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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Robittybob1 on May 29, 2020, 12:50:07 AM
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http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2441.0.html
It is not often you get to read a book on the Bamber case for free. It looks at the case from a different side, I wouldn't say a pro-Bamber side entirely for some comments are quite damaging.
I was surprised that no one has mentioned this draft book on this forum till now looking through our "Search" function, so I thought I'd mention it.
I'm not aware of how to copy text from it, so it makes it tedious to comment on statements made in the book. (I'll look for another version on the internet.)
But it is certainly an eye-opener for new bits of information.
You might have to be a member to read it, that I'm not sure about as yet, no doubt someone will let us know of the access requirements.
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Link to article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2456759/Jeremy-Bamber-Do-macabre-pictures-prove-innocent.html
"A notorious prisoner is the victim of one of the worst miscarriages of justice in modern times and should have his conviction overturned, a former Tory MP argues in a compelling new book.
Andrew Hunter says that Jeremy Bamber, who has spent more than a quarter of a century in jail for shooting dead his adoptive parents, his sister and his two six-year-old nephews, has been the victim of ‘questionable’ police evidence.
Mr Hunter, who has been working on the Bamber case for the past ten years, says he has come across previously unconsidered evidence which suggests that the prosecution was seriously flawed."
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/12/article-2456759-18B3E01000000578-139_634x268.jpg)
Full thread http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2614.0
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Boring
That picture died a death ages ago
Photoshopped, badly too
Besides, Sheila’s feet would’ve been covered in blood
And sugar
And glass
This is so boring now...💤💤💤💤
By the way, if you can’t afford to buy any books don’t they have paperboy jobs in NZ? You’ll be able to buy some bubblegum too with any tips you get
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Boring
That picture died a death ages ago
Photoshopped, badly too
Besides, Sheila’s feet would’ve been covered in blood
And sugar
And glass
This is so boring now...💤💤💤💤
By the way, if you can’t afford to buy any books don’t they have paperboy jobs in NZ? You’ll be able to buy some bubblegum too with any tips you get
IS it photoshopped?
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Boring
That picture died a death ages ago
Photoshopped, badly too
Besides, Sheila’s feet would’ve been covered in blood
And sugar
And glass
This is so boring now...💤💤💤💤
By the way, if you can’t afford to buy any books don’t they have paperboy jobs in NZ? You’ll be able to buy some bubblegum too with any tips you get
I'm a bit old to do paperboy duties. If anyone has spare books on the Bamber case maybe we could get them posted to NZ. I'd be surprised if any Bamber Books were available in NZ. Absolutely none on TradeMe.
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Boring
That picture died a death ages ago
Photoshopped, badly too
Besides, Sheila’s feet would’ve been covered in blood
And sugar
And glass
This is so boring now...💤💤💤💤
By the way, if you can’t afford to buy any books don’t they have paperboy jobs in NZ? You’ll be able to buy some bubblegum too with any tips you get
Why would SC's feet contain any blood, sugar or glass?
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Why would SC's feet contain any blood, sugar or glass?
It all depends on your theory. I was surprised at the extent of the minor injuries to the soles of her feet. Had she been walking rather than sleeping? Was her bed slept in that night?
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Why would SC's feet contain any blood, sugar or glass?
Don’t bore me, Holly
You know full well
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IS it photoshopped?
It flies in the face of the information given given by the trained observers first on the scene which we have all read. It is not supported by Sheila's post mortem examination; had it been we would have heard about it.
Sheila could not have walked on broken crockery bloodying her foot in the process; nor could she have walked over sugar scattered on the floor without leaving trace; there was none.
We know the internet waters have been muddied by lies and halftruths much of it based around photo-shopped images.
The crime scene photographs were taken using film resulting in negatives being produced for the chain of evidence which have a provenance not available for images lifted from the net.
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It flies in the face of the information given given by the trained observers first on the scene which we have all read. It is not supported by Sheila's post mortem examination; had it been we would have heard about it.
Sheila could not have walked on broken crockery bloodying her foot in the process; nor could she have walked over sugar scattered on the floor without leaving trace; there was none.
We know the internet waters have been muddied by lies and halftruths much of it based around photo-shopped images.
The crime scene photographs were taken using film resulting in negatives being produced for the chain of evidence which have a provenance not available for images lifted from the net.
Thanks Brietta.
I don't know what is genuine and what is "faked" any more!
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Don’t bore me, Holly
You know full well
Whoever one believes was responsible the perp clearly had to move around from room to room so where are the bloody footprints? Or bloody paw prints from Crispy?
None of the police officers refer to sugar on the floor whether seeing or feeling/hearing something crunchy under boots. Same applies to the broken lampshade which didn't even make it to the dizzy heights of a soc exhibit.
SC's feet clean to the naked eye are entirely consistent with her as the perp.
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It all depends on your theory. I was surprised at the extent of the minor injuries to the soles of her feet. Had she been walking rather than sleeping? Was her bed slept in that night?
Minor injuries to her feet that the pathologist overlooked? I don't think so.
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Thanks Brietta.
I don't know what is genuine and what is "faked" any more!
Just follow me and you'll be 8(>((
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Just follow me and you'll be 8(>((
Fake or genuine? you've not it clear. (&^&
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Fake or genuine? you've not it clear. (&^&
I don't believe SC had any marks, damage, stains or debris to her feet.
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I don't believe SC had any marks, damage, stains or debris to her feet.
There were reports in the book of Sheila running around days before. The injuries could be a day old. Running barefoot across stones could leave one's feet looking like this.
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There were reports in the book of Sheila running around days before. The injuries could be a day old. Running barefoot across stones could leave one's feet looking like this.
Why did the pathologist overlook?
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There were reports in the book of Sheila running around days before. The injuries could be a day old. Running barefoot across stones could leave one's feet looking like this.
Why are you keen for SC's feet to contain signs of damage?
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Why are you keen for SC's feet to contain signs of damage?
I am sure everyone is interested to know why you won't answer my question? I suggest no one answers yours until you do.
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Why did the pathologist overlook?
not related to the killings IMO.
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Why are you keen for SC's feet to contain signs of damage?
The photo was linked to the article about the author Andrew Hunter.
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Whoever one believes was responsible the perp clearly had to move around from room to room so where are the bloody footprints? Or bloody paw prints from Crispy?
None of the police officers refer to sugar on the floor whether seeing or feeling/hearing something crunchy under boots. Same applies to the broken lampshade which didn't even make it to the dizzy heights of a soc exhibit.
SC's feet clean to the naked eye are entirely consistent with her as the perp.
You know full well that Dr Vanezis found NO blood, sugar, glass on Sheila’s feet.
you know full well Sheila would have had blood, sugar, glass not just on her feet, but up the stairs and on the landing too?!
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You know full well that Dr Vanezis found NO blood, sugar, glass on Sheila’s feet.
you know full well Sheila would have had blood, sugar, glass not just on her feet, but up the stairs and on the landing too?!
Andrew Hunter probably didn't get the backing from Bambers team as he tends to be introducing the possibility that there was another party involved with the shooting.
Was it Sheila or Jeremy who arranged for the third party to turn up, that will be the question needing to be answered.
Since the police didn't find evidence to back up the 3rd party may be the case against Jeremy (another murder trial) he will most likely be found not guilty. Still years of legal wrangling ahead of him till it is resolve IMO.
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Now Andrew Hunter is proposing the police themselves stage-managed the presentation of Sheila's body position prior to taking the police photos.
There are at least two photos showing a different hand position.
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Now Andrew Hunter is proposing the police themselves stage-managed the presentation of Sheila's body position prior to taking the police photos.
There are at least two photos showing a different hand position.
I think it's possible someone spared her modesty as she had no draws on.
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I think it's possible someone spared her modesty as she had no draws on.
There is precedent https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26853282 but I think it is more than likely that if Sheila's body was covered it was carried out by her murderer who was staging the scene.
In my opinion I think he recognised that it would have immediately flagged up the fact that her body had been dragged confirming the evidence presented by the nightgown pulled up beneath her.
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There is precedent https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26853282 but I think it is more than likely that if Sheila's body was covered it was carried out by her murderer who was staging the scene.
In my opinion I think he recognised that it would have immediately flagged up the fact that her body had been dragged confirming the evidence presented by the nightgown pulled up beneath her.
Spot on!
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I think it's possible someone spared her modesty as she had no draws on.
Yet another old-fashioned slang word (except you’ve spelt it wrong)
Drawers
That’s uncouth, too
In any event, Sheila’s body wasn’t moved at all; the police moved her arm for the photographer
Try to have some decorum, General...