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Offline Angelo222

Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« on: April 10, 2013, 09:46:00 AM »
Shrien Dewani, accused of murdering wife Anni to shield his closet gay double life is scheduled to have his mental condition reviewed tomorrow 11 April 2013 ahead of the main Extradition hearing on 1 July 2013.

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« Last Edit: April 10, 2013, 09:48:18 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Admin

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 09:00:29 AM »
Alleged wife killer Shrien Dewane will also be making a court appearance in London today. This is to review his mental state after spending months at a psychiatric hospital. Dewani is still fighting against being extradited to South Africa to stand trial for the 2010 murder of Anni. Three men whom Dewani allegedly paid to stage a hijacking and kill his wife in Khayelitsha, Cape Town, are serving sentences.

Dewani’s extradition hearing is expected to begin on July 1, depending on today's findings.

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Offline Luz

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 05:00:15 PM »
If he has money he will probably go from there to India for a rest.

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 10:20:36 PM »
Aaaawww he is depressed! Who wouldn't be depressed facing a premeditated murder charge in South Africa! Sent the killer back to face the music I say!

Offline Luz

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 10:28:54 PM »
In his case he probably never expected to be caught, after choosing such a script, but it went wrong because South Africa is not the same as 10 or five years back.

But there are some psychos that actually enjoy being in the news - those are the ones that I fear.

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Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 12:50:26 PM »
London, April 11, 2013 - Shrien Dewani's health has improved enough for his extradition proceedings to go ahead, the Westminster Magistate's Court heard today.

Magistrate Howard Riddle ruled proceedings will resume after a lengthy hiatus, starting with a hearing next month to review the legal arguments of both the defence and the prosecution.

Barring a set-back, the five-day extradition hearing will begin on July 1.

Dewani is accused of masterminding his wife Anni's murder, under the guise of a botched hijacking, while the couple were on honeymoon in Cape Town in November 2010.

He has been receiving treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and depression at Blaise View rehabilitation since December 2012, spokesperson Simon Gerard confirmed yesterday.

Staff at the facility would not comment on Dewani's health or state of mind.

Dewani was diagnosed with PTSD shortly after he was implicated in the crime by two of the three men convicted of kidnapping, robbing and murdering Anni.

"He (Dewani) has improved and improved significantly," prosecution representative Ben Watson QC was quoted telling the court by the BBC.

But the defence maintains Dewani isn't fully recovered.

http://www.enca.com/information-south-africa/dewani-well-enough-extradition-hearing-resume
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Offline allesklar

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 10:10:33 AM »
There are several big question marks hanging over Dewani's alleged mental health:

(1) At his initial extradition hearing, evidence in the form of a joint statement was accepted by the court from two supposedly independent psychiatrists - Professor Nigel Eastman hired by the defence, and Professor Michael Kopelmann hired by the prosecution. It was discovered a year later, that these two supposedly independent expert witnesses had formed a business partnership a fortnight before their statement was presented, and further, that they did not declare that relationship to the court. At that time the Crown prosecution Service promised to investigate, but strangely, the CPS have since primly asserted that there is no confllict of interest that they can see, and The Sun newspaper has mysteriously pulled its report on the subject published 1st September 2012.
The Sun's decision to pull the story is itself interesting, because the article contained nothing except information which is on the Government public record at Companies House.

(2) In hearings since then, it has been Dewani's TREATING psychiatrist, Paul Cantrell, who has provided all evidence regarding his mental health. There is an inherent conflict of interest between the duty of a treating psychiatrist, and that of a forensic psychiatrist, well-attested in the professional literature, yet there is no hint in the current court proceedings that such a distinction has been recognised, let alone provided for.

(3) The police evidence which forms the case which Dewani is asked to answer, strongly suggests that Dewani was never actually in the traumatic situation which he claims as the cause of his "PTSD". The diagnosis offered to the courts is entirely based on Dewani's self-reported symptoms, which are remarkably convenient to his case, and when challenged by the presiding judge the psychiatrist experts agreed, that no objective tests for malingering had been done.

(4) An acknowledged expert on PTSD and depression, Professor Michael Simpson, has written several articles in which he severely criticises the validity of the diagnosis, and asks pertinent questions of the legal process being followed.
Here's one of those articles:
http://www.health24.com/Columnists/Dewani-start-from-scratch-20130210

So we should await with interest the upcoming July 2013 hearing, and trust that all the above issues will eventually be dealt with, fully and transparently.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 02:26:26 PM by allesklar »
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Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 04:43:49 PM »
There are several big question marks hanging over Dewani's alleged mental health:

(1) At his initial extradition hearing, evidence in the form of a joint statement was accepted by the court from two supposedly independent psychiatrists - Professor Nigel Eastman hired by the defence, and Professor Michael Kopelmann hired by the prosecution. It was discovered a year later, that these two supposedly independent expert witnesses had formed a business partnership a fortnight before their statement was presented, and further, that they did not declare that relationship to the court. At that time the Crown prosecution Service promised to investigate, but strangely, the CPS have since primly asserted that there is no confllict of interest that they can see, and The Sun newspaper has mysteriously pulled its report on the subject published 1st September 2012.
The Sun's decision to pull the story is itself interesting, because the article contained nothing except information which is on the Government public record at Companies House.

(2) In hearings since then, it has been Dewani's TREATING psychiatrist, William Cantrell, who has provided all evidence regarding his mental health. There is an inherent conflict of interest between the duty of a treating psychiatrist, and that of a forensic psychiatrist, well-attested in the professional literature, yet there is no hint in the current court proceedings that such a distinction has been recognised, let alone provided for.

(3) The police evidence which forms the case which Dewani is asked to answer, strongly suggests that Dewani was never actually in the traumatic situation which he claims as the cause of his "PTSD". The diagnosis offered to the courts is entirely based on Dewani's self-reported symptoms, which are remarkably convenient to his case, and when challenged by the presiding judge the psychiatrist experts agreed, that no objective tests for malingering had been done.

(4) An acknowledged expert on PTSD and depression, Professor Michael Simpson, has written several articles in which he severely criticises the validity of the diagnosis, and asks pertinent questions of the legal process being followed.
Here's one of those articles:
http://www.health24.com/Columnists/Dewani-start-from-scratch-20130210

So we should await with interest the upcoming July 2013 hearing, and trust that all the above issues will eventually be dealt with, fully and transparently.

Excellent post Allesklar; very informative.

Since when in the history of the World has it mattered if a defendant is depressed when facing a murder charge! Obviously mental illness is another matter but we all know this closet gay boy is just swinging the lead and, as many court cases recently have proved, you can get an 'expert' to say anything depending on who is paying the piper!

Everyone knows Dewani is malingering to try and avoid trial and facing the overwhelming evidence that he is a premeditated murderer. He has a lot to be depressed about; he got caught. Let's get some justice for poor innocent Anni and get this s..mbag on a plane sharpish!

Offline allesklar

Re: Pre-Extradition Hearing 11 April 2013
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 02:28:51 PM »
I've just noticed and corrected a mistake in my post - Dewani's treating psychiatrist is Paul Cantrell, not William Cantrell.
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