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Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #240 on: June 30, 2016, 09:44:27 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on June 30, 2016, 09:41:14 PM
Why don't you tell us the answer you will be happy with and save all this messing around?
an answer which actually addresses the question posed will suffice, thanks for your rude interjection.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2016, 10:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Alfie on June 30, 2016, 09:44:27 PM
an answer which actually addresses the question posed will suffice, thanks for your rude interjection.

You're welcome, never seen such mobile goalposts.
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Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #242 on: June 30, 2016, 10:36:37 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on June 30, 2016, 10:13:34 PM
You're welcome, never seen such mobile goalposts.
Perhaps you could explain your comment, with some examples?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #243 on: July 01, 2016, 12:10:37 AM »
Quote from: Alfie on June 30, 2016, 09:34:23 PM
Your answer above does not relate to the questions I asked.

You have yourself have ably demonstrated the answer to your question. The individuals would have kept a search alive, including requesting reviews etc,  so individuals like you could use that as a reason for believing that they were not guilty. Clever huh?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #244 on: July 01, 2016, 12:21:34 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 30, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
You know the evidence so far collected was not enough to bring charges so requesting a review of that same evidence would almost certainly throw up no new evidence against you. What wasn't predicted is that funding for a new investigation  would be made available.

Risky.

Too risky had someone committed murder or some dreadful deed

No one could be sure that a new investigative force wouldn't find new evidence
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Offline mercury

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #245 on: July 01, 2016, 12:31:46 AM »
Quote from: sadie on July 01, 2016, 12:21:34 AM
Risky.

Too risky had someone committed murder or some dreadful deed

No one could be sure that a new investigative force wouldn't find new evidence

Not at all, there are many many cases throughout history where no or no sufficient or direct evidence was found
All you need is a confident intellgent perpetrator and bobs your uncle

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Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #246 on: July 01, 2016, 08:14:37 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on July 01, 2016, 12:10:37 AM
You have yourself have ably demonstrated the answer to your question. The individuals would have kept a search alive, including requesting reviews etc,  so individuals like you could use that as a reason for believing that they were not guilty. Clever huh?
Why do these people care what I think, and why risk their freedom on it?  Far better to allow people like you and me to lose interest in the whole affair by slinking off into obscurity safe in the knowledge that there is no evidence against them.  That makes far more sense to me, if not to you.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #247 on: July 01, 2016, 08:36:29 AM »
Quote from: Alfie on July 01, 2016, 08:14:37 AM
Why do these people care what I think, and why risk their freedom on it?  Far better to allow people like you and me to lose interest in the whole affair by slinking off into obscurity safe in the knowledge that there is no evidence against them.  That makes far more sense to me, if not to you.
Scenario getting sillier by the moment.

Parents dispose of their child's body, and get fame and fortune in the process.  Why would they continue to seek fame and fortune?  Hmm, let me think about that.  Could it be - more fame and fortune?
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Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #248 on: July 01, 2016, 10:04:19 AM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on July 01, 2016, 08:36:29 AM
Scenario getting sillier by the moment.

Parents dispose of their child's body, and get fame and fortune in the process.  Why would they continue to seek fame and fortune?  Hmm, let me think about that.  Could it be - more fame and fortune?
And you don't think that's silly?  How does asking the PM for a police review guarantee them more fame and fortune and minimise the opportunity for spending the rest of their lives in prison?  It is quite possible to seek fame and fortune without enlisting the help of government and police as I have pointed out before.  You could for example appear on Celebrity Big Brother, open your home to OK and Hello every few months, release an exercise DVD, run for mayor, have an affair with a famous actor, launch a brand of perfume, become a chat show host, etc etc etc, none of which involves putting your future liberty into the hands of the police.
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Offline Lace

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #249 on: July 01, 2016, 10:07:50 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on June 30, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
You know the evidence so far collected was not enough to bring charges so requesting a review of that same evidence would almost certainly throw up no new evidence against you. What wasn't predicted is that funding for a new investigation  would be made available.

Is that why they asked for the case to be opened then?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #250 on: July 01, 2016, 10:29:28 AM »
Quote from: Alfie on July 01, 2016, 10:04:19 AM
And you don't think that's silly?  How does asking the PM for a police review guarantee them more fame and fortune and minimise the opportunity for spending the rest of their lives in prison?  It is quite possible to seek fame and fortune without enlisting the help of government and police as I have pointed out before.  You could for example appear on Celebrity Big Brother, open your home to OK and Hello every few months, release an exercise DVD, run for mayor, have an affair with a famous actor, launch a brand of perfume, become a chat show host, etc etc etc, none of which involves putting your future liberty into the hands of the police.
Sorry, but this has gone from silly to farcical.

The couple could appear on Celebrity Big Brother?  Honestly?  What would the inmates talk about? That sounds truly ghastly.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #251 on: July 01, 2016, 10:32:11 AM »
Quote from: Alfie on July 01, 2016, 10:04:19 AM
And you don't think that's silly?  How does asking the PM for a police review guarantee them more fame and fortune and minimise the opportunity for spending the rest of their lives in prison?  It is quite possible to seek fame and fortune without enlisting the help of government and police as I have pointed out before.  You could for example appear on Celebrity Big Brother, open your home to OK and Hello every few months, release an exercise DVD, run for mayor, have an affair with a famous actor, launch a brand of perfume, become a chat show host, etc etc etc, none of which involves putting your future liberty into the hands of the police.

And don't you think laughing and joking is silly in a police negotiation operation with a possible abductor? 
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Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #252 on: July 01, 2016, 10:38:23 AM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on July 01, 2016, 10:29:28 AM
Sorry, but this has gone from silly to farcical.

The couple could appear on Celebrity Big Brother?  Honestly?  What would the inmates talk about? That sounds truly ghastly.
It is YOU making the claim that fame and fortune was the motivating factor.  Appearing on CBB is one route open to B and C list celebs and media personalities to pursue this.  Why is my suggestion more farcical than your suggestion that asking for a police review into their child's disappearance, thus risking their future liberty, was done to increase their fame and fortune?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #253 on: July 01, 2016, 10:39:07 AM »
Quote from: Lace on July 01, 2016, 10:07:50 AM
Is that why they asked for the case to be opened then?

They didn't ask for it to be reopened, they asked for the evidence so far to be reviewed.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Consider this scenario - Would a guilty person keep their case alive for many years?
« Reply #254 on: July 01, 2016, 10:39:17 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on July 01, 2016, 10:32:11 AM
And don't you think laughing and joking is silly in a police negotiation operation with a possible abductor?
Sorry, where in my scenario does this fit in?
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