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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Brietta on April 14, 2022, 09:05:21 AM
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"If it was Bruckner, prove it": Manuel Maria Rodrigues on the disappearance of Maddie McCann
Afternoon commentator CM talks about new evidence from the English police against the German suspect.
it's necessary and it's been 14 years now. therefore, the testimonial evidence is very important but it has to be properly appreciated, and therefore if there are people who say they know that brueckner was close to Madeleine's parents on that date, it is necessary to know why, how do they know that, with whom and more.
if this is credible, it is not a certificate of guilt in relation to the crimes committed against Madeleine, because he could have been there without having done anything.
Anyway I insist, it is a good candidate for crimes against children. the truth is that the German police promise about it and it's been a good few months and no concrete evidence.
I never said that it wasn't brueckner, what I always said was: if it was him, prove it, because it's him or someone else, that you present evidence that really allows us to be absolutely sure that it was him, otherwise, I'll never believe about him being the author of this crime. and I'm tired of saying it :
unless the child turns up alive or dead, or if some piece of clothing appears that she was wearing it in that day, if that doesn't happen, invent whatever or whoever you want, it doesn't convince me.
https://www.cm-tv.pt/programas/entretenimento/tarde-cm/detalhe/se-foi-o-bruckner-provem-no-manuel-maria-rodrigues-sobre-desaparecimento-de-maddie-mccann
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"If it was Bruckner, prove it": Manuel Maria Rodrigues on the disappearance of Maddie McCann
Afternoon commentator CM talks about new evidence from the English police against the German suspect.
it's necessary and it's been 14 years now. therefore, the testimonial evidence is very important but it has to be properly appreciated, and therefore if there are people who say they know that brueckner was close to Madeleine's parents on that date, it is necessary to know why, how do they know that, with whom and more.
if this is credible, it is not a certificate of guilt in relation to the crimes committed against Madeleine, because he could have been there without having done anything.
Anyway I insist, it is a good candidate for crimes against children. the truth is that the German police promise about it and it's been a good few months and no concrete evidence.
I never said that it wasn't brueckner, what I always said was: if it was him, prove it, because it's him or someone else, that you present evidence that really allows us to be absolutely sure that it was him, otherwise, I'll never believe about him being the author of this crime. and I'm tired of saying it :
unless the child turns up alive or dead, or if some piece of clothing appears that she was wearing it in that day, if that doesn't happen, invent whatever or whoever you want, it doesn't convince me.
https://www.cm-tv.pt/programas/entretenimento/tarde-cm/detalhe/se-foi-o-bruckner-provem-no-manuel-maria-rodrigues-sobre-desaparecimento-de-maddie-mccann
It won't convince anyone unless evidence is provided
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"If it was Bruckner, prove it": Manuel Maria Rodrigues on the disappearance of Maddie McCann
Afternoon commentator CM talks about new evidence from the English police against the German suspect.
it's necessary and it's been 14 years now. therefore, the testimonial evidence is very important but it has to be properly appreciated, and therefore if there are people who say they know that brueckner was close to Madeleine's parents on that date, it is necessary to know why, how do they know that, with whom and more.
if this is credible, it is not a certificate of guilt in relation to the crimes committed against Madeleine, because he could have been there without having done anything.
Anyway I insist, it is a good candidate for crimes against children. the truth is that the German police promise about it and it's been a good few months and no concrete evidence.
I never said that it wasn't brueckner, what I always said was: if it was him, prove it, because it's him or someone else, that you present evidence that really allows us to be absolutely sure that it was him, otherwise, I'll never believe about him being the author of this crime. and I'm tired of saying it :
unless the child turns up alive or dead, or if some piece of clothing appears that she was wearing it in that day, if that doesn't happen, invent whatever or whoever you want, it doesn't convince me.
https://www.cm-tv.pt/programas/entretenimento/tarde-cm/detalhe/se-foi-o-bruckner-provem-no-manuel-maria-rodrigues-sobre-desaparecimento-de-maddie-mccann
Was CM aware in January that the case was going to be closed? Unless they were, they could hardly be 'setting a scene'.
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The hatred will never cease.
"If it was Bruckner, prove it": Manuel Maria Rodrigues
As far as is known the BKA believe they already hold the evidence to "prove it" and it remains to be seen precisely where that will lead.
Perhaps a bit premature of Manuel Maria Rodrigues to start sowing the seeds of denial before due process has even begun.
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It won't convince anyone unless evidence is provided
I don't think it matters how much evidence is provided nor do I think that even if the evidence is proved in a court of law it will ever be sufficient for some.
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I don't think it matters how much evidence is provided nor do I think that even if the evidence is proved in a court of law it will ever be sufficient for some.
True, but I don't think Kate or Gerry will actually be charged, alas.
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I don't think it matters how much evidence is provided nor do I think that even if the evidence is proved in a court of law it will ever be sufficient for some.
This will go on forever. If only I live that long.
However, the number of Sceptics continues to diminish and to descend into fibs, insults and obfuscation. But the hard core supporters carry on. Not so many these days but then it is all rather boring.
The ECHR decision will arrive eventually and Wolters will do something. Meanwhile, Brueckner is where he out to be.
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True, but I don't think Kate or Gerry will actually be charged, alas.
Poor you. What a bummer.
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This will go on forever. If only I live that long.
However, the number of Sceptics continues to diminish and to descend into fibs, insults and obfuscation. But the hard core supporters carry on. Not so many these days but then it is all rather boring.
The ECHR decision will arrive eventually and Wolters will do something. Meanwhile, Brueckner is where he out to be.
He's eligible for parole in 20 months. Which, ironically, is the same amount of time he's been accused without being arrested.
This case keeps delivering these serendipitous balances of yin and yang. Ommmmmmmm.....
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Poor you. What a bummer.
Homophobe.
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Was CM aware in January that the case was going to be closed? Unless they were, they could hardly be 'setting a scene'.
Does the link provided in the Opening Post say that?
CM and others such as sceptical journalists have been 'setting a scene' for may years now. Do you really think they are going to give up leading the speculation that source of income provides whatever happens in Madeleine's case.
Time’s up for Met’s 11-year Maddie probe
By Natasha Donn -20th March 2022
Over €15 million spent: “fears are prime suspect won’t be charged”
Operation Grange, the 11-year Metropolitan police investigation into the disappearance in Portugal in 2007 of British toddler Madeleine McCann appears to be drawing to a close.
UK tabloids have said as much today, not giving an exact date – just some time “later this year”.
https://www.portugalresident.com/times-up-for-mets-11-year-maddie-probe/
Over the years many highly speculative scenes have been set for Madeleine's case - and everyone has an opinion.
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I don't think it matters how much evidence is provided nor do I think that even if the evidence is proved in a court of law it will ever be sufficient for some.
Now who's being premature in their judgement ?
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Does the link provided in the Opening Post say that?
No, but the thread title raises the question. My answer, therefore is that the link provided was not related to setting the scene for the conclusion of the Madeleine McCann case.
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No, but the thread title raises the question. My answer, therefore is that the link provided was not related to setting the scene for the conclusion of the Madeleine McCann case.
Going on past record ~ when Madeleine's case was archived in Portugal in 2008, there remained those who have been unable to relinquish the preconceptions they had nurtured and who remain in denial to this day.
The evidence resulted in the archiving. But the evidence did not banish the misconceived speculation even up to this day. Despite irrefutable evidence now substantiating denied events of the time, for example the assaults perpetrated on children in their beds by an intruder.
Already I can see the Genesis of the scenarios which will replace the evidence much as happened in 2008.
I've done this not because I am psychic but because unlike some - I am capable of learning from experience.
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Going on past record ~ when Madeleine's case was archived in Portugal in 2008, there remained those who have been unable to relinquish the preconceptions they had nurtured and who remain in denial to this day.
The evidence resulted in the archiving. But the evidence did not banish the misconceived speculation even up to this day. Despite irrefutable evidence now substantiating denied events of the time, for example the assaults perpetrated on children in their beds by an intruder.
Already I can see the Genesis of the scenarios which will replace the evidence much as happened in 2008.
I've done this not because I am psychic but because unlike some - I am capable of learning from experience.
Speaking of evidence nothing you are saying is evidence that CM were setting a scene. Others are definitely doing that though;
The Sun reported that it was understood Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, both 54, are aware of the impending closure but have vowed to continue their search.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10713505/Portuguese-police-continue-inquiry-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html
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No, but the thread title raises the question. My answer, therefore is that the link provided was not related to setting the scene for the conclusion of the Madeleine McCann case.
Which as it should be for a discussion forum.
But I did post another link https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12347.msg680869#msg680869 rife with the prejudices of years which you appear to have studiously ignored.
Opinions are sometimes formed by journalism and I think it can take a good one not to be beguiled by personal prejudice into promoting things as they would like them to be not as they actually are.
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Speaking of evidence nothing you are saying is evidence that CM were setting a scene. Others are definitely doing that though;
The Sun reported that it was understood Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, both 54, are aware of the impending closure but have vowed to continue their search.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10713505/Portuguese-police-continue-inquiry-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html
You've lost me a wee bitty there.
Do you think CM tv is yet another organ for promulgating hatred and misinformation aimed at 'McCann'.
Is Manuel Maria Rodrigues the voice of CM - is he a presenter - or is he a person being interviewed just voicing his own opinion.
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Which as it should be for a discussion forum.
But I did post another link https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12347.msg680869#msg680869 rife with the prejudices of years which you appear to have studiously ignored.
Opinions are sometimes formed by journalism and I think it can take a good one not to be beguiled by personal prejudice into promoting things as they would like them to be not as they actually are.
It's a matter of opinion whether Natasha Donn's article is 'rife with prejudices' or not.
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I've got a good one.
Brueckner done it but it's The McCann's fault anyway.
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You've lost me a wee bitty there.
Do you think CM tv is yet another organ for promulgating hatred and misinformation aimed at 'McCann'.
Is Manuel Maria Rodrigues the voice of CM - is he a presenter - or is he a person being interviewed just voicing his own opinion.
I have no opinion regarding CM or Manuel Maria Rodrigues, except that there's no evidence that either or both of them were trying to set a scene for the conclusion of Madeleine's case.
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Now who's being premature in their judgement ?
I thought it was a male thing, but hey oh!............................. some one will object .
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I've got a good one.
Brueckner done it but it's The McCann's fault anyway.
CB did what though, in all the guff Wolt has put out , he's never mentioned 5a.
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CB did what though, in all the guff Wolt has put out , he's never mentioned 5a.
I don't know. Does it matter?
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If it was Bruckner, prove it"
Indeed, 2007 3 arguidos,' 2011 the PJ reopened with its suggested a suspect, 2014 not wishing to be left out OG questioned some prime suspects, 2020 the Germans roll up, still no charges or even questions of a prime suspect, any one see a pattern here, simple really no or lack of evidence to go the whole 9 yards.
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I don't know. Does it matter?
Some ones got to set the scene in any trial.
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Some ones got to set the scene in any trial.
It won't matter, don't you see, so long as it The McCann's fault.
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It won't matter, don't you see, so long as it The McCann's fault.
Well you never know, CB if charged might reveal just how easy it was to get in to 5a between the written down timelines. 8(0(*
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Well you never know, CB if charged might reveal just how easy it was to get in to 5a between the written down timelines. 8(0(*
Perhaps it will all be revealed. Wolters said he had enough evidence to charge him. Mind you, that doesn't mean he has enough to be sure of a conviction.
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Well you never know, CB if charged might reveal just how easy it was to get in to 5a between the written down timelines. 8(0(*
I don't think relying on Brueckner to set the scene is going to help much.
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Well you never know, CB if charged might reveal just how easy it was to get in to 5a between the written down timelines. 8(0(*
Jumping through hoops comes to mind.
Proving beyond doubt where he was from 8 pm onward should be fun.
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Jumping through hoops comes to mind.
Proving beyond doubt where he was from 8 pm onward should be fun.
Being Convicted of Abduction is the least of Brueckner's problems.
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Being Convicted of Abduction is the least of Brueckner's problems.
You reckon ?
He has no outstanding charges to face at present and might soon be out of jail.
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You reckon ?
He has no outstanding charges to face at present and might soon be out of jail.
Good Luck with that one.
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Oh I don't mind if he's there for ever and a day, just as long as it's for something he did.
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I've got a good one.
Brueckner done it but it's The McCann's fault anyway.
Ouch Eleanor - initial reaction - that made me laugh! It's obviously getting all too much for me.
But in retrospect and going on past history it certainly does sound as if it would be considered a plausible future scenario for some.
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I have no opinion regarding CM or Manuel Maria Rodrigues, except that there's no evidence that either or both of them were trying to set a scene for the conclusion of Madeleine's case.
Then be so kind as to allow me to suggest you parse your sentences with a modicum of care "Speaking of evidence nothing you are saying is evidence that CM were setting a scene."
In that way there will be no mistaking what you intend to say and no mistake in your interpretation of what I have posted.
Words are all and whatever Manuel Maria Rodrigues intended to say he has left it open to the interpretation that he has left room for future scenarios.
I believe this man may be an author? in which case he will know how to use language to best effect.
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I don't think relying on Brueckner to set the scene is going to help much.
I imagine that if tried and convicted Brueckner will be far too busy drafting his appeals for one thing or another to be bothered.
As well as perhaps contacting those structuring the post trial narrative to see if they have any notes worth comparing.
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Ouch Eleanor - initial reaction - that made me laugh! It's obviously getting all too much for me.
But in retrospect and going on past history it certainly does sound as if it would be considered a plausible future scenario for some.
Change 'Brueckner' for anyone or everyone and the conclusion could be the same. But I was just trying to help.
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Jumping through hoops comes to mind.
Proving beyond doubt where he was from 8 pm onward should be fun.
You might need a diagram illustrating exactly how a burglar might enter premises - most have a fair idea of how it is done.
I think that you have your head stuck in issues which you think are priorities but which are of little importance in proving a case. Independent evidence will will dictate all of that.
Mind you the wee niggle you seem to have since you mention it; might prove useful for further supposition to keep the rumour machine in tip top operation for the next fifteen years.
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Being Convicted of Abduction is the least of Brueckner's problems.
I would have thought so too.
But then I remember there are different priorities for those who want Madeleine found and those who have been bitching about looking for her for fifteen years now.
'tis why my interest regarding the resistance I have noted for the future in balance with past and present denial of current events.
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I imagine that if tried and convicted Brueckner will be far too busy drafting his appeals for one thing or another to be bothered.
As well as perhaps contacting those structuring the post trial narrative to see if they have any notes worth comparing.
Or, busy drawing cartoons.
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Although there is speculation there has been no official announcement that Operation Grange is going to be concluded or why.
Portugal's Attorney General's Office is said to have denied their case will close.
Germany seem to be saying nothing.
So all three could continue ad infinitum for all we know.
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German prosecutors say they WILL continue case against prime Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner despite Scotland Yard winding down its operation
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10716061/German-prosecutors-continue-case-against-prime-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckner.html
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Although there is speculation there has been no official announcement that Operation Grange is going to be concluded or why.
Portugal's Attorney General's Office is said to have denied their case will close.
Germany seem to be saying nothing.
So all three could continue ad infinitum for all we know.
Germany has confirmed that they will continue with the investigation and CB is their prime and only suspect. I wonder how you rationalise this to yourself…
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Davel payed me an enormous compliment, albeit not anything that I was looking for. Or anything that actually mattered, unless to me. I have never been partisan. I don't even know what that means.
Davel's comment disappeared within half an hour, never to be seen again. But I did catch it.
Is this what this Forum has come to? The only moderator that had the ability to use a bit of common sense after nine years?
What a very sorry tale. Sack her.
No, this has not done me any favours. But I have a very long memory of things when most of you weren't even around, or even interested.
Most of you make me feel ill.
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Davel payed me an enormous compliment, albeit not anything that I was looking for. Or anything that actually mattered, unless to me. I have never been partisan. I don't even know what that means.
Davel's comment disappeared within half an hour, never to be seen again. But I did catch it.
Is this what this Forum has come to? The only moderator that had the ability to use a bit of common sense after nine years?
What a very sorry tale. Sack her.
No, this has not done me any favours. But I have a very long memory of things when most of you weren't even around, or even interested.
Most of you make me feel ill.
Can't help you, I'm afraid. I seldom read anything he posts.
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You reckon ?
He has no outstanding charges to face at present and might soon be out of jail.
I thought he was going to be in court for the assault of a child and the rape of a woman?
Sorry my mistake Wolters has said it's not true. [Though maybe he will at a later date], we'll have to wait and see
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Can't help you, I'm afraid. I seldom read anything he posts.
Or anything complimentary Davel said about me. As if it even mattered.
Why should you care?
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I thought he was going to be in court for the assault of a child and the rape of a woman?
Sorry my mistake Wolters has said it's not true. [Though maybe he will at a later date], we'll have to wait and see
Newspaper speculation wasn't it ?
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Newspaper speculation wasn't it ?
Absolutely. It usually is.
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So, same old same old. And not actually getting anywhere. This seems to be the name of the game:
I think that this is dreadful. And really shouldn't be allowed. Although with only Judges in Germany I don't suppose it matters all that much.
The whole thing has been disgusting. Although I am not entirely blaming Germany.
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So, same old same old. And not actually getting anywhere. This seems to be the name of the game:
I think that this is dreadful. And really shouldn't be allowed. Although with only Judges in Germany I don't suppose it matters all that much.
The whole thing has been disgusting. Although I am not entirely blaming Germany.
The wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly at the best of times even in pre-pandemic days. I think it was less than helpful of Amaral to release the precise information which allowed Brueckner to be named prematurely,
I'm still puzzled as to why he broke cover to do that (desperation perhaps?). As for the rest of his misleading information I think that may have been with an eye to the future as his escape clause. Given the vagaries of the Courts should Brueckner's case be heard by judges ~ maybe he considered it worth a gamble at the time.
But I think he has miscalculated with that one.
I think the Germans have been doing a good job in the pursuit of Justice, Eleanor. So I'm definitely blaming nothing on them.
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Newspaper speculation wasn't it ?
Yes. It happened a lot to the McCann's. I remember reading the headlines saying 'Madeleine's blood found in hire car". of course it was rubbish, but it does a lot of damage.
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Yes. It happened a lot to the McCann's. I remember reading the headlines saying 'Madeleine's blood found in hire car". of course it was rubbish, but it does a lot of damage.
And headlines such as this being later proven to be huge inaccuracies, such is the power of propaganda there are still those who believe them.
Much of the misinformation at the time emanated from the Amaral team.
Just as much of the misinformation in circulation now emanates from Amaral.
It worked for him then which makes me wonder if he is setting the stage for it again ~ starting with the "Patsy" assertions.
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The wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly at the best of times even in pre-pandemic days. I think it was less than helpful of Amaral to release the precise information which allowed Brueckner to be named prematurely,
I'm still puzzled as to why he broke cover to do that (desperation perhaps?). As for the rest of his misleading information I think that may have been with an eye to the future as his escape clause. Given the vagaries of the Courts should Brueckner's case be heard by judges ~ maybe he considered it worth a gamble at the time.
But I think he has miscalculated with that one.
I think the Germans have been doing a good job in the pursuit of Justice, Eleanor. So I'm definitely blaming nothing on them.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
I think that Breuckner was set up by the perps and Amaral deliberately released the fact that CB was involved. He is on the other side in my opinion
It seems this was an effort to take the heat off those involved, the perps ... and arranged so that the Mccann Supporters would get worked up about it, at times saying things that were unwise. So much so ... and over a long period ... that I fear CB is no longer prosecutable. He has been judged by the world already.
Just my thoughts and I hope that I am wrong, if he indeed is guilty.
In my thinking, he has the ablities, is a nasty pervert, it seems he was near ... and there are reports from people who seemingly have reasons to believe that he did it. But I do notice that many of these people are not desirables, even criminals
However, as far as I am concerned he is still innocent, despite what Wolters has to say. When some solid proof is supplied, I will believe more.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
I think that Breuckner was set up by the perps and Amaral deliberately released the fact that CB was involved. And for a reason. Perhaps I am wrong?
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I have said it before and I will say it again.
I think that Breuckner was set up by the perps and Amaral deliberately released the fact that CB was involved. He is on the other side in my opinion
It seems this was an effort to take the heat off those involved, the perps ... and arranged so that the Mccann Supporters would get worked up about it, at times saying things that were unwise. So much so ... and over a long period ... that I fear CB is no longer prosecutable. He has been judged by the world already.
Just my thoughts and I hope that I am wrong, if he indeed is guilty.
In my thinking, he has the ablities, is a nasty pervert, it seems he was near ... and there are reports from people who seemingly have reasons to believe that he did it. But I do notice that many of these people are not desirables, even criminals
However, as far as I am concerned he is still innocent, despite what Wolters has to say. When some solid proof is supplied, I will believe more.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
I think that Breuckner was set up by the perps and Amaral deliberately released the fact that CB was involved. And for a reason. Perhaps I am wrong?
Any with a mind to do so has had fifteen years to set things in motion. Amaral has already set the wheels in motion for the 'patsy' theory and I think it might be an option for his defence.
However - if there is a 'mr big' he certainly won't have been crawling around the back streets of Luz - that would have been a job for a Brueckner.
The police have been having success in bringing down vile networks; there may be something in that too.
Just need to wait until they break their silence.
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Any with a mind to do so has had fifteen years to set things in motion. Amaral has already set the wheels in motion for the 'patsy' theory and I think it might be an option for his defence.
However - if there is a 'mr big' he certainly won't have been crawling around the back streets of Luz - that would have been a job for a Brueckner.
The police have been having success in bringing down vile networks; there may be something in that too.
Just need to wait until they break their silence.
Amaral has already set the wheels in motion for the 'patsy' theory and I think it might be an option for his defence.
I couldn't agree more
However - if there is a 'mr big' he certainly won't have been crawling around the back streets of Luz - that would have been a job for a Brueckner.
However, I think he wasn't far away at the time. I think Mr Big mainly lived well north of Lisbon and returned back up there probably by train, or just possibly by a powered boat. Madeleine travelled by white van at least from the port of Sines (I Think). She might have got to Sines by power boat. Remember the roadside cafe that I visited at Samora Correia, on the old main road, N10 iirc going North? I thnk That she was in the back of a white van that stopped there, lying asleep on a pile of rags.
The woman in the roadside cafe went ballistic when I took a photo of the (then green) roadside cafe. She yelled at me in a language that nobory has recognised yet. Might be Russian, mght be some other language described as hard by a friend who is a bit of a linguist
The police have been having success in bringing down vile networks; there may be something in that too.
I have noticed that too. Big success rate at present.
Good thinking Brie.
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Amaral has already set the wheels in motion for the 'patsy' theory and I think it might be an option for his defence.
I couldn't agree more
However - if there is a 'mr big' he certainly won't have been crawling around the back streets of Luz - that would have been a job for a Brueckner.
However, I think he wasn't far away at the time. I think Mr Big mainly lived well north of Lisbon and returned back up there probably by train, or just possibly by a powered boat. Madeleine travelled by white van at least from the port of Sines (I Think). She might have got to Sines by power boat. Remember the roadside cafe that I visited at Samora Correia, on the old main road, (N10 iirc) going North? I thnk That she was in the back of a white van that stopped there, lying asleep on a pile of rags.
The woman in the roadside cafe went ballistic when I took a photo of the (then green) roadside cafe. She yelled at me in a language that nobory has recognised yet. Might be Russian, mght be some other language described as hard by a friend who is a bit of a linguist
The police have been having success in bringing down vile networks; there may be something in that too.
I have noticed that too. Big success rate at present.
Good thinking Brie.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/177112/Portuguese-man-saw-lost-Madeleine
https://people.com/celebrity/portuguese-man-claims-he-saw-madeleine-mccann-after-her-disappearance/
https://www.anorak.co.uk/248879/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-gypsies-child-alerts-and-coronation-street.html
I feel sure that I read she was lying on a pile of rags... But with either, if the PJ stopped the van (it was past Lisbon at this point) , then all the woman had to do was flick the rags/ clothes over Madeleine and say she was using them as a bed during the quite long drive up to Porto
Edited: My apologies for the big font, now reduced
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Yes. It happened a lot to the McCann's. I remember reading the headlines saying 'Madeleine's blood found in hire car". of course it was rubbish, but it does a lot of damage.
Surely it was "inconclusive" rather than "rubbish"?
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Surely it was "inconclusive" rather than "rubbish"?
To say that Madeleine’s blood was found in the hire car is factually inaccurate, hence rubbish.