. The ball is firmly in Wolter's court to uphold his accusations of murder against CB.
He's alleged they over-sedated her which led to her accidental death - that would be manslaughter would it not?
Meaning of manslaughter in English
the crime of killing a person when the killer did not intend to do it or cannot be responsible for his or her actions:
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #843 on: August 23, 2021, 01:38:24 PM »
You can if the round pig's circumference is small enough.
Like a piglet.
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Offline misty

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #844 on: August 23, 2021, 03:16:06 PM »
Blah blah blah! More incorrect stories and blatent speculation from the Sun.

Amaral has never alleged that they killed their daughter, and a simulated kidnapping is not a new suggestion.

Clearly Amaral isn't (as some have suggested) keeping quiet, he's quite happy to speak out still. The ball is firmly in Wolter's court to uphold his accusations of murder against CB.

We will all be able to hear exactly what he said on the upcoming Bild documentary.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #845 on: August 23, 2021, 03:20:29 PM »
Blah blah blah! More incorrect stories and blatent speculation from the Sun.

Amaral has never alleged that they killed their daughter, and a simulated kidnapping is not a new suggestion.

Clearly Amaral isn't (as some have suggested) keeping quiet, he's quite happy to speak out still. The ball is firmly in Wolter's court to uphold his accusations of murder against CB.

What is he saying... CB is a patsy and the mccanns are responsible for maddies disappearance.... Cant you see thst none of thst is libel

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #846 on: August 23, 2021, 03:51:12 PM »
We will all be able to hear exactly what he said on the upcoming Bild documentary.
I hope the McCanns sue him all over again.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #847 on: August 23, 2021, 04:13:27 PM »
I hope the McCanns sue him all over again.

He may well know that if the McCanns are successful at the ECHR they can ask for the original case to be opened again.... And yet some posters think the ECHR case is nothing to do with Amaral

Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #848 on: August 23, 2021, 04:41:12 PM »
Blah blah blah! More incorrect stories and blatent speculation from the Sun.

Amaral has never alleged that they killed their daughter, and a simulated kidnapping is not a new suggestion.

Clearly Amaral isn't (as some have suggested) keeping quiet, he's quite happy to speak out still. The ball is firmly in Wolter's court to uphold his accusations of murder against CB.

Amaral has stopped accusing the parents but im not surprised you cant see it. All he says re the parents here is that the parents were responsible for her disappearance... That could be argued is true as they left the children alone

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #849 on: August 23, 2021, 04:50:02 PM »
Amaral has stopped accusing the parents but im not surprised you cant see it. All he says re the parents here is that the parents were responsible for her disappearance... That could be argued is true as they left the children alone
He’s openly accused them of faking an abduction.  I think he’s not very bright, especially when you look at the evidence he puts forward for the supposed fake abduction. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #850 on: August 23, 2021, 05:25:24 PM »
Madeleine McCann suspect evaded police by ‘not being at home’
June 07 2020, 12.00pm
The chief suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance was not questioned by police at the time because he was not at home when detectives called, the former head of the investigation has indicated.

He had fled to the Algarve from Germany in 1995 to avoid prosecution for child abuse offences. German police began investigating Brückner over Madeleine’s disappearance in 2019 after his conviction for raping a 72-year-old American woman near Praia da Luz in 2005, roughly 20 months before Madeleine went missing.

The former detective admitted his own failings in initially treating Madeleine’s disappearance “as if something had been stolen”. “The investigation should have been more comprehensive, like a murder: securing biological traces, fibres, hair,” he said. “That was a mistake.”

Amaral, 61, told Bild that Brückner “has nothing to do with Maddie’s disappearance”. He has previously claimed that Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, both 53, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were suspects.

Madeleine McCann went missing in June 2007, aged three
Madeleine McCann went missing in June 2007, aged three

ALAMY

“The German prosecutor should not keep claiming that he has something on Brückner,” he said. “Then charge him. Take him to court. And explain to me how someone broke into the flat without leaving fingerprints or traces of gloves. That way it only serves the construction, so people will say: what a monster this Brückner is.”

Yesterday Hans Christian Wolters, a German prosecutor involved in Bruckner’s case, criticised the “very time-consuming requests” for information from Portugal.

“We still do not wish to comment on Mr Amaral’s statements because we assume that [he] has no knowledge of the current state of the investigation and that his statements are therefore completely irrelevant to us,” he said.

“I do not believe there is the slightest hint of suspicion against the McCann parents. The investigations are still continuing. I do not want to give any details about exactly which investigations are currently taking place.

“Unfortunately, the investigations cannot be speeded up, in particular due to the mandatory but very time-consuming requests for legal assistance to Portugal.”

Friedrich Fülscher, Brückner’s lawyer, declined to comment, as did the McCanns.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #851 on: August 23, 2021, 05:29:03 PM »
A comment under the article in the Times which sums up my feelings exactly

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Eliza D
11 MINUTES AGO

Excuse my French but Mr Amaral sounds like an absolute tit.

He is just deflecting from his own damning failings. The truth is if competent police officers had been involved from the very start I am certain this case would have been solved by now, if not back in 2007.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #852 on: August 23, 2021, 05:31:21 PM »
The former detective admitted his own failings in initially treating Madeleine’s disappearance “as if something had been stolen”. “The investigation should have been more comprehensive, like a murder: securing biological traces, fibres, hair,” he said. “That was a mistake.”
No mate, that wasn’t a mistake, it was professional incompetence of the highest order.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #853 on: August 23, 2021, 05:33:20 PM »
So he admits they fked up the forensics and then says there’s no evidence of an abduction.   Dimmer than a 20 watt bulb that man IMO.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline barrier

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #854 on: August 23, 2021, 06:25:54 PM »
What is he saying... CB is a patsy and the mccanns are responsible for maddies disappearance.... Cant you see thst none of thst is libel

The case isn't even considered a noteworthy pending on the echr site with others being communicated back in 2017 being as such, there's a long wait yet imo.
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