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News and current affairs => A look at the news stories currently making the headlines. => Topic started by: Holly Goodhead on March 10, 2021, 09:53:38 PM

Title: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Holly Goodhead on March 10, 2021, 09:53:38 PM
I’m with Meghan’s father, Thomas Markle, and Piers Morgan on this one.  I don’t see how commenting on the possible skin colour of a mixed raced unborn child is in any way racist?  How often do you hear people say ‘oh he/she has his/her father’s/mother’s eyes/nose/chin/hair colour etc?  Or ‘I wonder if he/she will take after his/her father and have red hair’?   Perfectly normal and just people in wonderment about biology.

The couple come over as privileged with a massive sense of entitlement.  They claim to be pro-social and yet with all the problems in the world it seems to be all about them! 

Prince Harry seems to have forgotten how disrespectful his Nazi wearing fancy dress costume was to victims of the holocaust. 

I seem to recall the tabloids also had it in for the Middletons during the early days of William’s relationship with Kate eg wisteria sisters reference to Kate and Pippa 'social climbing' and ‘doors to manual’ with reference to Carole Middleton’s former career as an air hostess.

As US TV presenter Megyn Kelly said, if you’re in the public eye tabloid rubbish comes with the turf and Megan needs to wear her big girl pants! 
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on March 10, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
I’d be very delighted if I never heard the words “Meghan and Harry” ever again.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 10, 2021, 10:14:26 PM
Tis a difficult one as no one knows in what context it was said or by whom, but I very much doubt that it was Racist.
Besides that, so much of this Wretched Interview is off mark and actually not true.  Also these two have got their perceptions totally screwed.

"Full of sound and fury signifying nothing."
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 10, 2021, 10:21:31 PM

The poor multi millionaire princess was depressed what with being enormously rich & trapped inside a huge mansion.

It's such a shame she had no ability or funding to access private mental healthcare.

Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 10, 2021, 10:25:43 PM
The poor multi millionaire princess was depressed what with being enormously rich & trapped inside a huge mansion.

It's such a shame she had no ability or funding to access private mental healthcare.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 10, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
.....and Piers Morgan was absolutely right, whilst Harry's 99 year old grandfather lay seriously ill in hospital, he chose to go on international TV & let his wife slag off the family for 2 hours.

(As it happens an additional 2 hours of footage was left on the cutting room floor. Meaning these privileged, want for nothing celebrities spent 4 whole hours tearing chunks out of their family & claiming to be oppressed, for a fee.)
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on March 10, 2021, 10:28:42 PM
Tis a difficult one as no one knows in what context it was said or by whom, but I very much doubt that it was Racist.
Besides that, so much of this Wretched Interview is off mark and actually not true.  Also these two have got their perceptions totally screwed.

"Full of sound and fury signifying nothing."
My daughter recently dated a black man and we had a light-hearted conversation about what her baby would look like (were she to have had one).  I guess I should out myself so that I can be publicly cancelled for initiating the “racist” conversation.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on March 10, 2021, 10:41:39 PM
Perfectly summed up by a Times reader

“But in this day and age, an accusation of racism is an incredibly serious charge, which can be ruinous to someone's career, relationships, and inclusion in polite society.  Yet it is an accusation bandied about easily, without care for consequences.  It is astonishing that - to my knowledge - the courts have not yet addressed the defamatory implications of such a claim.
If someone wishes to level an allegation of racism, they must be precise in the facts of their claim, state more than just a subjective feeling, and provide credible reasons why they are sure that an action/comment was made with racist intent.  Otherwise, one risks doing incredible damage to another person for what might have been a simple misunderstanding.  We must stop putting subjective feelings on a pedestal, and demand both sides of the story and the broader context.
In the case of Meghan Markle, she says that she was not a witness of the comments.  She relies on Prince Harry's testimony.  Moreover, the timing of both of their accounts seems to clash.  However, most importantly, we do not know if what the unnamed member of the Royal Family said was benign/naive (speculating on the appearance of children is common in mixed race families) or malicious.
Yet by putting out a vague accusation against an unnamed member, with little details on the context or content of comments, Harry and Meghan have publicised an unanswerable charge.  And from a unilateral yet shrouded assertion lacking in detail, many commentators and politicians rush forward to denounce problems of racism within the British monarchy, press and society.  This will not do.  The charge of racism is extremely serious, and should not be bandied about lightly.  We must question and scrutinise subjective feelings, we must demand evidence, we must ask for names, and we must require credibility.  Otherwise, we are left with a Kafkaesque world where vague charges and sentiments trump evidence and procedure”.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 11, 2021, 08:12:09 AM

Watch it.  Your Free Speech is going down the pan.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: jassi on March 11, 2021, 09:20:06 AM
I was surprised that at the time Harry said that this happened, he even knew what racism was. I thought his 'education' came later.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: mrswah on March 11, 2021, 05:26:44 PM
I have very little time for Meghan and Harry, and I didn't even bother to watch the interview-------but, I can understand Meghan construing that remark as possibly racist, even if that wasn't meant.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Vertigo Swirl on March 11, 2021, 05:30:33 PM
I have very little time for Meghan and Harry, and I didn't even bother to watch the interview-------but, I can understand Meghan construing that remark as possibly racist, even if that wasn't meant.
The remark (whatever it may have been) was a gift for anyone who wanted to play the race / victim card, a card which Ms Markle is playing very shrewdly indeed IMO.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 11, 2021, 05:33:16 PM
The remark (whatever it may have been) was a gift for anyone who wanted to play the race / victim card, a card which Ms Markle is playing very shrewdly indeed IMO.

Unfortunately Meghan and Harry didn't agree on when it was supposedly said.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: mrswah on March 11, 2021, 10:06:36 PM
The remark (whatever it may have been) was a gift for anyone who wanted to play the race / victim card, a card which Ms Markle is playing very shrewdly indeed IMO.


Yes, I agree with that too.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Mr Gray on March 13, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
I totally agree with Piers.....much of what she has said can be shown to be false. She was on 300,000 per year in Suits and now they are reputed to be worth 100 million. harry doesnt seem happy and I think she will tire of him.....once shes made her fortune.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 13, 2021, 09:21:55 PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9358299/Fury-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-cover-shows-Queen-kneeling-Meghan-Markles-neck.html

Big sense of humour fail.  In My Opinion.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: jassi on March 13, 2021, 09:34:47 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9358299/Fury-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-cover-shows-Queen-kneeling-Meghan-Markles-neck.html

Big sense of humour fail.  In My Opinion.

Cartoons aren't always meant to be funny.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 13, 2021, 09:39:04 PM
Cartoons aren't always meant to be funny.

I think that this one is.  At the very least it is laughable.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Wonderfulspam on March 15, 2021, 09:02:26 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9358299/Fury-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-cover-shows-Queen-kneeling-Meghan-Markles-neck.html

Big sense of humour fail.  In My Opinion.

This is disgusting, I'm offended & I'm going to have to behead a cartoonist.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 15, 2021, 11:17:17 AM
This is disgusting, I'm offended & I'm going to have to behead a cartoonist.

Could you hurry up, or at least try to.  My money's on The Police.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on March 19, 2021, 08:08:35 PM
Cartoons aren't always meant to be funny.

But MEGHAN the duck ess of sucksess lives in a cartoon fairytale.  The little mermaid? A proper Disneyprincess fairytale wedding with veil covering face- and full white virgin wedding. @)(++(* I wonder what she wore to her  very private' garden wedding. It was so private even the ARCHBISHOP didn't even know!   @)(++(*

Something  to make you smile and wonder.
a couple of memes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sByBJCznE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjG7ygykj9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWeWbrzqA8

I am better than Diana...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIC5znWxZt4



Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: John on March 20, 2021, 11:32:45 AM
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Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Holly Goodhead on March 22, 2021, 10:24:39 PM
I wonder if Meghan is aware that Harry referred to two of his military comrades as "Paki" and "Raghead"?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIUjfVPrCuY
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Eleanor on March 23, 2021, 04:19:42 AM
I wonder if Meghan is aware that Harry referred to two of his military comrades as "Paki" and "Raghead"?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIUjfVPrCuY

She will do by now.  But she's woken him up doncha know.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on April 05, 2021, 12:05:01 AM
I wonder if Meghan is aware that Harry referred to two of his military comrades as "Paki" and "Raghead"?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIUjfVPrCuY

AND  the nazi uniform.
Title: Re: Meghan and Harry's Interview With Oprah Winfrey
Post by: IndigoJ on April 06, 2021, 07:33:30 PM
pair of vile individuals  %56&