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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Holly Goodhead on April 21, 2020, 02:05:50 PM
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I have mentioned the above from time to time in passing because I thought it appropriate to do so.
If others choose to believe otherwise that's their choice.
As The General said I did share an email with him on the basis I shared with him my MM theory as it was inappropriate to upload to the board. Imo he's someone who will keep confidential info private. The email was quite old and relates to a minor aspect of the case but it demonstrates I'm in communication with experts.
I shared the above email with Myster ages ago and G-Unit recently. I've also shared with G-Unit in the last week or so many email exchanges between myself and a senior lecturer in forensic science at a UK uni. As a result of this I'm now in communication with a forensic scientist in private practice and this has only happened in the last 10 days.
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Holly why have you started a new thread about yourself on the Bamber board ?
Why didn’t you post it in off topic or somewhere else ?
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Seeing as this thread appears to be all about you
Questions for Holly
Do you have more than one account on this forum?
Are you in contact with or have you ever been in contact with Mark Newby?
And have you paid for any tests related to Bamber’s case?
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Holly why have you started a new thread about yourself on the Bamber board ?
Why didn’t you post it in off topic or somewhere else ?
Well you were so interested in me her earlier.
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Well you were so interested in me her earlier.
Did it appear that way
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Did it appear that way
A bit.
But anyway, let's move on. Maybe you'll get your questions answered.
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Holly why have you started a new thread about yourself on the Bamber board ?
Why didn’t you post it in off topic or somewhere else ?
It isn't about me. It's about keeping threads on topic. Most of the posts I've just removed are yours:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11404.msg585046#msg585046
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It isn't about me. It's about keeping threads on topic. Most of the posts I've just removed are yours:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11404.msg585046#msg585046
Oh but it is Holly
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It isn't about me. It's about keeping threads on topic. Most of the posts I've just removed are yours:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11404.msg585046#msg585046
I don’t believe you
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It isn't about me. It's about keeping threads on topic. Most of the posts I've just removed are yours:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11404.msg585046#msg585046
Have you removed 14 of the 15 spamming posts you made ?
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Oh but it is Holly
You were happy to ignore my earlier requests today to remain on-topic. Instead you posted numerous posts on a completely unrelated thread about my work with experts behind the scenes. I spent some 30 mins tidying up the thread removing many of your posts most of which relate to the subject of this thread. Now you are querying why I've set up a new thread. Unbelievable.
Please take note: refrain from levelling comments of a personal nature at fellow posters and remain on-topic.
Anyone who is seen to be continually flouting the rules will face sanctions.
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Have you removed 14 of the 15 spamming posts you made ?
Seriously you are pushing your luck if you want to continue posting here.
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How much of your own money have you invested in trying to free Bamber?
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How much of your own money have you invested in trying to free Bamber?
I haven't invested any of my own money trying to free Bamber.
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Why did my question about these experts get deleted? Surely it is not against forum rules to ask if they are in the pay of Team Bamber or if the are wholly independent, open-minded and unbiased?
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Why did my question about these experts get deleted? Surely it is not against forum rules to ask if they are in the pay of Team Bamber or if the are wholly independent, open-minded and unbiased?
I haven't removed any of your posts from this thread.
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I haven't removed any of your posts from this thread.
I didn’t say it was removed from this thread.
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Why did my question about these experts get deleted? Surely it is not against forum rules to ask if they are in the pay of Team Bamber or if the are wholly independent, open-minded and unbiased?
What would be the point in them being otherwise when the prosecution will instruct their own experts to defend the conviction?
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What would be the point in them being otherwise when the prosecution will instruct their own experts to defend the conviction?
So they are biased then. How can the truth be established if the scientists and experts have an agenda?
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What would be the point in them being otherwise when the prosecution will instruct their own experts to defend the conviction?
Surely it has to be blind testing to ensure that it's unbiased. Working on behalf of an interested party isn't going to give an unbiased opinion.
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Well you were so interested in me her earlier.
That doesn’t wash, General...Holly
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A bit.
But anyway, let's move on. Maybe you'll get your questions answered.
Phtttt....
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Does John know you work behind the scenes posing on a fake account as General?
Holly and the General are two completely different posters I one hundred percent guarantee it.
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Does John know you work behind the scenes posing on a fake account as General?
Well he does now, thanks to you and your oppo outing me!
OK, so you might have been shrewd enough to suss me out, but it doesn't give you the right to insult me.
Take it back, damn you, I demand you take it all back.
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Mind you, she does behave like a Generalissimo.
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Holly and the General are two completely different posters I one hundred percent guarantee it.
No we're not! Prove it!
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No we're not! Prove it!
Sure. Permission to publish your PMs?
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Sure. Permission to publish your PMs?
Absolutely not. Besides, they're part of the ruse.
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So they are biased then. How can the truth be established if the scientists and experts have an agenda?
Firstly I very much doubt anyone could buy the outcome they're anticipating or even hoping for. Secondly what would be the point when any prosecutor instructed by CPS to defend a conviction would pull it apart if it was unable to withstand scrutiny.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/expert-evidence
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Surely it has to be blind testing to ensure that it's unbiased. Working on behalf of an interested party isn't going to give an unbiased opinion.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11417.msg585187#msg585187
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Firstly I very much doubt anyone could buy the outcome they're anticipating or even hoping for. Secondly what would be the point when any prosecutor instructed by CPS to defend a conviction would pull it apart if it was unable to withstand scrutiny.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/expert-evidence
Well, if one takes the line of corrupt cops, corrupt judiciary, corrupt government, it's only a very small leap to corrupt scientists. Everyone, I'm told, has their price.
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Well, if one takes the line of corrupt cops, corrupt judiciary, corrupt government, it's only a very small leap to corrupt scientists. Everyone, I'm told, has their price.
Even if I was of mind to go down that route, which I'm not, and even if I could find bent experts how long do you think they would last in the appeal courts before experts for the prosecution called them out?
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Holly and the General are two completely different posters I one hundred percent guarantee it.
But General replied to Caroline as Holly...
I’ve seen that happen on other forums where people have multiple fake accounts and they trip up by posting a reply making out they’re “Holly” when they’re using the sock puppet “General”
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Holly, why are you so bothered about Jeremy Bamber?
You spend all your time, and have done for many years, talking about him.
Are you infatuated with him?
If you look at my profile and statistics here they would suggest otherwise.
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But General replied to Caroline as Holly...
I’ve seen that happen on other forums where people have multiple fake accounts and they trip up by posting a reply making out they’re “Holly” when they’re using the sock puppet “General”
I'm going to remove all these off-topic posts but for the record I can confirm I've never had any second account on this forum. I've only ever posted under my current username.
The General is far witier than I am 8(8-))
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I'm going to remove all these off-topic posts but for the record I can confirm I've never had any second account on this forum. I've only ever posted under my current username.
The General is far witier than I am 8(8-))
I’ve never noticed any wit from that account, Holly
What I DID notice was an underlying anger ...and a clear dislike of my posts...always disagreeing
I shall block that account. I’m not wasting my time speaking to fake accounts
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I’ve never noticed any wit from that account, Holly
What I DID notice was an underlying anger ...and a clear dislike of my posts...always disagreeing
I shall block that account. I’m not wasting my time speaking to fake accounts
It's up to you.
I am sure John and other regulars here will confirm that The General and myself are bona fide members and not one and the same.
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It's up to you.
I am sure John and other regulars here will confirm that The General and myself are bona fide members and not one and the same.
So why did he reply to Caroline as you?
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So why did he reply to Caroline as you?
I've no idea. Sometimes people genuinely mix up posters. Only the other day I mistook a post from Caroline as coming from April or vice-versa I can't recall now.
Anyway can we end this now please. Its up to you who you choose to respond to but please don't accuse others of having second accounts or fake accounts. If you think someone is breaking the rules then please report it to a moderstor or John and the matter will be looked into. Thanks.
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Well, if one takes the line of corrupt cops, corrupt judiciary, corrupt government, it's only a very small leap to corrupt scientists. Everyone, I'm told, has their price.
If the system wants to get you....
https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/radley-balko/the-cadaver-king-and-the-country-dentist/9781610396912/
A True Story of Injustice in the American South
by Radley Balko
by Tucker Carrington
Foreword by John Grisham
A shocking and deeply reported account of the persistent plague of institutional racism and junk forensic science in our criminal justice system, and its devastating effect on innocent lives
After two three-year-old girls were raped and murdered in rural Mississippi, law enforcement pursued and convicted two innocent men: Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks. Together they spent a combined thirty years in prison before finally being exonerated in 2008. Meanwhile, the real killer remained free.
The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist recounts the story of how the criminal justice system allowed this to happen, and of how two men, Dr. Steven Hayne and Dr. Michael West, built successful careers on the back of that structure. For nearly two decades, Hayne, a medical examiner, performed the vast majority of Mississippi’s autopsies, while his friend Dr. West, a local dentist, pitched himself as a forensic jack-of-all-trades. Together they became the go-to experts for prosecutors and helped put countless Mississippians in prison. But then some of those convictions began to fall apart.
Here, Radley Balko and Tucker Carrington tell the haunting story of how the courts and Mississippi’s death investigation system–a relic of the Jim Crow era–failed to deliver justice for its citizens. The authors argue that bad forensics, structural racism, and institutional failures are at fault, raising sobering questions about our ability and willingness to address these crucial issues.
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But General replied to Caroline as Holly...
I’ve seen that happen on other forums where people have multiple fake accounts and they trip up by posting a reply making out they’re “Holly” when they’re using the sock puppet “General”
Are you still banging on about this? I replied clearly in jest at the utter incredulity of the accusation.
Sock puppet? Nearly broke an emoji out there........and you have the audacity to call other people gullible. You are a grade A whopper, kid.
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I've no idea. Sometimes people genuinely mix up posters. Only the other day I mistook a post from Caroline as coming from April or vice-versa I can't recall now.
Anyway can we end this now please. Its up to you who you choose to respond to but please don't accuse others of having second accounts or fake accounts. If you think someone is breaking the rules then please report it to a moderstor or John and the matter will be looked into. Thanks.
I can’t be bothered to report it...it’s not important enough
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Even if I was of mind to go down that route, which I'm not, and even if I could find bent experts how long do you think they would last in the appeal courts before experts for the prosecution called them out?
Desperate people, desperate measures.
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I'm going to remove all these off-topic posts but for the record I can confirm I've never had any second account on this forum. I've only ever posted under my current username.
The General is far witier than I am 8(8-))
And can spell better :-)
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If the system wants to get you....
https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/radley-balko/the-cadaver-king-and-the-country-dentist/9781610396912/
A True Story of Injustice in the American South
by Radley Balko
by Tucker Carrington
Foreword by John Grisham
A shocking and deeply reported account of the persistent plague of institutional racism and junk forensic science in our criminal justice system, and its devastating effect on innocent lives
After two three-year-old girls were raped and murdered in rural Mississippi, law enforcement pursued and convicted two innocent men: Kennedy Brewer and Levon Brooks. Together they spent a combined thirty years in prison before finally being exonerated in 2008. Meanwhile, the real killer remained free.
The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist recounts the story of how the criminal justice system allowed this to happen, and of how two men, Dr. Steven Hayne and Dr. Michael West, built successful careers on the back of that structure. For nearly two decades, Hayne, a medical examiner, performed the vast majority of Mississippi’s autopsies, while his friend Dr. West, a local dentist, pitched himself as a forensic jack-of-all-trades. Together they became the go-to experts for prosecutors and helped put countless Mississippians in prison. But then some of those convictions began to fall apart.
Here, Radley Balko and Tucker Carrington tell the haunting story of how the courts and Mississippi’s death investigation system–a relic of the Jim Crow era–failed to deliver justice for its citizens. The authors argue that bad forensics, structural racism, and institutional failures are at fault, raising sobering questions about our ability and willingness to address these crucial issues.
Misty, This case is covered in a Netflix series, The Innocence Files, just watched it the other day. The dentist thinks he has morphed into a bite mark expert!! Socking
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I've no idea. Sometimes people genuinely mix up posters. Only the other day I mistook a post from Caroline as coming from April or vice-versa I can't recall now.
Anyway can we end this now please. Its up to you who you choose to respond to but please don't accuse others of having second accounts or fake accounts. If you think someone is breaking the rules then please report it to a moderstor or John and the matter will be looked into. Thanks.
That doesn’t wash, Holly.
We can all reply to someone’s question and mistakenly think a different poster asked the question
But we don’t reply to a member who’s asking SOMEONE ELSE a direct question, and reply as that other person — hwich is what General did.
I don’t believe you.