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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: ISpyWithMyEye on April 19, 2020, 11:29:52 AM
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I think some people should see a reconstructions to help them envisage how very easy it is to disarm someone who’s holding a rifle.
Everyone knows Jeremy Bamber is guilty of murdering all his family, and he was rightly convicted.
But for those few who think it’s possible Sheila could have murdered them all they should consider this:
Firstly, Sheila was on medication to control her MH condition, which caused her to shake, tremble, walk stiffly, feel tired, listless, weak and had difficulty focussing and coordinating. Sheila was heavily tranquillised, and had never been violent to anyone in her life, nor threatened suicide.
Some people suggest Sheila had a psychotic episode, but psychotic episodes don’t make people violent. That’s a fallacy. When someone has an acute psychotic episode they lose touch with reality, become depressed, may hear voices, neglect their appearance, and studies prove that when someone is having one they almost never hurt themselves or others.
However, had Sheila woken in the early hours and felt unwell, or had some kind of panic attack, or feelings of disturbance — she wouldn’t have gently crept across the landing, searched for a gun — or “conveniently” noticed a gun just laying there, loaded — then crept upstairs to fire bullets into June and Nevill. She’d have been shouting like a maniac, screaming crazy things, and causing total mayhem is shed suddenly gone berserk — which wouldn’t have been a psychotic attack, anyway.
That did not happen. Had it, Nevill and June would have both run out their bedroom to see what was wrong.
But suppose Sheila DID quietly creep into their room, then started firing the gun...
The only person shot in that room was June, and as there was no blood of Nevill’s on the bed or bedroom carpet, that proves he’d jumped up before being shot.
Nevill was 6”4”, extremely fit from all the hard physical work he did on the farm, and in very good health. He was also ex-RAF and an experienced marksman. He was both physically and mentally strong.
As he wasn’t shot ONCE in the bedroom, that means Nevill could have, and would have, disarmed the “berserk, stumbling Sheila” who had NO experience of guns, who was weak, tiny in comparison to him, and unable to even walk properly, let alone focus, think, or put up a struggle.
Nevill could have disarmed Sheila SO easily, within two seconds as this video proves:
https://www.full30.com/watch/MDEyNjQ1/how-to-disarm-an-active-shooter---rifle-techniques
It’s ludicrous to think she was capable of committing these heinous crimes: besides being incapable she had no motive
It’s obvious that as Jeremy Bamber was a fit younger man, who craved their deaths, after shooting June first (by aiming wrong) he managed to fire four shots into Nevill on the landing by standing some way back from him as Nevill tried to come after him. Jeremy either stood at the end of the hallway in order to shoot Nevill, or he ran downstairs first and shot Nevill in the face and arm as Nevill made his way down from the top of the stairs to try and disarm Jeremy, knowing the cartridge was now empty.
https://www.full30.com/watch/MDEyNjQ1/how-to-disarm-an-active-shooter---rifle-techniques
And that’s how Jeremy managed to shoot them all...Sheila couldn’t possibly have done all that. nor would she have.
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Your link doesn’t work ISpy
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Your link doesn’t work ISpy
Thank you for that, VS!
I shall put it up again...
https://www.full30.com/watch/MDEyNjQ1/how-to-disarm-an-active-shooter---rifle-techniques
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It seems to be working my end when I click on it here 8((()*/
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It doesn’t work for me, perhaps it’s my browser at fault (Safari).
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It doesn’t work for me, perhaps it’s my browser at fault (Safari).
Try this YouTube link, same video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mL35ToUnqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mL35ToUnqs)
or the top link in Google...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+to+Disarm+an+Active+Shooter+-+Rifle+Techniques (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+to+Disarm+an+Active+Shooter+-+Rifle+Techniques)
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Due to the current activity levels on the board we need to maintain the following rule set out on the homepage:
* Posters are asked to keep to thread topics where possible
Going forward I will be removing all posts that are off topic.
Thanks.
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Due to the current activity levels on the board we need to maintain the following rule set out on the homepage:
* Posters are asked to keep to thread topics where possible
Going forward I will be removing all posts that are off topic.
Thanks.
So, you're determining if they are off topic or not? Hmmmmm!
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So, you're determining if they are off topic or not? Hmmmmm!
And spamming the threads by the looks of it?
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So, you're determining if they are off topic or not? Hmmmmm!
I've no idea what you mean?
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I've no idea what you mean?
I don’t believe you
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I've no idea what you mean?
You said you will remove posts if they are off topic, who decides that? Debates are fluid and tend to spread, but can come back again. If you stifle debate then you control it.
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Try this YouTube link, same video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mL35ToUnqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mL35ToUnqs)
or the top link in Google...
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+to+Disarm+an+Active+Shooter+-+Rifle+Techniques (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+to+Disarm+an+Active+Shooter+-+Rifle+Techniques)
I'd love to watch him try that with a non-compliant dude with an automatic paint ball gun. He'd have about 7 rounds out before he could blink.
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And spamming the threads by the looks of it?
You will recall I set up a thread to make announcements but that appears to have disappereared so how would you suggest I communicate such messages to ensure everyone is aware?
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You said you will remove posts if they are off topic, who decides that? Debates are fluid and tend to spread, but can come back again. If you stifle debate then you control it.
And she’s working behind the scenes apparently ?
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You will recall I set up a thread to make announcements but that appears to have disappereared so how would you suggest I communicate such messages to ensure everyone is aware?
Start a new thread?
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You said you will remove posts if they are off topic, who decides that? Debates are fluid and tend to spread, but can come back again. If you stifle debate then you control it.
I don't make the rules Caroline. They are set out on the Homepage. On the Blue forum threads were allowed to go all over the place. On IA it was one long rambling thread.
Vertigo Swirl has recently pointed out his/her posts have gone unanswered. It's difficult to pick up where you left off when you have to trawl through pages of off-tpoic posts.
I would also point out I don't have the authorisation to move posts around.
Any number of threads can be set up.
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Vertigo Swirl has recently pointed out his/her posts have gone unanswered. It's difficult to pick up where you left off when you have to trawl through pages of off-tpoic posts.
Difficult for who?
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I don't make the rules Caroline. They are set out on the Homepage. On the Blue forum threads were allowed to go all over the place. On IA it was one long rambling thread.
Vertigo Swirl has recently pointed out his/her posts have gone unanswered. It's difficult to pick up where you left off when you have to trawl through pages of off-tpoic posts.
I would also point out I don't have the authorisation to move posts around.
Any number of threads can be set up.
If you can delete them you should be able to move them? I understand how annoying it is when the thread gets lost but there may be some good points on the post and if you delete it, they are lost. Perhaps give the poster the chance to move first?
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I'd love to watch him try that with a non-compliant dude with an automatic paint ball gun. He'd have about 7 rounds out before he could blink.
Maybe so
But the rifle used at WHF was a semi-automatic, supposedly held by a weak, shaky woman who couldn’t focus, couldn’t walk well, had no energy or strength, couldn’t coordinate, was heavily tranquillised, the room was dark, she was half Nevill’s weight, tiny in comparison , could barely lift her arms, and didn’t know one end of a gun from the other.
Of course he could’ve disarmed her — and he tried to in the kitchen!
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Maybe so
But the rifle used at WHF was a semi-automatic, supposedly held by a weak, shaky woman who couldn’t focus, couldn’t walk well, had no energy or strength, couldn’t coordinate, was heavily tranquillised, the room was dark, she was half Nevill’s weight, tiny in comparison , could barely lift her arms, and didn’t know one end of a gun from the other.
Of course he could’ve disarmed her — and he tried to in the kitchen!
Agreed.
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I don't make the rules Caroline. They are set out on the Homepage. On the Blue forum threads were allowed to go all over the place. On IA it was one long rambling thread.
Vertigo Swirl has recently pointed out his/her posts have gone unanswered. It's difficult to pick up where you left off when you have to trawl through pages of off-tpoic posts.
I would also point out I don't have the authorisation to move posts around.
Any number of threads can be set up.
Have you got more than one account on this forum Holly ?
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Have you got more than one account on this forum Holly ?
And are you in contact with or have you been in contact with Mark Newby?
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Avoiding answering the questions could be seen as suspicious
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And are you in contact with or have you been in contact with Mark Newby?
You two need to have a word with yourselves.
Check my history through my posts. That would be an elaborate and pointless ruse of unprecedented scale.
I'm your General!
Stand to!
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Avoiding answering the questions could be seen as suspicious
You've rumbled me. The game's up.
I created this character in October last year to provide a counterpoint to my arguments, to deflect from my actual agenda.
I'm surprised it's taken you all this long, you pathetic carbon units. You have no idea the lengths I've gone to.
I always knew a simple mistake or a misconstrued post would be my downfall.
What are you going to do now, report me I suppose?
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Maybe so
But the rifle used at WHF was a semi-automatic, supposedly held by a weak, shaky woman who couldn’t focus, couldn’t walk well, had no energy or strength, couldn’t coordinate, was heavily tranquillised, the room was dark, she was half Nevill’s weight, tiny in comparison , could barely lift her arms, and didn’t know one end of a gun from the other.
Of course he could’ve disarmed her — and he tried to in the kitchen!
You’ve omitted a lot here - nails & alleged schizophrenia for example
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You will recall I set up a thread to make announcements but that appears to have disappereared so how would you suggest I communicate such messages to ensure everyone is aware?
I started a new thread hours ago and it still hasn’t been moderated by the looks of it yet you’ve only recently started a ‘Sheila’s nightdress’ thread ?
There’s no point starting new threads if your going to ignore them as well Holly
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Have you got more than one account on this forum Holly ?
She tripped herself up when replying to Caroline
She used her other account, General and forgot she was logged into that one. I’ve seen that happen frequently.
I don’t like disingenuous characters who have fake accounts, but when it’s an Admin it’s even worse!
She’s trying to front it out by turning it into a joke with her other account, General, but I can see through it.
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You've rumbled me. The game's up.
I created this character in October last year to provide a counterpoint to my arguments, to deflect from my actual agenda.
I'm surprised it's taken you all this long, you pathetic carbon units. You have no idea the lengths I've gone to.
I always knew a simple mistake or a misconstrued post would be my downfall.
What are you going to do now, report me I suppose?
I’m a new member, and I’m not pathetic — you are with your sad obsession over a mass murderer
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You’ve omitted a lot here - nails & alleged schizophrenia for example
Good points, Nicholas 😊
I didn’t omit them purposely, I forgot to mention them