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Title: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: sadie on March 07, 2020, 01:24:29 AM
Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down .... Algarve daily News ....  03 March 2020


https://algarvedailynews.com/news/17733-judicial-corruption-controversy-president-of-court-of-appeal-stands-down


What does this mean?

What repercussions might there be to the Amaral v Mccann case, which Amaral won on appeal?   Could it be because of the pending ECHR judgement?  Your thoughts please.




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Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: sadie on March 07, 2020, 01:30:02 AM

https://algarvedailynews.com/news/17733-judicial-corruption-controversy-president-of-court-of-appeal-stands-down

   The algarve Daily News. 03 March 2020

Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down

Following allegations of rigging in the system of allocating judges, president of Lisbon’s Court of Appeal Orlando Nascimento has resigned with immediate effect.

A letter tendering his resignation was requested last week and reportedly received on Monday. Meantime, public prosecutors are deciding whether Judge Nascimento is to be added to the charge sheet of corruption investigation Operation Lex which has already cited his predecessor Luís Vaz Neves (click here).

Article by kind permission of The Portugal Resident
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on March 07, 2020, 08:07:59 AM
What a dodgy bunch.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: G-Unit on March 07, 2020, 09:39:27 AM
This is the ongoing saga of Judge Rui Rangel who sued Correio da Manhã. The newspaper was found not guilty in the court of the first instance, guilty in the court of appeal, and not guilty again in the Supreme Court which ordered Randel to pay the costs.

It is now widely inferred that Rangel was aided by the former president of the Court of Appeal Luís Vaz Neves, and at least one other judge (possibly two) as well as a court clerk.

Damning evidence was leaked to TVI24 (television station) via Europol, claims the station, which published a purported text-conversation between Rangel and Vaz Neves, in which the former asked the latter to ‘control the situation’ regarding the allocation of the Correio da Manhã case
https://www.portugalresident.com/judicial-uproar-as-investigation-suggests-system-of-allocating-cases-is-rigged-and-open-to-corruption/

It seems that the problem is with the Court of Appeal where this judge was helped by his fellow judges. His influence doesn't seem to have extended to the other courts as they ruled against him.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Brietta on March 07, 2020, 10:19:14 AM
This is the ongoing saga of Judge Rui Rangel who sued Correio da Manhã. The newspaper was found not guilty in the court of the first instance, guilty in the court of appeal, and not guilty again in the Supreme Court which ordered Rangel to pay the costs.

It is now widely inferred that Rangel was aided by the former president of the Court of Appeal Luís Vaz Neves, and at least one other judge (possibly two) as well as a court clerk.

Damning evidence was leaked to TVI24 (television station) via Europol, claims the station, which published a purported text-conversation between Rangel and Vaz Neves, in which the former asked the latter to ‘control the situation’ regarding the allocation of the Correio da Manhã case
https://www.portugalresident.com/judicial-uproar-as-investigation-suggests-system-of-allocating-cases-is-rigged-and-open-to-corruption/

It seems that the problem is with the Court of Appeal where this judge was helped by his fellow judges. His influence doesn't seem to have extended to the other courts as they ruled against him.

My understanding of it is that it has been possible to allocate particular judges to hear and pass judgement on the final appeals of particular cases.

That is a very serious matter indeed for the rule of law and the impartiality of the courts and in my opinion the seriousness of the situation is not unrecognised in Portugal.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: G-Unit on March 07, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
My understanding of it is that it has been possible to allocate particular judges to hear and pass judgement on the final appeals of particular cases.

That is a very serious matter indeed for the rule of law and the impartiality of the courts and in my opinion the seriousness of the situation is not unrecognised in Portugal.

The Court of Appeals isn't the final option though. Rangel was, allegedly, able to 'fix' his appeal, but he wasn't able to fix the (higher) Supreme Court outcome; it overuled the Appeal Court's judgement.

The only court involved, it seems, was the Appeal Court. Both the lower and higher courts ruled against him. It is indeed a serious matter, but it doesn't mean all the courts and all the judges are corrupt.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 07, 2020, 10:48:56 AM
The Court of Appeals isn't the final option though. Rangel was, allegedly, able to 'fix' his appeal, but he wasn't able to fix the (higher) Supreme Court outcome; it overuled the Appeal Court's judgement.

The only court involved, it seems, was the Appeal Court. Both the lower and higher courts ruled against him. It is indeed a serious matter, but it doesn't mean all the courts and all the judges are corrupt.

The fact that the appeal court is open to corruption suggests that the SC could be too
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: kizzy on March 07, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
The fact that the appeal court is open to corruption suggests that the SC could be too




Wasnt it the appeal court the mccs won to have TOTL banned - so IMO that could have been corrupt.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Brietta on March 07, 2020, 11:02:29 AM
It is very interesting as far as Rangel is concerned in relation to Madeleine McCann and her case.  He appeared to have no qualms at all about throwing his hat into the ring alongside Goncalo Amaral's when it came to pontificating as a pundit about her case on prime time television.

I would be amazed if the McCann lawyers are not having a very close look indeed at the corruption now being investigated amongst Appeal Court judges:  I would not be at all surprised if that story doesn't still have a lot more to reveal and Misty clocked that quite some time ago.
________________________________________________________________


From Misty January 2018

An interesting footnote to a political article he wrote, republished on Morais Blog in 2009
https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/state-of-affairs-again-justice.html


Note: I post this opinion, which I totally agree with, because many believe that with the change of the Portuguese Socialist party the McCann Case will have a different outcome. I don't agree with that, unfortunately we cannot rely in a left or right wing government to do Justice, nor we should, Justice as in the sense of legal Justice, should be carried out by the proper institutions and persons who were delegated and entrusted to do that specific work without any kind of political interference. The Madeleine McCann Case is no longer a case at the hands of any Police or Ministry - Portuguese or British, it's a case that is now at the hands of the Civil Society, and that means all of us. Only from the actions of concerned and proactive Citizens, in Portugal and in Britain, can the case have a different outcome than the current archival.
Expect more on this issue.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9101.msg444098#msg444098


Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: G-Unit on March 07, 2020, 11:32:26 AM



Wasnt it the appeal court the mccs won to have TOTL baned - so IMO that could have been corrupt.

I think there were several attempts, but they all failed in the end. That's why the McCanns asked again for it to be banned when the main action was heard, and the judge of the first instance complied.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 07, 2020, 11:36:20 AM



Wasnt it the appeal court the mccs won to have TOTL baned - so IMO that could have been corrupt.
from what I remember one of the judges involved in the overturning of the ban on amarals book was also involved in amarals appeal...so that raises questions
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 07, 2020, 05:52:14 PM
from what I remember one of the judges involved in the overturning of the ban on amarals book was also involved in amarals appeal...so that raises questions


What questions does this raise?

Perhaps The judge believes in Freedom of speech  rather than Protecting the Parents reputation- whatever the parents see fit to have?
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 07, 2020, 05:59:07 PM

What questions does this raise?

Perhaps The judge believes in Freedom of speech  rather than Protecting the Parents reputation- whatever the parents see fit to have?

In raises the question about how far this corruption amongst judges goes
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Admin on March 07, 2020, 06:14:48 PM
Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down .... Algarve daily News ....  03 March 2020


https://algarvedailynews.com/news/17733-judicial-corruption-controversy-president-of-court-of-appeal-stands-down


What does this mean?

What repercussions might there be to the Amaral v Mccann case, which Amaral won on appeal?   Could it be because of the pending ECHR judgement?  Your thoughts please.




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I don't see any repercussions for the McCann v Amaral case as the resignation related entirely to the appointment of judges.  It is good to see that any mischief within the judiciary in Portugal will not be tolerated.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention Sadie.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Angelo222 on March 07, 2020, 07:37:05 PM

I don't see any repercussions for the McCann v Amaral case as the resignation related entirely to the appointment of judges.  It is good to see that any mischief within the judiciary in Portugal will not be tolerated.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention Sadie.

I would add that the case you mention has been concluded and will not be reopened. The Supreme Court made their decision and ruled against the McCanns. They even conducted a legal review of that decision which remained unchanged but with the qualification that the MCCANNS HAD NOT BEEN CLEARED.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 07, 2020, 07:48:19 PM
I would add that the case you mention has been concluded and will not be reopened. The Supreme Court made their decision and ruled against the McCanns. They even conducted a legal review of that decision which remained unchanged but with the qualification that the MCCANNS HAD NOT BEEN CLEARED.

the ECHR may well rule the SC is wrong....the SC do have  a very poor record at the ECHR
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Angelo222 on March 07, 2020, 07:50:19 PM
the ECHR may well rule the SC is wrong....the SC do have  a very poor record at the ECHR

The decision was a matter for Portugal, it cannot be overturned by the ECHR.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 07, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
The decision was a matter for Portugal, it cannot be overturned by the ECHR.
It can be corrected and amaral stopped going forward
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: barrier on March 08, 2020, 08:56:09 AM
It can be corrected and amaral stopped going forward

Has there been another book and its author stopped following a ECHR judgement?
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 08, 2020, 09:04:16 AM
Has there been another book and its author stopped following a ECHR judgement?

I don't know of a previous ECHR action against a book .....do you
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: barrier on March 08, 2020, 09:24:38 AM
I don't know of a previous ECHR action against a book .....do you

So you agree there'll be no book banning,so what of the author? we'd best continue in the echr thread.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: barrier on March 08, 2020, 09:25:42 AM
https://algarvedailynews.com/news/17733-judicial-corruption-controversy-president-of-court-of-appeal-stands-down

   The algarve Daily News. 03 March 2020

Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down

Following allegations of rigging in the system of allocating judges, president of Lisbon’s Court of Appeal Orlando Nascimento has resigned with immediate effect.

A letter tendering his resignation was requested last week and reportedly received on Monday. Meantime, public prosecutors are deciding whether Judge Nascimento is to be added to the charge sheet of corruption investigation Operation Lex which has already cited his predecessor Luís Vaz Neves (click here).

Article by kind permission of The Portugal Resident

Still enjoys the presumption of innocence though.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 08, 2020, 11:00:55 AM
 
Still enjoys the presumption of innocence though.

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Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Brietta on March 08, 2020, 07:44:57 PM
Still enjoys the presumption of innocence though.

Absolutely!

That will no doubt be why he was asked to resign.
Title: Re: Judicial corruption controversy: President of Court of Appeal stands down
Post by: Mr Gray on March 08, 2020, 07:54:51 PM
the presumption of innocence is a little more complex than some posters think...hence suspects can be held on remand....and Barry George cant claim compensation even thogh hes entitled to the POI