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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: John on May 18, 2020, 11:11:16 PM
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Madeleine McCann computer works out how she would look today on her 17th birthday.
Madeleine McCann would be celebrating her 17th birthday if she was with us today. Now, thanks to computer technology, a photo shows how she could look today which its creators hope might prompt people to think 'I know someone who looks like this'.
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Advanced AI technology has been used to create a photo of what Madeleine McCann might look like on her 17th birthday today – and its creators hope it can be used to help find her.
Madeleine McCann went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2007 days before her 4th birthday on May 12 while her parents were dining in a nearby tapas restaurant.
Her disappearance remains a mystery to this day and Kate and Gerry McCann have campaigned ever since she went missing in the hope they will see their little girl again.
Now, a new picture, produced by Bradford University professor Hassan Ugail, shows what missing Maddie could look like today on her 17th birthday.
Professor Ugail says he is "fairly sure" the image will be an accurate representation of Madeleine, having been created by their computer-based modelling system, which is one of the most advanced in the world.
The system uses machine-learning to teach the computer how different people age, while also taking in the resemblance of family members to produce a photo-quality image.
Discussing the new photo, he told Daily Star Online: “We have taken in a huge database of people from different ethnicities, different races and obviously different gender and we have asked the machine-learning algorithm to actually learn about how humans age.
“For example a caucasian, white female ages very differently to a white male - and drastically differently from a black or asian person.
Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘haunted’ as they mark 13 years since she vanished
“So all different races and genders age differently so we have taken that onboard with our algorithm and we can also filter in siblings, parental and other family matters as obviously people resemble others in their family so we also take this on board.”
Professor Ugail’s technology was first unveiled by Bradford University in 2017 and has been refined over the past two years.
He also explained how the process works.
“We take a photo, it doesn’t matter what age the person is really, any age. So in the case of Madeleine it’s when she was three," he said.
"Then first of all we get a picture of mum and dad and put it into the system and that provides our template and we put the age in as 17.
“When we say 17, we can’t guarantee that but it will be something like 15 to 17 in a two to three year range.”
“That’s one reason we wanted to do this, to see if there’s any hope. Anybody who looks at this picture and will think ‘I know someone who looks like this’.
“Or even better if the police can run it through large databases and then identify potential looking people and then it can help with their investigation.”
Back in 2018, the professor was able to identify two of the suspects behind the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in the Wiltshire town of Salisbury.
Ex-chief inspector Mick Neville, who founded the Met Police’s Central Forensic Image Team in 2012, has already expressed an interest in analysing the image.
He now runs Super Recognisers International, formed of recruits who can remember 80% of the faces they see.
This allows them to pore through CCTV footage and pictures to identify criminals and missing people.
He said: “What they could do with it (the new picture) is what they can do with any picture, they need other images.
“What we’d have to do is put pressure on Facebook because the facial recognition they use in America is one of the best in the world.
“We could run it across all the images and speak to Interpol or Europol.”
Facebook identifies peoples’ features in newly uploaded photos and can recognise individuals even when they’re not tagged.
Neville believes an up-to-date photo of Madeleine could be lurking somewhere on social media, potentially in someone else’s selfie.
The forensics expert has offered his service to the Find Madeleine campaign, detailing what his super recognisers are capable of.
During the London riots in 2011, more than 200,000 hours of CCTV footage were analysed by facial recognition software and only one criminal was identified.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-computer-works-out-22009629
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Madeleine McCann computer works out how she would look today on her 17th birthday.
Madeleine McCann would be celebrating her 17th birthday if she was with us today. Now, thanks to computer technology, a photo shows how she could look today which its creators hope might prompt people to think 'I know someone who looks like this'.
(https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article21766720.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_maddie-2.jpg)
Advanced AI technology has been used to create a photo of what Madeleine McCann might look like on her 17th birthday today – and its creators hope it can be used to help find her.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-computer-works-out-22009629
Somebody took a teen photo of Kate McCann and giggled it about a bit on Photoshop. Nobody's fooled!
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Jesus, what did they do to her teeth? Those animals.
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Jesus, what did they do to her teeth? Those animals.
Also her fringe - no way does that look like a 17-year-old girl, more like a 10-year-old.
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Madeleine McCann computer works out how she would look today on her 17th birthday.
Madeleine McCann would be celebrating her 17th birthday if she was with us today. Now, thanks to computer technology, a photo shows how she could look today which its creators hope might prompt people to think 'I know someone who looks like this'.
(https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article21766720.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/1_maddie-2.jpg)
Advanced AI technology has been used to create a photo of what Madeleine McCann might look like on her 17th birthday today – and its creators hope it can be used to help find her.
Madeleine McCann went missing from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal in 2007 days before her 4th birthday on May 12 while her parents were dining in a nearby tapas restaurant.
Her disappearance remains a mystery to this day and Kate and Gerry McCann have campaigned ever since she went missing in the hope they will see their little girl again.
Now, a new picture, produced by Bradford University professor Hassan Ugail, shows what missing Maddie could look like today on her 17th birthday.
Professor Ugail says he is "fairly sure" the image will be an accurate representation of Madeleine, having been created by their computer-based modelling system, which is one of the most advanced in the world.
The system uses machine-learning to teach the computer how different people age, while also taking in the resemblance of family members to produce a photo-quality image.
Discussing the new photo, he told Daily Star Online: “We have taken in a huge database of people from different ethnicities, different races and obviously different gender and we have asked the machine-learning algorithm to actually learn about how humans age.
“For example a caucasian, white female ages very differently to a white male - and drastically differently from a black or asian person.
Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘haunted’ as they mark 13 years since she vanished
“So all different races and genders age differently so we have taken that onboard with our algorithm and we can also filter in siblings, parental and other family matters as obviously people resemble others in their family so we also take this on board.”
Professor Ugail’s technology was first unveiled by Bradford University in 2017 and has been refined over the past two years.
He also explained how the process works.
“We take a photo, it doesn’t matter what age the person is really, any age. So in the case of Madeleine it’s when she was three," he said.
"Then first of all we get a picture of mum and dad and put it into the system and that provides our template and we put the age in as 17.
“When we say 17, we can’t guarantee that but it will be something like 15 to 17 in a two to three year range.”
“That’s one reason we wanted to do this, to see if there’s any hope. Anybody who looks at this picture and will think ‘I know someone who looks like this’.
“Or even better if the police can run it through large databases and then identify potential looking people and then it can help with their investigation.”
Back in 2018, the professor was able to identify two of the suspects behind the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal in the Wiltshire town of Salisbury.
Ex-chief inspector Mick Neville, who founded the Met Police’s Central Forensic Image Team in 2012, has already expressed an interest in analysing the image.
He now runs Super Recognisers International, formed of recruits who can remember 80% of the faces they see.
This allows them to pore through CCTV footage and pictures to identify criminals and missing people.
He said: “What they could do with it (the new picture) is what they can do with any picture, they need other images.
“What we’d have to do is put pressure on Facebook because the facial recognition they use in America is one of the best in the world.
“We could run it across all the images and speak to Interpol or Europol.”
Facebook identifies peoples’ features in newly uploaded photos and can recognise individuals even when they’re not tagged.
Neville believes an up-to-date photo of Madeleine could be lurking somewhere on social media, potentially in someone else’s selfie.
The forensics expert has offered his service to the Find Madeleine campaign, detailing what his super recognisers are capable of.
During the London riots in 2011, more than 200,000 hours of CCTV footage were analysed by facial recognition software and only one criminal was identified.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/madeleine-mccann-computer-works-out-22009629
Jesus, what did they do to her teeth? Those animals.
Somebody took a teen photo of Kate McCann and giggled it about a bit on Photoshop. Nobody's fooled!
Also her fringe - no way does that look like a 17-year-old girl, more like a 10-year-old.
What interesting reactions !
After looking at Johns initial post, anyone would think that you peeps didn't want Madeleine found.
Why would that be ?
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According to that she's looking more like Gerry and less like Kate as the years pass by.
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I apologise if this is not on topic. If you are interested and/or have the time, visit Mick Neville’s (and others) site and take the tests to determine if you are a super recogniser. superrecognisers.com.
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What interesting reactions !
After looking at Johns initial post, anyone would think that you peeps didn't want Madeleine found.
Why would that be ?
Even if she were alive, which she's almost certainly not, this bizarre mash-up would help no-one.
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What interesting reactions !
After looking at Johns initial post, anyone would think that you peeps didn't want Madeleine found.
Why would that be ?
Sadie its nothing to do with not wanting her found - its not nice to twist things.
The picture does not look like a 17-year-old Maddie - or any 17 year old.
IMO its an insult to her memory - someone else jumping on the bandwagon.
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Sadie its nothing to do with not wanting her found - its not nice to twist things.
The picture does not look like a 17-year-old Maddie - or any 17 year old.
IMO its an insult to her memory - someone else jumping on the bandwagon.
Thats just your biased opinion...to me its someone wanting to help...which is good. I accept you may think tahts my biased opinion...but it doesnt matter. Once more its a sceptic wanting to slag evryone off who wants to support the search an help find Maddie is she might bge alive.
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Sadie its nothing to do with not wanting her found - its not nice to twist things.
The picture does not look like a 17-year-old Maddie - or any 17 year old.
IMO its an insult to her memory - someone else jumping on the bandwagon.
Kizzy, the image is very like a girl that I saw in a video taken in 2012, when Madeleine was nearly 10. It is like an age progression of that. This girl was in SPECIFICALLY the spot that I expected to see Madeleine and not only looked like Madeleine but had many of her mannerisms and other likenesses.
So I have seen a girl who I believe to be Madeleine, 6 years after the last photos of Madeleine aged 3 … and then this image another 8 years later, which is almost certainly how the nearly 10 year old would have matured.
With all due respect to your integrity, as a secondary school teacher for 18 years, I think this electronically manufactured image could well be a 17 year old, minus tarty make up and fanciful hairdos so common these days.
Additionally my speciality as an Art teacher and artist is in figure drawing and portraiture, so I have an unusually keen eye.
As noticed before on this thread there is a likeness to the McCann side of the family. However the little girl that I saw on video from 2012, has a distinct likeness to Kate from a SIDE view. This is especially so around the cheek bones, eye sockets, eyes, eyebrows and forehead.
Aged about 9-10 this little video girl had light reddish brown hair, like her parents did as youngsters. I wonder if it went reddish blond in the summer?
Her limbs and movements, mannerisms etc., were like Kates whilst her torso was more McCann
I think this electronic image of Madeleine, aged 17, is very good.
I hope that it leads to her recovery.
Tin Hat on … or alternatively the silence will be deafening @)(++(*
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Thats just your biased opinion...to me its someone wanting to help...which is good. I accept you may think tahts my biased opinion...but it doesnt matter. Once more its a sceptic wanting to slag evryone off who wants to support the search an help find Maddie is she might bge alive.
Once more its a sceptic wanting to slag evryone off who wants to support the search an help find Maddie is she might bge alive.
Bit harsh D and how am I trying to slag everyone off.
I could actually say the same about you and c/o - slagging people off trying to get to the truth but I won't.
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Kizzy, the image is very like a girl that I saw in a video taken in 2012, when Madeleine was nearly 10. It is like an age progression of that. This girl was in SPECIFICALLY the spot that I expected to see Madeleine and not only looked like Madeleine but had many of her mannerisms and other likenesses.
So I have seen a girl who I believe to be Madeleine, 6 years after the last photos of Madeleine aged 3 … and then this image another 8 years later, which is almost certainly how the nearly 10 year old would have matured.
With all due respect to your integrity, as a secondary school teacher for 18 years, I think this electronically manufactured image could well be a 17 year old, minus tarty make up and fanciful hairdos so common these days.
Additionally my speciality as an Art teacher and artist is in figure drawing and portraiture, so I have an unusually keen eye.
As noticed before on this thread there is a likeness to the McCann side of the family. However the little girl that I saw on video from 2012, has a distinct likeness to Kate from a SIDE view. This is especially so around the cheek bones, eye sockets, eyes, eyebrows and forehead.
Aged about 9-10 this little video girl had light reddish brown hair, like her parents did as youngsters. I wonder if it went reddish blond in the summer?
Her limbs and movements, mannerisms etc., were like Kates whilst her torso was more McCann
I think this electronic image of Madeleine, aged 17, is very good.
I hope that it leads to her recovery.
Tin Hat on … or alternatively the silence will be deafening @)(++(*
Sadie with all due respect that is fine if you think it's very good - I know you believe in what you say and post.
It's just I could not see Maddie looking like that at 17- to me, it looks like its made to resemble k or g mcc.
A few weeks ago I gathered a lot of old photos of my kids and grandkids and made a collage.
The range of them being a few months old into adulthood with time from the lockdown I had so many it ended up like a jigsaw.
With it only just being heads and shoulders even I had trouble putting together who was who as I wanted to keep each one person in a sort of circle from baby to nearest present time.
It is still not completely finished, but just looking at it now the change is often dramatic especially 5 to 14 age range. The moral of this post is young people's features do change. even from 2012 to 2020
It's like the picture of Maddie the mccs first put out about 2 1/2 chubby face, was nothing like how Maddie looked in the park a few days before she went missing
I hope you're keeping well Sadie.
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Once more its a sceptic wanting to slag evryone off who wants to support the search an help find Maddie is she might bge alive.
Bit harsh D and how am I trying to slag everyone off.
I could actually say the same about you and c/o - slagging people off trying to get to the truth but I won't.
I'm trying to get to the truth too... Do you think only sceptics are interested in the truth.
Certain people deserve to be criticised as they have worked against finding the truth re what happened though perhaps not intentionally... Just out of incompetence... I'd put amaral in that group
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I'm trying to get to the truth too... Do you think only sceptics are interested in the truth.
Certain people deserve to be criticised as they have worked against finding the truth re what happened though perhaps not intentionally... Just out of incompetence... I'd put amaral in that group
You would - I wouldn't.
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You would - I wouldn't.
We have different ideas as to what the truth is and who is more likely to find it
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We have different ideas as to what the truth is and who is more likely to find it
We do
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Sadie with all due respect that is fine if you think it's very good - I know you believe in what you say and post.
It's just I could not see Maddie looking like that at 17- to me, it looks like its made to resemble k or g mcc.
A few weeks ago I gathered a lot of old photos of my kids and grandkids and made a collage.
The range of them being a few months old into adulthood with time from the lockdown I had so many it ended up like a jigsaw.
With it only just being heads and shoulders even I had trouble putting together who was who as I wanted to keep each one person in a sort of circle from baby to nearest present time.
It is still not completely finished, but just looking at it now the change is often dramatic especially 5 to 14 age range. The moral of this post is young people's features do change. even from 2012 to 2020
It's like the picture of Maddie the mccs first put out about 2 1/2 chubby face, was nothing like how Maddie looked in the park a few days before she went missing
I hope you're keeping well Sadie.
Thank you Kizzy. Am slowed down very considerably and am living with a lot of medical problems. However, happily, there is nothing really ugly rearing its head at the moment, which is a change … unless you consider a nasty looking area of skin which looks as tho' it might be a big ulcer forming on my lower leg.
We both get by and make the best of things, taking great care to remain isolated and virus free
And how about you? Do hope that you and yours keep well.
And that everyone here keeps well too. Believe it or not, I may argue fiercely at times, but I worry about you all
Anyone know what has happened to Misty? Do hope that she is OK. It has been three weeks since she logged in and she hasn't responded to my pm, which is unusual.
Soz, off topic.
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Thank you Kizzy. Am slowed down very considerably and am living with a lot of medical problems. However, happily, there is nothing really ugly rearing its head at the moment, which is a change … unless you consider a nasty looking area of skin which looks as tho' it might be a big ulcer forming on my lower leg.
We both get by and make the best of things, taking great care to remain isolated and virus free
And how about you? Do hope that you and yours keep well.
And that everyone here keeps well too. Believe it or not, I may argue fiercely at times, but I worry about you all
Anyone know what has happened to Misty? Do hope that she is OK. It has been three weeks since she logged in and she hasn't responded to my pm, which is unusual.
Soz, off topic.
Well hopefully it won't turn out to be anything nasty on your leg Sadie.
I always think health and quality of life are the main things - and you seem to do incredibly well.
Thank you and everything is fine here - keep finding lots to do.
I hope you have got in touch with Misty.
Off-topic again but at the moment - there's nothing really on topic.
Keep well Sadie and safe.
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Well hopefully it won't turn out to be anything nasty on your leg Sadie.
I always think health and quality of life are the main things - and you seem to do incredibly well.
Thank you and everything is fine here - keep finding lots to do.
I hope you have got in touch with Misty.
Off-topic again but at the moment - there's nothing really on topic.
Keep well Sadie and safe.
Thank you, Kizzy
Have just emailed her; she didn't respond to my pm. Do hope that she is OK
You take care too … and keep those little ones singing "Happy Birthday to Nana....". @)(++(*
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Anyone know what has happened to Misty? Do hope that she is OK. It has been three weeks since she logged in and she hasn't responded to my pm, which is unusual.
Good news, Misty has emailed me back and she has no major illness worries, but sounded a bit tired. She is taking a break.