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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #735 on: May 06, 2019, 10:54:44 PM »
“The journalist Louise Shorter, who heads up the Inside Justice investigative unit, was commissioned by Panorama to look at the case. Shorter had been aware of concerns over the safety of the conviction since working on another BBC programme, Rough Justice in the 1990s.

‘If a case lands on my desk involving gunshot residue, I would ask how much was there and would it pass today’s standards?’ she told the Justice Gap yesterday. ‘Since the Barry George and Dwaine George cases, the guidance to forensic scientists as to how they put across the evidence to juries has changed significantly: anything less than four particles of this particular type of gunshot residue and then a red flag should go up straightaway.’

Barry George’s conviction was quashed in the same year that Kevin Lane’s legal team made a third application to the CCRC. It was overturned followed a referral by the CCRC after a Panorama investigation identified concerns about a single speck on George’s coat which had convinced the jury that murdered Jill Dando. It was Cardiff Law School that identified the vulnerability of the gunshot residue evidence in the Dwaine George case as reported on the Justice Gap (here). The CCRC referred that case on the grounds there was ‘a real possibility’ the evidence of gunshot residue ‘does not now attract the value attributed to it at trial, and therefore does not support the identification evidence’. That conviction was quashed in 2014.
https://www.thejusticegap.com/unmanageable-workloads-and-substandard-investigations-that-fail-to-put-right-miscarriages-of-justice/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #736 on: May 07, 2019, 07:02:25 AM »
“The journalist Louise Shorter, who heads up the Inside Justice investigative unit, was commissioned by Panorama to look at the case. Shorter had been aware of concerns over the safety of the conviction since working on another BBC programme, Rough Justice in the 1990s.

‘If a case lands on my desk involving gunshot residue, I would ask how much was there and would it pass today’s standards?’ she told the Justice Gap yesterday. ‘Since the Barry George and Dwaine George cases, the guidance to forensic scientists as to how they put across the evidence to juries has changed significantly: anything less than four particles of this particular type of gunshot residue and then a red flag should go up straightaway.’

Barry George’s conviction was quashed in the same year that Kevin Lane’s legal team made a third application to the CCRC. It was overturned followed a referral by the CCRC after a Panorama investigation identified concerns about a single speck on George’s coat which had convinced the jury that murdered Jill Dando. It was Cardiff Law School that identified the vulnerability of the gunshot residue evidence in the Dwaine George case as reported on the Justice Gap (here). The CCRC referred that case on the grounds there was ‘a real possibility’ the evidence of gunshot residue ‘does not now attract the value attributed to it at trial, and therefore does not support the identification evidence’. That conviction was quashed in 2014.
https://www.thejusticegap.com/unmanageable-workloads-and-substandard-investigations-that-fail-to-put-right-miscarriages-of-justice/

Errors plague the criminal justice system

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQ6kReMLdw

Since then, the same errors (either in combination or individually) have occurred in well-reported cases such as R v. Clark (Forrest 2003, Hill 2005), R v. George (Fenton et al. 2013a), and R v. de Berk (Meester et al. 2007). Although the original bad use of statistics in each case (presented by forensic or medical expert witnesses without statistical training) was exposed through good use of statistics on appeal, it is the bad use of statistics that leaves an indelible stain. Yet the role of legal professionals (who allow expert witnesses to commit the same well-known statistical errors repeatedly) is rarely questioned.    
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-statistics-041715-033428
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #737 on: May 07, 2019, 03:36:39 PM »
Errors plague the criminal justice system

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVQ6kReMLdw

Since then, the same errors (either in combination or individually) have occurred in well-reported cases such as R v. Clark (Forrest 2003, Hill 2005), R v. George (Fenton et al. 2013a), and R v. de Berk (Meester et al. 2007). Although the original bad use of statistics in each case (presented by forensic or medical expert witnesses without statistical training) was exposed through good use of statistics on appeal, it is the bad use of statistics that leaves an indelible stain. Yet the role of legal professionals (who allow expert witnesses to commit the same well-known statistical errors repeatedly) is rarely questioned.    
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-statistics-041715-033428

Challenging claims that probability theory is incompatible with legal reasoning
https://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2019/03/challenging-claims-that-probability.html
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #738 on: May 07, 2019, 03:43:56 PM »
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #739 on: May 07, 2019, 04:31:21 PM »
David Dobbins, who was then aged 13, was also living there with his family. "He recalls the defendant showing him an imitation Heckler & Koch machine gun and a gas mask," said counsel.

"He told Susan Combe, another resident, that he collected guns and showed her a handgun and a machine pistol.

"She once went to his room and was shown a third gun which was kept in a small cardboard box. It was silver in colour, highly polished and smaller than the other two weapons she had seen."

Mr Pownall said the Dobbins family moved to a basement flat in Pelham street and one evening, there was a knock on the door.

He added: "It was the defendant, who was dressed in combat gear and wearing a balaclava.

"He entered into the hallway holding a handgun and there was a loud bang. After the initial panic resulting from his arrival had subsided, the defendant removed the balaclava and showed those present the gun.

"The defendant also took blank firing rounds of ammunition from his pocket and showed them to David Dobbins. They were gold in colour and there was no head.

"The tops of the cases were flat and covered with a coloured wax. When he left the flat he placed a hundgun in the waistband of his jeans."

In 1987/8, George was living in Crookham Road when David Dobbins, Eugene Mahoney and two other friends went to the flat and climbed in through an open window.

"The defendant was not in and they stole the blank firing pistol and imitation Heckler & Koch machine pistol," said Mr Pownall.

"It appears that they did not find the silver coloured handgun in the shoebox described by Susan Coombe.

"The present whereabouts of that gun are unknown."

Mr Dobbins was shown a number of photographs developed by police from negatives found at George's home which showed George "wearing a respirator and holding a gun".

"He identified the gun as the one he had seen used by the defendant on the occasion that he entered the Pelham Road address and discharged a blank round," said Mr Pownall.

"A firearms expert has looked at the photographs. Certain features enable him to identify it as a Bruni blank firing pistol. Part of the frame has been cut away exposing the spring mechanism.

"I told you (the jury) earlier that the gun used to kill Miss Dando had a smooth-bored barrel which had either been converted from a blank-firing pistol to one capable of firing bullets or a deactivated weapon which had been similarly converted.

"In due course, you may wish to consider why the defendant appears to have altered the structure of the Bruni pistol."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43483/Dando-killed-single-bullet.html

Interestingly 2 weeks before the murder Barry George purchased a gun SAS belt. “Only two weeks before Miss Dando's death he had bought an SAS belt.


”George attended at least three schools before settling at Northcroft juniors in Shepherd's Bush, west London. It had just opened to deal with - in the parlance of the time - "maladjusted children".

Following his parents separation, George's father remarried and emigrated to Australia. Though he moved back to Britain and now lives in Wales, he has not seen his son for 20 years. Margaret told her friends that "when he divorced me, he divorced the kids too".

Aged 14, George moved to a council boarding school for boys who had "emotional and behavioural difficulties".

Staff at Heathermount, set in 14 idyllic acres in Sunningdale, Berkshire, remembered him as a "mummy's boy" who followed one of the matrons "like a lost lamb". The less academic pupils, like George, were encouraged to concentrate on woodwork, metalwork, weaving and gardening, and to perform in ambitious theatre productions, such as La Boheme and The Mikado.

It was here that George's obsession with celebrity began to emerge, insisting to friends and teachers that they should call him Paul Gadd, Gary Glitter's real name.

"He didn't just have posters on his walls like the other kids," said one former member of staff. "He knew every movement, song and dance."

At Heathermount, George may also have had his first contact with guns. In the spring of 1972 the school built a small-bore rifle range, much against the wishes of some parents and governors. Although it closed a year later, George would have known about and probably used the facility.

George often had "funny turns", but staff were not sure whether these episodes were real or feigned. Doctors examined him on two occasions between 1974 and 1976 and concluded there was nothing wrong.

It is now accepted that George does suffer from a mild form of epilepsy, though the experts are divided about its effects. Some believe George deliberately exaggerates the condition, others claim it has caused "severe brain dysfunction"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/03/jilldando.media5
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #740 on: May 07, 2019, 04:55:34 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates claims to be able to, “definitely divorce the umm thriller from the real thing”

https://cambridge105.co.uk/bookmark-09-03-2019/ (approx 1 minute in)

Her book Stand Against Injustice suggests otherwise, as does the interview

Wonder what the police and Jill Dando’s family think about some of the claims she makes?

She appears to be taken aback by the fact one of the other authors on the show was a barrister/judge
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #741 on: May 08, 2019, 07:31:00 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

Don Hale OBE
@perryscope21
The documentary was very biased and one sided. Nothing new. No interview with Barry George and his family, no acknowledgement Campbell made a complete hash of the police inquiry and no apology to an innocent man.
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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“...undeveloped film, and a collection of cuttings about Dando.”
Is it only Hamish Campbell who doesn’t know this is a lie? Two trials both knew there were no cuttings, underlining or other markings on the magazines. Campbell saw cuttings?
(link: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/02/the-murder-of-jill-dando-review) theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2…
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
Thank you Don. No ‘right of reply’ either. They spoke with me on courtesy calls, but no warning as to the content. The only thing they did was to NOT describe Barry’s autism in disparaging terms...oddball, weirdo. They obviously couldn’t find a better word for Loner though 😡
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Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
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Apr 4
Replying to
@perryscope21
The programme shocked me, it was outrageous that they gave an ex cop, of a failed investigation a huge platform, then used leading questions to reach their objective. They knew my book outlines the flaws in the investigation, but chose to sideline that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/perryscope21/status/1113706820693102592

 *&^^&

“Don Hale, the local newspaper journalist who was awarded an OBE for helping to overturn the murder conviction of Stephen Downing, has for the first time admitted that he made mistakes during his eight-year investigation of the case.
Mr Hale, who only eight months ago completely rejected police criticisms that he had embellished evidence during his campaign to free Mr Downing, has now admitted that with hindsight he would have done things differently.
In an interview last week with The Telegraph, the former newspaper editor also tried to distance himself from Mr Downing, whose conviction for murdering Wendy Sewell in a Bakewell graveyard was quashed by the Court of Appeal on a technicality last year. After 27 years in prison he was released - because he had not been properly cautioned before making his confession.
Although he had previously insisted that Mr Downing was of impeccable character, Mr Hale agreed that revelations that the man he sought to free has an alleged history of harassing women had made things difficult for him.
Allegations by a number of women that Mr Downing had stalked or attacked them and had also made obscene telephone calls from prison were disclosed in The Telegraph; our reports were subsequently confirmed in an exhaustive police reinvestigation of Mrs Sewell's murder by Derbyshire police.
During the course of the reinvestigation, detectives established that Mr Hale had ignored many of his own notes, instead distorting information in an apparent attempt to blame others for Mrs Sewell's murder.
After consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, however, Derbyshire Police have decided that "there are no grounds on which to base any further investigation nor indeed a prosecution for any offence"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1441408/Campaigner-for-Stephen-Downing-admits-to-errors.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #742 on: May 08, 2019, 07:56:55 AM »
“Don Hale, the local newspaper journalist who was awarded an OBE for helping to overturn the murder conviction of Stephen Downing, has for the first time admitted that he made mistakes during his eight-year investigation of the case.
Mr Hale, who only eight months ago completely rejected police criticisms that he had embellished evidence during his campaign to free Mr Downing, has now admitted that with hindsight he would have done things differently.
In an interview last week with The Telegraph, the former newspaper editor also tried to distance himself from Mr Downing, whose conviction for murdering Wendy Sewell in a Bakewell graveyard was quashed by the Court of Appeal on a technicality last year. After 27 years in prison he was released - because he had not been properly cautioned before making his confession.
Although he had previously insisted that Mr Downing was of impeccable character, Mr Hale agreed that revelations that the man he sought to free has an alleged history of harassing women had made things difficult for him.
Allegations by a number of women that Mr Downing had stalked or attacked them and had also made obscene telephone calls from prison were disclosed in The Telegraph; our reports were subsequently confirmed in an exhaustive police reinvestigation of Mrs Sewell's murder by Derbyshire police.
During the course of the reinvestigation, detectives established that Mr Hale had ignored many of his own notes, instead distorting information in an apparent attempt to blame others for Mrs Sewell's murder.
After consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, however, Derbyshire Police have decided that "there are no grounds on which to base any further investigation nor indeed a prosecution for any offence"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1441408/Campaigner-for-Stephen-Downing-admits-to-errors.html

Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice. http://www.donhale.co.uk/


What’s the betting Stephen Downing was also under MAPPA, (or what ever it was called back then) upon his release from prison.

Barry George and Stephen Downing - two men with a history of violence against women both of whom had their murder convictions overturned on technicalities.


Don Hale OBE Retweeted

Brian P Willmot
@BrianWillmot
·
Mar 7
Replying to
@perryscope21
@MarkWatts_1
  You have first hand knowledge of how the Police operate, given your eventful experiences over the years. God moves in mysterious ways & your success in getting innocent people released from prison is a testament to your integrity. Thanks & good will are extended ✝️

Don Hale OBE
@perryscope21
·
Apr 8
Great job of reporting the facts Mark.
https://mobile.twitter.com/perryscope21?lang=en


 *&^^&

More on Mark Watts can be found here: https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/?s=Mark+watts+

Excerpts from Barrister Blogger blog:
As for corroboration of the allegations: there is none so far as we can tell, apart from the existence of multiple complaints, the vast majority of which even the institutionally credulous Wiltshire Police accept do not give rise even to “reasonable suspicion.” In the frantic leaking and spinning in the weeks leading up to the report it was reported that Police considered these complainants “independent” of one another. For some reason “sources close to Mike Veale” appear to have leaked a lot to Mark Watts, former boss of Exaro News, the defunct and unlamented organisation that gambled and lost all respectability through its reporting of Operation Midland.
http://barristerblogger.com/2017/10/09/operation-conifer-report-sir-edward-heath-empty-exercise-self-justification/

“Sir Richard’s report – at least the published parts of it – says comparatively little about the involvement of the media. Throughout the the whole Operation Midland saga the online scandal-site Exaro News continued to report Nick’s claims in ever more salacious detail, although carefully editing out the most absurd-sounding parts. Far from disinterestedly reporting news, Exaro’s editor in chief Mark Watts openly attacked Harvey Proctor for his “shameful” and “over the top theatrics” when he held a news conference to protest his innocence of multiple rape and murder. Apparently this “distressed” Nick.
It is unclear what Mr Watts would consider an appropriate response to being falsely accused of multiple sadistic murders, or why the victim of such an accusation should be expected to keep quiet so as not to distress his tormentor
At least Hogan-Howe has apologised for his force’s behaviour. Mr Watts has not, although thankfully the horrible company for which he worked collapsed like a cold soufflé once Operation Midland was wound up.
http://barristerblogger.com/2016/11/10/henriques-report-deputy-heads-must-roll/

And Don Hale here: https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/?s=Mark+watts+
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #743 on: May 08, 2019, 09:56:52 AM »
My doubts remain, mainly due to how it (the case) has been presented in the media and by whom it has been presented.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02n7rgj

What is Bates referring to re the Daily Mirror reporting? And from what newspapers did George win damages?

This clip is originally from 5 live Breakfast on April 1 2015 - Michelle Diskin Bates states:

“and as we can see from the umm Daily Mirrors reporting that umm there’s a whole lot of it that was never looked at at all

By Nick Dorman & Mark Williams Thomas - 31 March 2015
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dando-secret-files-revealed-5437428
Reporter 'offered to sell names of victims'
"A FORMER police officer in the Jonathan King case who is now a TV documentary reporter offered to sell the names of the pop mogul’s victims, according to a judge.
Investigative reporter Mark Williams-Thomas, who made his name in a documentary exposing Jimmy Savile, has claimed to have solved a number of high-profile cases, including the murder of TV host Jill Dando.
But yesterday his professional reputation was called into question after Judge Deborah Taylor delivered a withering assessment of his previous work for Surrey Police on the King case. Before he left the force in October 2000 Mr Williams-Thomas was the detective who interviewed the first man to accuse King of sexual assault. He was subsequently accused – and acquitted – of blackmail in an unrelated case.
Yesterday the judge said: ‘ During the investigation into that offence a document was found on his computer offering for sale names and introductions to victims of Mr King.
‘There was also information that prior to Mr King’s arrest, Williams-Thomas said that he had been provided by a journalist with information about King. Williams-Thomas left taking his contemporaneous notebooks of his involvement with inquiries into Mr King with him.
‘No attempts had been made to obtain them, although it is the Crown’s position that he should not have taken them with him as they were the property of Surrey Police.’
The judge added that it had been suggested ‘there was deliberate concealment of his previous prosecution and of the documents indicating attempts to gain financial advantage from selling details of Mr King’s case’. Yesterday Mr Williams-Thomas denied ever knowing the victims’ identities, or offering them for sale.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20180807/281732680305413

Why did Michelle Diskin Bate's & Barry George choose Mark Williams Thomas to "re-investiagate" the murder of Jill Dando?

Jonathan king
We tend to concentrate on celebrities because that's all the media assumes the public are interested in but I was fortunate to spend time in prison and learned a huge amount about ordinary people - including many, often vicars, priests or teachers, who had pleaded guilty to crimes that never took place simply because they did not want to cause further distress to the false accusers. Yes; some did it to get lesser sentences or simply to stop the horrid process (often nasty enough to cause suicide; believe me, as I stood in the dock recently and heard the horrid Cottage woman (prosecutor) spout total lies about me, without being able to speak up and deny them, I knew how ordinary people, with less thick skin, could kill themselves). But many were genuinely decent people who simply felt it was better they suffer than make the loonies, or greedies or simply deluded, suffer more. A Christian attitude. And they had nothing to gain by telling me that. In honest conversations - their lives already ruined or almost over - some in their 80s. The crimes simply never happened but why ruin someone else's life when they were only going to be alive for a few more years anyway? Often their wives and children knew and believed the truth; essentially that was all that mattered. These men didn't have the "killer instinct" I have - not for revenge but to prevent other innocent people suffering similar. They were decent, honest, honourable men. Most will now be dead. I hope I gave them comfort, friendship, understanding.
http://www.kingofhits.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,65/func,view/catid,2/id,188820/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #744 on: May 08, 2019, 12:40:12 PM »
How much do we trust academic 'experts'?
http://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-much-do-we-trust-experts_13.html

Not a whole lot! Many of the academics I came into contact with (Simon Hall era) have built their reputations on sand!

And so it goes on......  *&^^&

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0379073819301550?via%3Dihub






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Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #745 on: May 08, 2019, 01:31:37 PM »
Don Hale is undoubtedly best known for his involvement in the cases of wrongly convicted murderers Stephen Downing and Barry George who were both released after the tireless work of Don and others in over-turning a gross miscarriage of justice. http://www.donhale.co.uk/


What’s the betting Stephen Downing was also under MAPPA, (or what ever it was called back then) upon his release from prison.

Barry George and Stephen Downing - two men with a history of violence against women both of whom had their murder convictions overturned on technicalities.


Don Hale OBE Retweeted

Brian P Willmot
@BrianWillmot
·
Mar 7
Replying to
@perryscope21
@MarkWatts_1
  You have first hand knowledge of how the Police operate, given your eventful experiences over the years. God moves in mysterious ways & your success in getting innocent people released from prison is a testament to your integrity. Thanks & good will are extended ✝️

Don Hale OBE
@perryscope21
·
Apr 8
Great job of reporting the facts Mark.
https://mobile.twitter.com/perryscope21?lang=en


 *&^^&

More on Mark Watts can be found here: https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/?s=Mark+watts+

Excerpts from Barrister Blogger blog:
As for corroboration of the allegations: there is none so far as we can tell, apart from the existence of multiple complaints, the vast majority of which even the institutionally credulous Wiltshire Police accept do not give rise even to “reasonable suspicion.” In the frantic leaking and spinning in the weeks leading up to the report it was reported that Police considered these complainants “independent” of one another. For some reason “sources close to Mike Veale” appear to have leaked a lot to Mark Watts, former boss of Exaro News, the defunct and unlamented organisation that gambled and lost all respectability through its reporting of Operation Midland.
http://barristerblogger.com/2017/10/09/operation-conifer-report-sir-edward-heath-empty-exercise-self-justification/

“Sir Richard’s report – at least the published parts of it – says comparatively little about the involvement of the media. Throughout the the whole Operation Midland saga the online scandal-site Exaro News continued to report Nick’s claims in ever more salacious detail, although carefully editing out the most absurd-sounding parts. Far from disinterestedly reporting news, Exaro’s editor in chief Mark Watts openly attacked Harvey Proctor for his “shameful” and “over the top theatrics” when he held a news conference to protest his innocence of multiple rape and murder. Apparently this “distressed” Nick.
It is unclear what Mr Watts would consider an appropriate response to being falsely accused of multiple sadistic murders, or why the victim of such an accusation should be expected to keep quiet so as not to distress his tormentor
At least Hogan-Howe has apologised for his force’s behaviour. Mr Watts has not, although thankfully the horrible company for which he worked collapsed like a cold soufflé once Operation Midland was wound up.
http://barristerblogger.com/2016/11/10/henriques-report-deputy-heads-must-roll/

And Don Hale here: https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/?s=Mark+watts+

Byline – an editorial failure
Byline Media, run by Peter Jukes and contributed to by various freelance journalists was recently at the centre of the Mark Watts “boy in a boat” issues.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/byline-an-editorial-failure/
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #746 on: May 08, 2019, 04:25:11 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates:
"Becoming aware of a breaking-news story I began to listen in more closely. A siege was taking place at a farmhouse in England. The broadcaster relayed that five people were inside and there was great fear for their safety. As the story unfolded it became apparent that this was an older couple. A farmer and retired Magistrate, Nevill Bamber and his wife, June; their daughter, Sheila, and her six year old twin sons. Jeremy, their son, was outside with police who were trying to communicate with someone inside the house who had been seen pacing back and forth in front of an upstairs window and carrying a firearm. The reporter said that police were reluctant to get too close to the house for fear of causing that person to become more agitated, thereby, escalating the danger to the family. I watched for an hour or so but there was no resolution and, heavily pregnant, I became exhausted and had to go off to bed.

Another interview, another narrative - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0000t65
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Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #747 on: May 08, 2019, 08:56:09 PM »
Man made errors plaque the criminal justice system   *&^^& polluted by the contamination of confirmation bias

Appears to me because she has the likes of Dr Michael Naughton’s endorsement of her book it would give it some of credibility. It doesn’t!

Errors plague the criminal justice system

Dr Holly Greenwood
Holly’s research interests are in Criminal Justice and Criminal Procedure with a particular focus on miscarriages of justice. Her PhD was the first empirical research to examine the development and operation of innocence projects in the UK, which are university based projects where students investigate claims of alleged wrongful conviction. The research examined how innocence projects constructed and understood a “miscarriage of justice” and explored the problems and challenges which they faced. It also drew on Luhmann’s Social Systems Theory as a theoretical framework for examining this.
https://www.swansea.ac.uk/staff/law/hollygreenwood/

Read Holly Greenwood’s research on Innocent Networks UK, Dr Michael Naughton, Professor Julie Price & Dr Dennis
Eady here: https://cronfa.swan.ac.uk/Record/cronfa40034

and here https://cronfa.swan.ac.uk/Record/cronfa40032

Holly Greenwood Retweeted

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 Conference: #MOJ (link: https://www.change.org/p/rt-hon-amber-rudd-mp-home-secretary-essex-police-release-all-documents-withheld-under-pii-to-jeremy-bamber-s-legal-defence/u/21588673) change.org/p/rt-hon-amber…?

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/916597420854861824


Holly Greenwood
@HollyGreenwood8
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27 Apr 2016
Several important questions raised, my phd research will cast further light on some of these issues when complete

University innocence projects: where are they now?
Only one conviction has ever been overturned on the strength of a university innocence project’s work in the UK – what’s going on? And what’s next for these projects?
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By Jon Robins - April 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/apr/27/university-innocence-projects-where-are-they-now
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #748 on: May 08, 2019, 11:09:21 PM »
Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted

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Nobody seems to recognise... Jill’s assassination was actually CLAIMED within 3 hours of her death! And it was done 3 times over 3 days. If Mansfield had known of that first ‘misfiled’ call, Barry would likely never have gone to trial. Responsibility claimed!!! 😱
Thanks ITV 👍🏻♥️

https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1126220729568178179

 *&^^&

Hannah James
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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Barry George revisited.
« Reply #749 on: May 10, 2019, 10:46:50 AM »
Michael Bourke Uncle of Barry George stated:

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He was immediately hostile towards me. I saw red when he accused me of being a coward who used moral blackmail against him by threatening to stop the campaign and website. He was very angry over the three line letter which I had sent him. He remained hostile so I got up saying ‘I’m off, goodbye’. Unfortunately when I got to the door I couldn’t get out as I left my pass with Margaret and had to ask her to bring it. While I was waiting Margaret was engaged in an intense conversation with him. ‘If he leaves now he’ll never come back’ she said. She then called to me to come back to the table, and Barry beckoned at me to return. I relented, apologised to the friendly female prison officer and went back. Barry then apologised for ranting at me and we had some tea. The rest of the visit passed without incident but I was struck by how angry he could be. At one stage a couple of officers in dark blue uniforms entered the visiting hall and Barry said that they were the heavy mob, to deal with any aggro. He then said that he could not discuss certain matters with me as he feared that I might run to the press. I did not argue but then he said that if I did anything to damage his case he would be very angry and the anger he displayed this day would be nothing compared with what he could be like. It seemed like he was threatening me.

Intelligence or information like this is what organisations like MAPPA use to help them with risk assessments. The same would apply with regards Michelle Diskin Bates denial of her brothers dangerousness.

Stalker, rapist and sex prowler - July 2001
“THE true enormity of the crimes and perversions of Barry George can finally be disclosed following his conviction for planning and executing the murder of Jill Dando.

George was found guilty by a 10-1 majority yesterday of shooting Miss Dando, one of the most popular TV presenters of modern times, as she crouched in terror on her doorstep.

The trial judge, Mr Justice Gage, told him: "You are unpredictable and dangerous and are likely to remain so for some time to come. There can be no doubt that it was premeditated. Why you did it will never be known: it is probable that you yourself could give no rational explanation."

As the judge sentenced him to life imprisonment, George (41), raised his eyebrows and swayed slightly. Pausing only to pick up a copy of the Bible that he had kept at his side throughout the 36-day trial, he bit his lower lip hard and was led away to the cells beneath the Old Bailey.

After they had returned their verdict, the six women and five men who remained on the jury after one member was discharged looked staggered as Det Supt Hamish Campbell, who led the inquiry, outlined George's previous convictions.

Mr Campbell told the court that George had raped a woman in 1982 - he pleaded guilty to attempted rape - and that he had previous convictions for indecent assault and for impersonating a police officer.

George also raped his Japanese wife Itsuko Toide, who left him after 11 months of a marriage filled with violence and intimidation. In an interview published today, she gives a remarkable insight into the mind of a man filled with rage and hatred of women.

George met Miss Toide after she had suffered a sexual assault herself and was feeling highly vulnerable. They married after a romance lasting four months. Almost immediately he began subjecting her to a series of sexual and physical attacks at the cramped ground-floor council flat that they shared in Crookham Road, Fulham.

The jury was not allowed to know that George had a long history of stalking women in the area where Miss Dando lived, although detectives found clear evidence that he had followed at least 419 women in Fulham, taking 2,597 photographs of them.

The judge also ruled during pre-trial legal argument that the jury should not learn that George had been arrested in 1983 while prowling in the grounds of Kensington Palace, close to the private apartments of the Prince and Princess of Wales, clad in camouflage fatigues and wielding a commando knife.

Despite these revelations, George's defence team announced they were to launching an immediate appeal.

One possible ground for appeal may be the discovery that one of the prosecution witnesses, Charlotte de Rosnay, 29, was involved for a while in a relationship with a member of the murder squad, Detective Constable Peter Bartlett.

Miss Dando (37) was murdered as she arrived at her home in Fulham, southwest London, on the morning of Monday April 26, 1999.

(The Times, London)

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/stalker-rapist-and-sex-prowler-26079016.html



According to Michelle Diskin Bates her brother remains under MAPPA (23rd October 2018) 
Apparently, “being under MAPPA has seriously affected Barry’s ability to access help for his PTSD.
 


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