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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: ISpyWithMyEye on May 29, 2020, 07:29:28 AM
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As it’s obvious that Jeremy removed the ivory rotary telephone that was always by Nevill’s side of the bed after he’d killed everyone — and then put it in the kitchen while hiding the cream push button GPO phone between magazines, it’s also obvious that after he shot Sheila dead he needed to pull that bedside cabinet out to unplug the phone.
The pathologist said Sheila had been shot while sitting in an upright position, and it all makes perfect sense now.
She was cowering by the side of the bed and the cabinet.
As Jeremy pulled that bedside cabinet out after pulling Sheila downwards (hence the bunching of her nightdress), and then unplugged the phone from the socket in the wall, he had to push the cabinet back to its original position. He also placed the radio/clock on the top to hide the obvious mark left behind by the telephone.
But in his panic, and like all pre-planned murders, things go awry and the unexpected happens. And they miss crucial things...
As you can see by this photo of Sheila, the leg of the bedside cabinet is ON TOP of her hair!
The ONLY way Sheila’s hair could have become trapped under that leg is by someone pushing the cabinet back to the wall, and in doing so resting the leg on her hair. The photograph proves that. You can SEE it.
No wonder the Home Secretary went ballistic at Essex Police for missing SUCH obvious evidence that Sheila had been murdered, as had all the family, by one of their own — JEREMY BAMBER,
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As it’s obvious that Jeremy removed the ivory rotary telephone that was always by Nevill’s side of the bed after he’d killed everyone — and then put it in the kitchen while hiding the cream push button GPO phone between magazines, it’s also obvious that after he shot Sheila dead he needed to pull that bedside cabinet out to unplug the phone.
The pathologist said Sheila had been shot while sitting in an upright position, and it all makes perfect sense now.
She was cowering by the side of the bed and the cabinet.
As Jeremy pulled that bedside cabinet out after pulling Sheila downwards (hence the bunching of her nightdress), and then unplugged the phone from the socket in the wall, he had to push the cabinet back to its original position. He also placed the radio/clock on the top to hide the obvious mark left behind by the telephone.
But in his panic, and like all pre-planned murders, things go awry and the unexpected happens. And they miss crucial things...
As you can see by this photo of Sheila, the leg of the bedside cabinet is ON TOP of her hair!
The ONLY way Sheila’s hair could have become trapped under that leg is by someone pushing the cabinet back to the wall, and in doing so resting the leg on her hair. The photograph proves that. You can SEE it.
No wonder the Home Secretary went ballistic at Essex Police for missing SUCH obvious evidence that Sheila had been murdered, as had all the family, by one of their own — JEREMY BAMBER,
Is that a genuine crime scene photo?
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My, Essex police were complete idiots then? Did they lift the leg of the cabinet, cut her hair off or rip it out by the roots in order to move her? Fancy them not managing to work out that she couldn't have trapped her own hair!
Or is that beyond the realms of possibility and Sheila's hair wasn't underneath the leg of the cabinet?
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Is that a genuine crime scene photo?
Yes
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My, Essex police were complete idiots then? Did they lift the leg of the cabinet, cut her hair off or rip it out by the roots in order to move her? Fancy them not managing to work out that she couldn't have trapped her own hair!
Or is that beyond the realms of possibility and Sheila's hair wasn't underneath the leg of the cabinet?
You can SEE her hair is underneath the leg...put your glasses on
The police were inept, we all know that
They probably didn’t even think about it
That photo is THE photograph taken by the police photographer, and you can’t deny Sheila’s hair id BENEATH that leg.
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Yes
Do you have a link to a site with Bamber crime scene photos? I'd like to have good look at a few. Please Please.
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Do you have a link to a site with Bamber crime scene photos? I'd like to have good look at a few. Please Please.
They’re on here somewhere
You’ll be able to find them if you look
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They’re on here somewhere
You’ll be able to find them if you look
Did you save them to your own computer file?
I searched Google for that image and there were no other versions of it. It is a very rare photo TBH.
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You can SEE her hair is underneath the leg...put your glasses on
The police were inept, we all know that
They probably didn’t even think about it
That photo is THE photograph taken by the police photographer, and you can’t deny Sheila’s hair id BENEATH that leg.
How come you can see what forensic scientist Martyn Ismail overlooked?
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How come you can see what forensic scientist Martyn Ismail overlooked?
When did he overlook it? At the crime scene ... or in 2002?
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When did he overlook it? At the crime scene ... or in 2002?
2002
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The thing I notice about that picture of Sheila is that on her right arm there are 6 blood spots that look as if they dripped on to her from someone bleeding.
If it was her bleeding onto herself you'd think there would be more blood on the front of her nighty.
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As it’s obvious that Jeremy removed the ivory rotary telephone that was always by Nevill’s side of the bed after he’d killed everyone — and then put it in the kitchen while hiding the cream push button GPO phone between magazines, it’s also obvious that after he shot Sheila dead he needed to pull that bedside cabinet out to unplug the phone.
The pathologist said Sheila had been shot while sitting in an upright position, and it all makes perfect sense now.
She was cowering by the side of the bed and the cabinet.
As Jeremy pulled that bedside cabinet out after pulling Sheila downwards (hence the bunching of her nightdress), and then unplugged the phone from the socket in the wall, he had to push the cabinet back to its original position. He also placed the radio/clock on the top to hide the obvious mark left behind by the telephone.
But in his panic, and like all pre-planned murders, things go awry and the unexpected happens. And they miss crucial things...
As you can see by this photo of Sheila, the leg of the bedside cabinet is ON TOP of her hair!
The ONLY way Sheila’s hair could have become trapped under that leg is by someone pushing the cabinet back to the wall, and in doing so resting the leg on her hair. The photograph proves that. You can SEE it.
No wonder the Home Secretary went ballistic at Essex Police for missing SUCH obvious evidence that Sheila had been murdered, as had all the family, by one of their own — JEREMY BAMBER,
I don't think her hair is under the leg Spy, her head is just close to it.
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I don't think her hair is under the leg Spy, he head is just close to it.
I agree. Suggesting that the police didn't notice that significant fact is taking wishful thinking too far.
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I agree. Suggesting that the police didn't notice that significant fact is taking wishful thinking too far.
My spacial awareness is limited so try as I may, I can't see how her hair is anywhere near the table leg. The angle appears to be wrong for such. It looks to me as if her head is beside the table.
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New angle of Sheila’s head with her hair UNDER that cabinet leg
I’ve shown that to various people, including a professional photographer who says you cannot NOT see it 😳
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How can we be sure of anything that PC Bird photographed as the police could have moved Sheila or that bedside cabinet for that matter at any time.
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How can we be sure of anything that PC Bird photographed as the police could have moved Sheila or that bedside cabinet for that matter at any time.
The police were slapdash, that’s true, but they never moved Sheila’s body, or anything else, until after the photographer took crime scene pictures. There was no need to.
They did move Sheila’s arm when they removed the gun to allow the photographer to take pictures if the blood beneath her arm on her nightdress, but they never moved her body.
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The police were slapdash, that’s true, but they never moved Sheila’s body, or anything else, until after the photographer took crime scene pictures. There was no need to.
They did move Sheila’s arm when they removed the gun to allow the photographer to take pictures if the blood beneath her arm on her nightdress, but they never moved her body.
Again, how do you know all of this is fact? Is this still your theory?
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New angle of Sheila’s head with her hair UNDER that cabinet leg
I’ve shown that to various people, including a professional photographer who says you cannot NOT see it 😳
That certainly makes a difference. However, I'm not entirely convinced the table leg was ON her hair. Bearing in mind how thick was Sheila's hair, it's not impossible that her head was pushed against the table leg, causing her hair to splay out around it.
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That certainly makes a difference. However, I'm not entirely convinced the table leg was ON her hair. Bearing in mind how thick was Sheila's hair, it's not impossible that her head was pushed against the table leg, causing her hair to splay out around it.
....or the front leg rose slightly as the table tilted back as she slumped against it.
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....or the front leg rose slightly as the table tilted back as she slumped against it.
Given the weight of the human skull, a valid possibility.
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Thickest suggestion of the month
I’ve tables very similar to that, and they’re extremely heavy.
You just can’t stand it, can you?
You can’t bear it...
What sort of work did you do before you retired 15 years ago? Physical work?😌
Thank you for the endorsement - if you think it's thick, then it means I'm on the right track.
I can't bear that you think bedside tables are heavy? Until you just burdened me with that knowledge I hadn't given it a thought. But now I'm going to have to unpick that statement down to metaphysical level.
...and you could say physical work, yeh.
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Thank you for the endorsement - if you think it's thick, then it means I'm on the right track.
I can't bear that you think bedside tables are heavy? Until you just burdened me with that knowledge I hadn't given it a thought. But now I'm going to have to unpick that statement down to metaphysical level.
...and you could say physical work, yeh.
Unpick it while you’re queuing outside Aldi
Off you pop
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Unpick it while you’re queuing outside Aldi
Off you pop
I've done it.
You're wrong. As usual.
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Let's leave out the insults.
Thank you.
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Unpick it while you’re queuing outside Aldi
Off you pop
Nowt wrong with Aldi - but no queueing in these dark times! %56&
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Nowt wrong with Aldi - but no queueing in these dark times! %56&
Aldi will have to do until they open that much talked about branch of Fortnum and Mason in the Strand Shopping Centre in Bootle.
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Nowt wrong with Aldi - but no queueing in these dark times! %56&
The General said he was going to Aldi a few posts previously, Caroline
I wasn’t having a pop at him...they sell some excellent wines, actually, which he probably sups to calm his nerves 😌