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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Redblossom on June 19, 2013, 09:49:55 PM
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the mccann supporters support too
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/12/spanish-detectives-asked-me-to-arrange.html
Shockingly bizarre
Why did the Mccanns get involved with so many crooks? metodo 3, halligen and now this medium so called lawyer?
Lawyer who collaborated with investigators at the service of Maddie's Parents to the 'O Crime':
'McCann detectives asked me to get proofs against Gonçalo Amaral'
'Maddie parents foretold their daughter's death'
The lawyer who cooperated with «Método 3» makes surprising revelations
• «Maddie’s parents divined their daughter’s death»
• «Satanic societies and secret services involved in the Maddie Case»
In the book that he is launching this week, Dr Marcos Aragão Correia, the lawyer who defends Leonor in the process in which Joana’s mother accuses five PJ inspectors of having tortured her, reveals how his facet as a medium became important, namely in the discovery of the truth in the Maddie case, allowing «o Crime» to learn about some data, this far kept under secrecy, about the investigations that were carried out by Spanish detective agency Método 3, stressing the highly likely intervention of secret services and satanic sects in the disappearance of the English girl.
Interview by: José Leite
«O Crime» - What do you intend to reveal in this book of yours?
Marcos Aragão – In the book «The Little Girls that Came from the Stars» I mix true facts with romanced ones, approaching new aspects of the private investigation that Maddie’s parents carried out into their daughter’s disappearance. I speak about my powers as a medium and how those powers were useful to develop a private investigation that counted on the support of the Método 3 Detective Agency. I wanted to employ that gift of mine into the discovery of a credible truth about the case of the disappearance of Maddie, stripping myself of any material purposes. The goal was not to earn money – even more so because I fortunately lead an economical life without any financial problems in Madeira – but rather to help those parents who lived in affliction. One of the major teachings of spiritism mentions that it’s only by helping others that we are able to help ourselves. That was what I intended to do: to help this little girl, thus conquering her precious Love.
How did that premonition of yours about the Maddie case happen?
On the 5th of May, upon returning from a spiritist meeting in Madeira, right after going to bed, but before falling asleep, at around midnight, an extraordinary thing happened to me for the first time in my life: I saw the image of a little girl that must have been around 4 years of age, with blond, shoulder-length straight hair, blue eyes, very disturbed, visibly unable to understand what was happening to her, accompanied by a female being of great beauty and great spiritual standing… Then, other images appeared, related to what had happened to her: I saw a strongly built man, blue eyes, somewhat balding and with blondish hair, brutally raping that girl and then strangling her with his hands, throwing the cadaver into a lake. I perceived by a map that was shown to me, that this happened in the Algarve, but I couldn’t read the name of the village. I stress that I hadn’t seen any photo of Maddie before, I only knew, from what I’d heard on the radio, that she was 3 years old.
That individual that you describe, was he ever referred to within the PJ’s investigation?
In fact, there were references about a strongly built individual of British appearance as a suspect. Still, as this was my first vision in my entire life, there was, on my side, a certain reluctance in divulging it. I let a few days pass, even to see whether or not the little girl showed up. Until I gave the lead to the PJ, on the 9th of May, but they never contacted me. Later on, an agent from the PJ in Portimão told me that the investigation’s thesis was not based on abduction anymore. Then, I decided to carry out a private investigation: I went to continental Portugal, and visited the various lakes and dams of the Algarve, until I reached the Arade one which was the only one that precisely matched the scenery that I had seen in my vision. I decided to contact a senior official at Método 3, the detective agency that had been hired by the McCanns to investigate their daughter’s disappearance. When I mentioned that the dam was located in Silves, I noticed that they were surprised and immediately wanted to speak with me.
What happened next?
Two detectives met with me and told me that they had already received thousands of leads, but that mine was corroborated by a physical case that they had already established. It involved a Portuguese truck driver, M. Gautier, who only two days after the disappearance of Madeleine, at around 4 or 5 p.m., while driving down the IC1 road, near the Arade dam, saw two cars parked by the road, an Audi A3 that was driven by a man and a green car (of a very special green) that was driven by a blonde woman. The two vehicles were separated by a small metallic fence, and while driving by in his truck, the driver saw what seemed like an inanimate child to him, being passed from one car to another, wrapped up in a blanket.
But how could he immediately conclude that it was a child?
By the manner in which the body stood out from the blanket, the bent legs and small dimensions made him conclude without hesitation that it was a child. On the other hand, the double caution with which the couple held the blanket on a hot day, became suspicious. It was all extremely strange, and because of that, in November, the truck driver reported everything to the detectives at Método 3, after the Portuguese police simply discarded that mysterious event that he had participated in. According to what he told me himself, the PJ’s elements even ridiculed him as soon as he called them on the day that he witnessed the translation of the body near the metal fence.
And did Método 3 ever investigate that case?
Of course. The Spanish detectives showed M. Gautier the photos of some of the main suspects in the disappearance of Maddie, and found some physiognomic similarities with at least two of them.
I read in the process concerning Maddie’s disappearance, which was archived in the meantime, that the PJ, after picking up on that lead again six months later, discarded it once more, after the analysis of the cellular activation of the antennae of the suspicious couple’s mobile phones, and after questioning the persons that owned a house on that plot…
There, the PJ committed a gross mistake by investigating only that suspect and his girlfriend. The truck driver said that he couldn’t guarantee that it was that precise suspect, but rather that it was a person with similar physiognomic features, mainly in terms of body mass.
The fact is that Método 3 placed their bet on you and Dr Aragão Correia left to do that research in the dam?
Yes, they bet on me, after submitting me to a test in order to prove in an unequivocal manner whether or not my medium abilities and my posture were credible. They were fed up with following false leads. The fact is that the test gave totally positive results, according to what was confirmed to me by the director of the Agency in Barcelona herself, and as a consequence of that, Método 3 offered full support to my research. But given the fact that Maddie’s parents preferred to spend the decreasing money from the Madeleine Fund in mainly following leads that placed the hypothesis that their daughter was still alive, they dismissed the possibility of paying professional divers to scrutinize the dam. Then, I offered myself to pay for the first phase of the searches in the dam, having later received much support (even financial) from mediums and spiritists who believed in and corroborated my theory.
Searches that failed to find anything relevant?
Relevant yes, but not sufficient as evidence. Maybe I did some mistake, which may have alerted the possible abductor(s) of the little English girl: on the 11th of January, before the diving in the dam started, «Lux» magazine published those suspicions of mine on their front page. It was almost two months later that the searches were started at the dam, which was more than enough time for the criminals to hide any incriminating residues. Nevertheless, we discovered a girl’s sock that was Maddie’s age. I believe that the sock might have been used by Maddie, although the lab tests failed to detect any human residues, due to the fact that it stayed underwater for such a long time. We also found several interlaced ropes, over five metres long, which could perfectly have been used to tie up the body at the bottom of the dam. All of this was recovered by the divers in an area where there was no garbage. Método 3 always accompanied the searches closely, and took all of those objects to Spain.
Do you believe that Maddie’s abduction and death were an isolated action?
The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the crime’s mobile was. But information that I obtained later on – even from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa – led me to believe the theory, that was exposed by that former PJ chief inspector, that the police wasn’t interested in finding neither Maddie nor the real culprits over her disappearance.
They weren’t interested?
Dr Barra da Costa said that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device that after being implanted in human beings delivers signals to track them down) may be produced on a major scale. At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue because I had never heard about it, but I was careful enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. They added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if at the cost of promoting insecurity policies. Well, the Maddie case fell like “soup in the honey” for the promotion of those insecurity policies, especially as far as children are concerned.
And why Maddie?
Concerning that issue, I obtained precious information with Método 3 (which I reveal in my book) concerning the status of the missing girl’s parents, who had very influent connections with the British government. Apart from that, one day before his daughter disappeared, Gerry received enigmatic coded messages on his mobile phone, which he failed to decipher. Was it a warning from someone connected to the British secret services, trying to warn him about the imminent abduction of his daughter? The fact is that the little girl fell victim to a perfect abduction, carried out by professionals, who studied all of the McCann couple’s steps and left no trace. The PJ’s investigation process even refers the existence of an individual who watched the apartment in a suspicious manner, during the days that preceded the abduction.
But at what level did the parents relate to the British government: with the secret service?
My book also discusses that. There was privileged knowledge by the American secret services, through the English, about those parents’ entire life. And although Gordon Brown is a person of integrity, I cannot say the same about George W. Bush, who is doubtlessly one of the major international terrorists. From here to the perverse secret societies, it’s a small step…
But what were those secret societies?
Everyone knows that president Bush was connected to a secret society, «Skull and Bones», whose elements have the fetish of lying in coffins and participating in satanic rituals. That society recruits for the major totally Machiavellian secret societies that seek to control the earth. Due to their strength at a global level, it would be natural for those societies to know about that privileged relationship between Maddie’s parents and the British government. And that in the case that one of the couple’s children was abducted, they could be certain that Gordon Brown’s government would act and that the case would become immensely media-exposed.
On the other hand, those satanic sects would know beforehand that the crime would never be discovered in Portugal, as it happened, due to the ineptitude that our police present in finding abducted children. And they also knew that the person who is responsible for that investigation in the Portimão department had already proved his incompetence in the Joana case. All of that would reinforce the politics of implementation of the insecurity theories – another abducted child, nobody knows who did it, etc…, benefiting the interests of the industries that will launch said micro-chips. I was shocked when I saw reports that stated that if the technology had been implemented already, Maddie would easily be found. They revealed a lowly attitude by using the little girl’s memory…
How did you appear in the defense of Joana’s mother?
Método 3 asked me to juridically investigate (to arrange for evidence and witnesses) the tortures by Mr Gonçalo Amaral, namely over Joana’s mother. According to them, this was a coordinator who had revealed an embarrassing ineptitude in the investigation of child abductions in the Algarve, systematically incriminating, without no evidence whatsoever, the missing girls’ mothers. I spoke to ACED and asked them if they were interested in me writing independent reports about Leonor and her brother, João Cipriano.
Did you reach any conclusion through those interviews with Leonor and João Cipriano?
I was confronted with two different states of mind: Leonor was shocked about what had happened to her daughter; João displayed no remorse. It is curious that the first time that I sat down in front of him, I saw streams of blood running down his face, as if he was guilty over his niece’s death. I was impressed, but I remained silent and told nobody about the fact. But now, after having questioned tens of persons, after Leonor herself told me that he was not to be trusted, that on the evening of the crime (he had arrived at Leonor’s house just one day before), as soon as the child left the house, he went after her, all of this added to the depositions from relatives and from persons who dealt with them in the village of Figueira, I was fully convinced that it was João Cipriano who murdered Joana. In fact, I learned that he had already been convicted over attempted homicide of an individual, having received 100 euros and a motorbike to do that service.
Why didn’t he reveal the location of the cadaver?
He always held on to the hope that if the cadaver wasn’t found, he would be acquitted. He also incriminated Joana’s mother, saying that she had beaten the little girl, and saying that Leonor had written him letters stating that she had sold her daughter, but she never wrote to him, as prison records prove. In that village everyone knows that Leonor had never beaten the little girl and that she had an excellent relationship with her.
Did you find any mediunic contact points between both cases: Joana’s and Maddie’s?
One “transported” me to the other. It’s curious that the parents of both children received mediunic information themselves: according to data that I obtained with Método 3, before coming to Portugal to spend their holidays at the Ocean Club, Maddie’s mother had a horrendous foreboding that something serious would happen. She even spoke to her husband about cancelling the trip to Portugal but Gerry convinced her to come. Only a few days after Maddie disappeared, the father also had a vision of a long tunnel with a light at its end, where Maddie was standing, surrounded by that magnificent light. Joana’s mother also had a vision of her daughter accompanied by an adult couple. She tried to approach her daughter on a thinking level, but the couple told her that it wasn’t possible and very gently led Joana away. The interpretation that I make on the level of parapsychology, a science that I studied for almost ten years, is that Joana is also in the spiritual world already, accompanied by good spirits who protect her. I thank both for the Love that they have given me, offering me these marvellous missions.
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Gonçalo Amaral replies to Aragão Correia:
«All he wants is publicity and clowning»
Concerning the contents of this interview, we contacted former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral, who clarified as follows:
“I don’t believe that Método 3 chased that lawyer up. What he says is a lie. All he wants is publicity and clowning around. If he was at the Arade dam looking for Maddie after having a ‘vision’, why didn’t he dive into the waters?...”
Concerning possible contacts between Método 3 and the PJ investigators, Gonçalo Amaral refers:
“There was a meeting in Elvas and in Portimão between Dr Paulo Rebelo, the Spanish police, the detectives and millionaire Brian Kennedy, who financially supported the McCanns. The testimony by the truck driver was part of that conversation, but later that lead was dismissed.”
Source: O Crime, 04.12.2008, paper edition
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Shockingly bizarre
Joana Morais?
That's one way of describing her ...
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Shockingly bizarre
Joana Morais?
That's one way of describing her ...
No dear, address the message not the messenger, IF you can
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He sounds completely barking !
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He sounds completely barking !
looks it too
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What is this supposed to mean?
Topic: the man that supports leonora cipriano and who
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I notice not one of the usual suspects are daring to discusss the actual content of the article kindly posted by Redblossom. I wonder why ? 8(0(*
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Bizarre or not, he seems to generally have been successful against Amaral every time. I think the last time was a libel case.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/amaral-perde--e-paga-custas
The lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia and university professor António Pedro Dores were acquitted yesterday, the Court of Faro, the crime of defamation action brought by a former judicial police inspector Goncalo Amaral. The defendants were also acquitted of the claim of € 3,000. Gonçalo Amaral was sentenced to pay court costs.
Not bad for someone who's supposedly insane.
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Bizarre or not, he seems to generally have been successful against Amaral every time. I think the last time was a libel case.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/amaral-perde--e-paga-custas
The lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia and university professor António Pedro Dores were acquitted yesterday, the Court of Faro, the crime of defamation action brought by a former judicial police inspector Goncalo Amaral. The defendants were also acquitted of the claim of € 3,000. Gonçalo Amaral was sentenced to pay court costs.
Not bad for someone who's supposedly insane.
Marcos Aragão Correia. A very, very strange man.
Currently in Brazil.
Singularly appropriate.
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Yes, if you marry a Brazilian that's what is generally required, unless the spouse agrees to move country of course.
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Don't know Mr. Correia in person, so can't judge his state of mind, but he seems to be enjoying rather a successful career, nutjob or not.
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Marcos Correia is a Human Rights Lawyer, and heaven knows we could do with a few more of those, especially in Portugal, mad or not. His career can only improve.
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Marcos Correia is a Human Rights Lawyer, and heaven knows we could do with a few more of those, especially in Portugal, mad or not. His career can only improve.
'His career can only improve.'
Yes, in your dreams. @)(++(* @)(++(*
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Marcos Correia is a Human Rights Lawyer, and heaven knows we could do with a few more of those, especially in Portugal, mad or not. His career can only improve.
It was a case in Portugal that started off Amnesty International in the first place
THE HISTORY OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
Amnesty International began with one man’s outrage and his courage to do something about it. After learning of two Portuguese students imprisoned for raising a toast to freedom in 1961, British lawyer Peter Benenson published an article, “The Forgotten Prisoners” in the Observer newspaper.
That article launched the “Appeal for Amnesty 1961”, a worldwide campaign that provoked a remarkable response. Reprinted in newspapers across the world, his call to action resonated with the values and aspirations of people everywhere. This was the genesis of Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are/history
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It was a case in Portugal that started off Amnesty International in the first place
THE HISTORY OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
Amnesty International began with one man’s outrage and his courage to do something about it. After learning of two Portuguese students imprisoned for raising a toast to freedom in 1961, British lawyer Peter Benenson published an article, “The Forgotten Prisoners” in the Observer newspaper.
That article launched the “Appeal for Amnesty 1961”, a worldwide campaign that provoked a remarkable response. Reprinted in newspapers across the world, his call to action resonated with the values and aspirations of people everywhere. This was the genesis of Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are/history
Amnesty do good work, but this has nothing to do with the Mccann case.
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It was a case in Portugal that started off Amnesty International in the first place
THE HISTORY OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
Amnesty International began with one man’s outrage and his courage to do something about it. After learning of two Portuguese students imprisoned for raising a toast to freedom in 1961, British lawyer Peter Benenson published an article, “The Forgotten Prisoners” in the Observer newspaper.
That article launched the “Appeal for Amnesty 1961”, a worldwide campaign that provoked a remarkable response. Reprinted in newspapers across the world, his call to action resonated with the values and aspirations of people everywhere. This was the genesis of Amnesty International
http://www.amnesty.org/en/who-we-are/history
Really? Amnesty International started with a case in Portugal? Why am I not surprised?
Pity about The Glorious Revolution, which was an absolute farce, by the way, since most of The Portuguese Secret Police finished up in The PJ where they mentored the likes of Goncalo Amaral.
Marcos Correia will have a Client List a mile long by now, I wouldn't wonder.
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Really? Amnesty International started with a case in Portugal? Why am I not surprised?
Pity about The Glorious Revolution, which was an absolute farce, by the way, since most of The Portuguese Secret Police finished up in The PJ where they mentored the likes of Goncalo Amaral.
Marcos Correia will have a Client List a mile long by now, I wouldn't wonder.
Correia also sought the assistance of Amnesty Int'l with regards to the libel case brought by Amaral & Portuguese Judiciary apparently
http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/t3758-gonc-tries-dirty-tricks-with-marcos
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Amnesty do good work, but this has nothing to do with the Mccann case.
No its to do with thread topic, though. Re: the man that supports leonora cipriano and who
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Marcos Aragão Correia. A very, very strange man.
Currently in Brazil.
Singularly appropriate.
Have you met him?
He is NOT, in Brazil.
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Have you met him?
He is NOT, in Brazil.
Did he not marry a Portuguese girl? I thought I read that somewhere?
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Marcos Correia is a Human Rights Lawyer, and heaven knows we could do with a few more of those, especially in Portugal, mad or not. His career can only improve.
Well, Amaral tried, that one, didn't he? to get him sectioned, and as with everything else, he failed
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Have you met him?
He is NOT, in Brazil.
That he were he is reported to have travelled, some time ago.
Meanwhile from the man himself...............
'We read in a number of newspapers today the allegations by Portuguese human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia. That Madeleine McCann was was raped, murdered and her body dumped in a remote reservoir within 48 hours of her disappearance. He goes on to say that this information comes from 'underworld', and that the 'Portuguese Police failed to act because they believed her parents Kate and Gerry were involved'
A very disturbing account and accusations indeed. But what really disturbs me about this horrifying account is that 'Metodo 3 is now investigating'. Based on previous examples of this Private Detectives handling of this case, is this story yet another plant by the already disgraced Metodo 3 ?'
Any comment ?
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Did he not marry a Portuguese girl? I thought I read that somewhere?
No, Mrs B. He married a Brazilian girl.
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No, Mrs B. He married a Brazilian girl.
Sorry, I meant to say BRAZILIAN girl, not Portuguese, my mistake. LOL
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That he were he is reported to have travelled, some time ago.
Meanwhile from the man himself...............
'We read in a number of newspapers today the allegations by Portuguese human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia. That Madeleine McCann was was raped, murdered and her body dumped in a remote reservoir within 48 hours of her disappearance. He goes on to say that this information comes from 'underworld', and that the 'Portuguese Police failed to act because they believed her parents Kate and Gerry were involved'
A very disturbing account and accusations indeed. But what really disturbs me about this horrifying account is that 'Metodo 3 is now investigating'. Based on previous examples of this Private Detectives handling of this case, is this story yet another plant by the already disgraced Metodo 3 ?'
Any comment ?
Just because he travelled to Brazil, you think he moved there? Planes travel both ways, you know. I suppose you believe, the BS, about him running away @)(++(*
No, I won't comment.
Do you hang about the Amazon site with the KaOssis? And weren't you Poppy1, on MM. docmac's number one fan?
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Any man who takes on Human Rights in Portugal would have to be a bit mad. Not that his personal beliefs have anything to do with anything.
He is a good man with no stains against his character, unlike Goncalo Amaral. Amaral started a vendetta against Marcos Correia on more than one count, but failed in all of them.
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Just because he travelled to Brazil, you think he moved there? Planes travel both ways, you know. I suppose you believe, the BS, about him running away @)(++(*
No, I won't comment.
Do you hang about the Amazon site with the KaOssis? And weren't you Poppy1, on MM. docmac's number one fan?
Correia is a nutjob and you're clearly a fan of his. says everything 8-)(--) @)(++(*
P.S. Are planes things that fly in the sky ? @)(++(* @)(++(*
Haven't heard from Doc in a long time, but I'm sure he holds you in the same regard as I do. 8(>((
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Amaral thought the same, over 4 years ago. Where did it get him?
What ever happened to all those law suits Amaral made against Marcos?
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Aragão Correia needs to be hospitalised"
24horas (page 10)
Gonçalo Amaral suggests that the attorney suffers from psychiatric problems
Text: Duarte Baião
07 February 2009
The former Inspector of the Policia Judiciária in Portimão confirmed he will proceed with a lawsuit against Marcos Aragão Correia and suggested that the attorney suffers from psychological problems. He also reaffirmed that he is not an arguido for torture against Leandro Silva
Gonçalo Amaral suggested yesterday, in statements to 24horas, that Marcos Aragão Correia, lawyer for Leonor Cipriano, suffers from a psychiatric illness. This is another episode of verbal war between the ex-inspector of police in Portimão and the lawyer.
"Friends of mine who are connected to medicine, with whom I have spoken, tell me that Aragão Correia is in need of being compulsorily admitted. I think that says it all," said Gonçalo Amaral. "For me, it is not as a person, but only as a lawyer," said the former inspector.
That the lawyer has said that the former inspector has been constituted an arguido by the Public Ministry, due to the practice of alleged crimes of torture against Leandro Silva, husband of Leonor Cipriano, Gonçalo Amaral was peremptory: "No comment because everything is false. I will move with a case (against Aragão Correia). When? Inside the legally established period, that is, I have six months to do so."
The quest to be the leading character
The former inspector of the PJ is to be judged in a case where Leonor Cipriano, mother of Joana, guarantees to have been tortured on the premises of the PJ in order to admit the death of her daughter and the place where the corpse was hidden. In this case, Amaral is charged with failing to denounce. However, Marcos Aragão Correia wants to prove the veracity of the thesis of torture.
"Mr Aragão Correia has a goal, and that is the demand to be the leading character in the limelight. But he also knows that he follows the Order of Lawyers [Bar Association]. I will deal with the case by that establishment, I will deal with the case in court and, I stress, if necessary with a compulsory internment, and that, it seems, is what that man requires," concluded Gonçalo Amaral.
24horas tried to talk to Aragão Correia, but he has remained uncontactable.
Still no date
António Cabrita, the lawyer of Gonçalo Amaral, told 24horas that he had not spoken to his client about the possibility of the two processes: Against Aragão Correia and Leandro Silva. In any case, António Cabrita acknowledged, Gonçalo Amaral "would not even need" his services as he "knows how to bring these cases."
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Yes, extraordinarily successful for a nutjob, perhaps it's an advantage to be one in Portugal?
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Marcos Correia is a Human Rights Lawyer, and heaven knows we could do with a few more of those, especially in Portugal, mad or not. His career can only improve.
He is what?! @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(* Writing an essay doesn't make him a Human Rights Lawyer as the association (ACED) funded by Pedro Dores, that published his paper, is not an official agency.
He never practiced as a lawyer. His only case was Leonor after he forced himself to be accepted by her and worked pro bono. That man is a joke.
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OK, he's a joke that Amaral lost a libel case to - guess that joke ended up to be on Amaral though.
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Bizarre or not, he seems to generally have been successful against Amaral every time. I think the last time was a libel case.
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/amaral-perde--e-paga-custas
The lawyer Marcos Aragão Correia and university professor António Pedro Dores were acquitted yesterday, the Court of Faro, the crime of defamation action brought by a former judicial police inspector Goncalo Amaral. The defendants were also acquitted of the claim of € 3,000. Gonçalo Amaral was sentenced to pay court costs.
Not bad for someone who's supposedly insane.
Aragão Correia era acusado de ter publicado um relatório, em Abril de 2008, em nome da Associação Contra a Exclusão pelo Desenvolvimento (ACED), presidida por António Dores, em que acusava Amaral de ter assistido "de forma complacente" às torturas de que Leonor fora alvo, levadas a cabo pelos seus subordinados. Isto segundo relato que lhe foi feito por Leonor Cipriano.
O tribunal considerou que António Dores "não tinha conhecimento do relatório" e que Aragão Correia "agiu na prossecução de interesses legítimos, convencido de que o depoimento de Leonor Cipriano era verdadeiro, pelo que absolveu ambos os arguidos.
This time Isabel Duarte was defending the men accused of defamation ! May be she's better in this role.
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The most obvious quality of Mr Aragão Correia is to hate Mr Amaral. Why does he ?
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The most obvious quality of Mr Aragão Correia is to hate Mr Amaral. Why does he ?
Perhaps because he (Amaral) is a disgrace to his country and an embarrassment to the PJ.....
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Perhaps because he (Amaral) is a disgrace to his country and an embarrassment to the PJ.....
Hatred needs a personal impact.
Mrs McCann has an argument (how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her), even if this is what she believes or pretends to, not the real, but Aragão Correia ?
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Perhaps because he (Amaral) is a disgrace to his country and an embarrassment to the PJ.....
Wouldn't that be quite understandable given that he classes himself as a human rights lawyer? Amaral lied to the court, not for personal benefit, but to cover up the crime of TORTURE.
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Aragão Correia era acusado de ter publicado um relatório, em Abril de 2008, em nome da Associação Contra a Exclusão pelo Desenvolvimento (ACED), presidida por António Dores, em que acusava Amaral de ter assistido "de forma complacente" às torturas de que Leonor fora alvo, levadas a cabo pelos seus subordinados. Isto segundo relato que lhe foi feito por Leonor Cipriano.
O tribunal considerou que António Dores "não tinha conhecimento do relatório" e que Aragão Correia "agiu na prossecução de interesses legítimos, convencido de que o depoimento de Leonor Cipriano era verdadeiro, pelo que absolveu ambos os arguidos.
This time Isabel Duarte was defending the men accused of defamation ! May be she's better in this role.
And a very good job she did too! She scares the s**, out of Amaral. @)(++(*
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And a very good job she did too! She scares the s**, out of Amaral. @)(++(*
In your dreams. 8-)(--)
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And a very good job she did too! She scares the s**, out of Amaral. @)(++(*
Yes, he's got every reason to fear her due to the case he lost - if she can win against him in one libel trial, she can win against him in another.
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Yes, he's got every reason to fear her due to the case he lost - if she can win against him in one libel trial, she can win against him in another.
The omens are not good for her though are they ? How many times has she lost now in McCann related cases 2, 3 times and she must have advised the McCanns to settle with Amaral before the full trial or why else would they have made the offer ?
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The omens are not good for her though are they ? How many times has she lost now in McCann related cases 2, 3 times and she must have advised the McCanns to settle with Amaral before the full trial or why else would they have made the offer ?
Care to show proof ot these 2/3 cases, she lost?
Who said the McCann's want to settle?.
You obviously know nothing about the case, but wait and see, you might be shocked.
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The omens are not good for her though are they ? How many times has she lost now in McCann related cases 2, 3 times and she must have advised the McCanns to settle with Amaral before the full trial or why else would they have made the offer ?
Lost when the appeal by Mr Amaral on the book ban was upheld
Lost after that with the supreme court, theysaid there could be no comeback by her
No further appeals made by her to any higher authority on the case
In other words, lost overall so far, and not only against Mr Amaral but lost against the publishers and the tv station
As you say not a great foundation to win her alledgedly upcoming case
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Care to show proof ot these 2/3 cases?
Who said the McCann's want to settle?.
You obviously know nothing about the case, but wait and see, you might be shocked.
Redblossom has already covered your first question. Thanks Red.
As to your second, are you saying the McCanns didn't want to settle ?
As to being shocked, nothing about this case would shock me anymore.
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Care to show proof ot these 2/3 cases?
Who said the McCann's want to settle?.
You obviously know nothing about the case, but wait and see, you might be shocked.
So could you.
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Perhaps because he (Amaral) is a disgrace to his country and an embarrassment to the PJ.....
Got any proof of that? Or are you just wildly speculating, and wishful thinking, tut tut
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They better change lawyer if they hope to win against Mr Amaral. Isabel Duarte discredited herself with a passionate and unjustified vociferation towards the public, mainly journalists who were very silent and attentive. She almost knelled screaming, it was shocking. She isn't an appropriate lawyer but a woman who has personal revenge to resolve. Keeping her they have no chance to win, even a symbolical euro.
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They better change lawyer if they hope to win against Mr Amaral. Isabel Duarte discredited herself with a passionate and unjustified vociferation towards the public, mainly journalists who were very silent and attentive. She almost knelled screaming, it was shocking. She isn't an appropriate lawyer but a woman who has personal revenge to resolve. Keeping her they have no chance to win, even a symbolical euro.
Apart from that she made two huge mistakes
1) She tried to withhold evidence from the court saying the court should not be allowed access to the PJs DVD on the files, dumb at best,her request was denied
2) She stated that there is evidence Madeleine was alive because *there had been many sightings*, dumb comment too
and 3) initially tried to have the case held in camera, so sneeky to boot, and overruled there as well and that was also after the legal action being kept secret from Mr Amaral
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This woman has proved to be really no good. I wonder how CR could support her and I sincerely advise the McCanns to find someone else, not in order to win (which I don't mind) but for the interest of the judgement.
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This woman has proved to be really no good. I wonder how CR could support her and I sincerely advise the McCanns to find someone else, not in order to win (which I don't mind) but for the interest of the judgement.
no, I hope they keep her, if theywere happy to go along with her underhand dishonest ways they deserve no better, after all their aim was to destroy mr amaral whichever way they could, they need to pay for that with a loss in their so called libel case, so lets see, catch u later
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no, I hope they keep her, if theywere happy to go along with her underhand dishonest ways they deserve no better, after all their aim was to destroy mr amaral whichever way they could, they need to pay for that with a loss in their so called libel case, so lets see, catch u later
Somehow naughty of you, Redblossom ! Civil society has at least to get some intellectual satisfaction !
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Somehow naughty of you, Redblossom ! Civil society has at least to get some intellectual satisfaction !
Duarte was not into intellectual satisfaction though, fighting the good fight in court, more like like the bloody mafia
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Duarte was not into intellectual satisfaction though, fighting the good fight in court, more like like the bloody mafia
Isabel is exactly what a lawyer shouldn't be. She might have fascinated people with her pale green eyes, as a cobra does, but she's hopeless, and though I've no special sympathy for the McCanns, I really pity them to have been induced to choose the Duarte lawyer.
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Isabel is exactly what a lawyer shouldn't be. She might have fascinated people with her pale green eyes, as a cobra does, but she's hopeless, and though I've no special sympathy for the McCanns, I really pity them to have been induced to choose the Duarte lawyer.
A cobra with no sting, yes, useless lol, feel sorry for her as she seemed a nice person in normal real life, shame she got mixed up with that total revengeful nazi like crap destined to fail, like who in this day and age goes to any court to BAN BOOKS, scary
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who in this day and age goes to any court to BAN BOOKS, scary
Banning books is terribly scary, yes. Fahrenheit 451. No bad dreams please, Redblossom !
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and 3) initially tried to have the case held in camera, so sneeky to boot,
Poor abused Leonor Cipriano. Jailed for about 16 years on NO evidence ... and as she is about to come out they try her again on some fudged up charge.
had the case held in camera, so extremely sneeky to boot,
It was at Faro Court where so many of these unjust cases happen.
Fascism in the raw.
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Lost when the appeal by Mr Amaral on the book ban was upheld
Lost after that with the supreme court, theysaid there could be no comeback by her
No further appeals made by her to any higher authority on the case
In other words, lost overall so far, and not only against Mr Amaral but lost against the publishers and the tv station
As you say not a great foundation to win her alledgedly upcoming case
I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but isnt it a fact that the McCanns lawyer was not present when the Book Ban was overturned, as they had not been notified that the case was being heard?
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I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but isnt it a fact that the McCanns lawyer was not present when the Book Ban was overturned, as they had not been notified that the case was being heard?
Lawyers don't have to be present when a higher court (second instance) reviews a decision taken by a lower court (first instance), following an appeal made by one part. In this case the higher court overturned the conclusions of the lower court and lawyers were informed afterwards in order to be able to make an appeal to the supreme court (third instance). Isabel Duarte did and duly argued against the higher court's ban overturn. The supreme court confirmed the decision of the higher court.
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A cobra with no sting, yes, useless lol, feel sorry for her as she seemed a nice person in normal real life, shame she got mixed up with that total revengeful nazi like crap destined to fail, like who in this day and age goes to any court to BAN BOOKS, scary
Not wishing to nitpick, but cobras do not sting, they bite. Scorpions, however, sting.
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Poor abused Leonor Cipriano. Jailed for about 16 years on NO evidence ... and as she is about to come out they try her again on some fudged up charge.
had the case held in camera, so extremely sneeky to boot,
It was at Faro Court where so many of these unjust cases happen.
Fascism in the raw.
Pathetic.
She is a murderer, why don't you show sympathy for her daughter ?
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Pathetic.
She is a murderer, why don't you show sympathy for her daughter ?
only suposed evidence was brutally tortured out of her, Joao and Leandro.
To any civilised person, that IS NOT EVIDENCE
NO EVIDENCE Stephen. NONE at all.
THe one Judge protested refusing to put his name to the finding.
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only suposed evidence was brutally tortured out of her, Joao and Leandro.
To any civilised person, that IS NOT EVIDENCE
NO EVIDENCE Stephen. NONE at all.
THe one Judge protested refusing to put his name to the finding.
Prove they were tortured.
What about her missing daughter ?
and quite frankly would you have had any interest in this case at all but for the Mccanns ?
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Prove they were tortured.
What about her missing daughter ?
and quite frankly would you have had any interest in this case at all but for the Mccanns ?
Of course not Stephen. If Amaral wasn't involved the PJ could have beaten Cipriano black, blue or dayglo orange and the supporters wouldn't have batted and eyelid.
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Prove they were tortured.
What about her missing daughter ?
and quite frankly would you have had any interest in this case at all but for the Mccanns ?
I don't usually get involved in the Cipriano discussions ( it upsets me a bit )
It is so sad that a poor, unfortunate little girl, who lead a miserable life that was brutally cut short by those who were meant to care for her, is used as some sort of pawn in the McCann propaganda war
Even in death this poor child is exploited 8(8-))
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I don't usually get involved in the Cipriano discussions ( it upsets me a bit )
It is so sad that a poor, unfortunate little girl, who lead a miserable life that was brutally cut short by those who were meant to care for her, is used as some sort of pawn in the McCann propaganda war
Even in death this poor child is exploited 8(8-))
If it wasn't for Amaral - I for one wouldn't know Leonor Cipriano existed. However the fact that Amaral was made an Arguido on the 4th May was obviously not going to be ignored by people following the McCann Case. Of course people were going to enquire into why he was made an Arguido.
And having looked into the Cipriano case - I'm sure many like myself were appalled to find that this lady had been convicted on a confession which it transpired had been tortured out of her. Even more alarming to discover that the Lead Investigator of the McCann case was involved - and that's why he was an Arguido - and for which he received a criminal conviction.
How anyone can expect all that not to be commented on is beyond me. The very fact that he was allowed to be in charge of the McCann case in the first place is outrageous. As is the fact that Leonora Cipriano is still in prison.
IMO.
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If it wasn't for Amaral - I for one wouldn't know Leonor Cipriano existed. However the fact that Amaral was made an Arguido on the 4th May was obviously not going to be ignored by people following the McCann Case. Of course people were going to enquire into why he was made an Arguido.
And having looked into the Cipriano case - I'm sure many like myself were appalled to find that this lady had been convicted on a confession which it transpired had been tortured out of her. Even more alarming to discover that the Lead Investigator of the McCann case was involved - and that's why he was an Arguido - and for which he received a criminal conviction.
How anyone can expect all that not to be commented on is beyond me. The very fact that he was allowed to be in charge of the McCann case in the first place is outrageous. As is the fact that Leonora Cipriano is still in prison.
IMO.
And what if, despite the appalling methods used by the police ) the verdict was, ulitimately correct ?
What if, that woman and her brother ( who had already been in prison for attempted murder and blinding a man ) really DID abuse and murder a child ?
Being concerned that the verdict reached was 'unsafe' is one thing, but insisting that this woman and her brother should be 'championed' as innocent victims is outrageous
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And what if, despite the appalling methods used by the police ) the verdict was, ulitimately correct ?
What if, that woman and her brother ( who had already been in prison for attempted murder and blinding a man ) really DID abuse and murder a child ?
Being concerned that the verdict reached was 'unsafe' is one thing, but insisting that this woman and her brother should be 'championed' as innocent victims is outrageous
Good grief Icab - if we condone the use of torture by the police as being perfectly acceptable - for any reason - at any time, then we might as well all go back into the jungle and let the lynchmobs rule.
How can you trust the word of any policeman involved in the McCann case who has been proved to be corrupt in previous cases? IMO you cannot.
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Well said Icab. Lets not forget they both changed their stories more times than they had hot dinners. Awful pair. And no, it was never proved the police beat her to get a confession. She made that in the presence of her original lawyer on a date BEFORE the alledged police beating took place. Been through all this before. And no she was NOT convicted on her confession. Confessions are not allowed in courts as evidence.
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When Leonor was tortured there was no lawyer at the place. Fact confirmed by the Courts.
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When Leonor was tortured there was no lawyer at the place. Fact confirmed by the Courts.
When she made her confession there was. Which begs the question why any torture seeing as a confession was already made in the presence of her lawyer.
You could have a word with her INMATES too see how they took the news
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Eta actually, go read the original thread, its all in there, chow
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Good grief Icab - if we condone the use of torture by the police as being perfectly acceptable - for any reason - at any time, then we might as well all go back into the jungle and let the lynchmobs rule.
How can you trust the word of any policeman involved in the McCann case who has been proved to be corrupt in previous cases? IMO you cannot.
There it is again, you see, using a child's sad life and brutal end in order to facilitate a defense of the McCanns
It is just this type of exploitation of little Joana that saddens me
Her mother and uncle , were convicted of brutalising and murdering her ... and despite the indefensible and appalling methods used by the police, they MAY, in truth, be guilty of the horrific acts they were accused of
Let's just be clear about that
In order to support the McCanns you may be defending a man and woman who's wickedness and cruelty knew no bounds
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When she made her confession there was. Which begs the question why any torture seeing as a confession was already made in the presence of her lawyer.
You could have a word with her INMATES too see how they took the news
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Eta actually, go read the original thread, its all in there, chow
No there wasn't. Go read the court report for 2004.
Oh and by the way, the inmates were very supportive of Leonor.
I remember some numpty saying, a prison guard said the Odemira prison director Ana Maria Calado, got them to lie, about how she got her injuries.
Funny that guard was later done for lying in court.
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No there wasn't. Go read the court report for 2004.
Oh and by the way, the inmates were very supportive of Leonor.
I remember some numpty saying, a prison guard said the Odemira prison director Ana Maria Calado, got them to lie, about how she got her injuries.
Funny that guard was later done for lying in court.
you will of course give a cite to it in due time hopefully, and preferably in ENGLISH, instead of expecting any readers to just KNOW where it is
As for her inmates being sympathetic to her after she confessed to being involved in the killing of her child, words fail,they really do, nothing left to be said here, Im done
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There it is again, you see, using a child's sad life and brutal end in order to facilitate a defense of the McCanns
It is just this type of exploitation of little Joana that saddens me
Her mother and uncle , were convicted of brutalising and murdering her ... and despite the indefensible and appalling methods used by the police, they MAY, in truth, be guilty of the horrific acts they were accused of
Let's just be clear about that
In order to support the McCanns you may be defending a man and woman who's wickedness and cruelty knew no bounds
Nonsense, as far as I'm concerned there's no clear evidence that Leonor's daughter is dead. IIRC the incest related motive presented by the PJ was rejected by the court.
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you will of course give a cite to it in due time hopefully, and preferably in ENGLISH, instead of expecting any readers to just KNOW where it is
As for her inmates being sympathetic to her after she confessed to being involved in the killing of her child, words fail,they really do, nothing left to be said here, Im done
Joana Case: Prison guard made arguido Jornal de Notícias
By Marisa Rodrigues
20 February 2009 - 00h30m
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
The prison guard, who said that the prison director of Odemira had suggested a change to the report on the alleged aggressions made to Leonor Cipriano, has been constituted an arguido in the disciplinary process.
Initiated by the General Directorate of the Prison Services, this process originated in the statements given by António Maia during the trial of the five Polícia Judiciária (PJ) Inspectors, which today returns to the Court of Faro.
Currently working in Silves, the former former sub-chief of the Odemira prison guards was heard as a witness in October last year. As he was questioned by the lawyer of the arguido Gonçalo Amaral, he said that the mother of Joana explained that the abrasions she had on her face were the result of "fall on the stairs" inside the premises of the PJ in Faro as a consequence of "dizziness" after a day of questioning, in 2004. "Do you believe this is correct? Do you think she fell down the stairs? Wasn't it torture?", asked Ana Maria Calado, director of the establishment, while reading the report. Before the court of jury, António Maia stated he did not alter the document.
JN knows that Ana Maria Calado has been an object of an inquest process, which was eventually shelved.
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Let's just be clear about that
In order to support the McCanns you may be defending a man and woman who's wickedness and cruelty knew no bounds
More spin and make believe Icabod.
No proof of any sort that
1) Joana is dead
2) Leonor, or Joao, even touched her
I think she is still alive
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More spin and make believe Icabod.
No proof of any sort that
1) Joana is dead
2) Leonor, or Joao, even touched her
I think she is still alive
The bottom line on this case, is that you and others wouldn't get involved in this case if it wasn't for this case.
As far as you and your mates are concerned, it is another stick to beat Amaral with.
Metaphorically of course.
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The bottom line on this case, is that you and others wouldn't get involved in this case if it wasn't for this case.
As far as you and your mates are concerned, it is another stick to beat Amaral with.
Metaphorically of course.
Joana Cipriano, a pretty happy fair haired girl, was abducted from Figuwiras less than 3 years before Madeleine was abducted. Only 7 miles away crow flies from PdL
Carolina Santos, a pretty little blond girl, was abducted from Silves, less than 5 months before Madeleine. Only about 25 miles from PdL crow flies. [This abduction thankfully failed early on, but the PJ (Amaral?) decided not to investigate it
If you, Stephen, cannot see the likely links between these cases and Madeleines abduction, then I query that you have any understanding at all.
Less than 3 years, 7miles
Less than 5 months, approx 25 miles
Including Madeleine, THREE pretty, happy, little fair haired girls.... all gone in a 25 mile area in well under 3 years apartt
GET IT Stephen?
Sorry to shout but you seem a bit deaf, at times
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Joana Cipriano, a pretty happy fair haired girl, was abducted from Figuwiras less than 3 years before Madeleine was abducted. Only 7 miles away crow flies from PdL
Carolina Santos, a pretty little blond girl, was abducted from Silves, less than 5 months before Madeleine. Only about 25 miles from PdL crow flies. [This abduction thankfully failed early on, but the PJ (Amaral?) decided not to investigate it
If you, Stephen, cannot see the likely links between these cases and Madeleines abduction, then I query that you have any understanding at all.
Less than 3 years, 7miles
Less than 5 months, approx 25 miles
Including Madeleine, THREE pretty, happy, little fair haired girls.... all gone in a 25 mile area in well under 3 years apartt
GET IT Stephen?
Sorry to shout but you seem a bit deaf, at times
Merely because you want a link to exist doesn't mean it does.
I have seen examples of your so called 'detective/investigative' work and it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
As to that poor girl Joana, she died as a result of her mother's and uncle's actions.
As to the rest of it, your imagination has run wild.
As to the abduction, WITHOUT ANY PROOF, never believed in it.
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you will of course give a cite to it in due time hopefully, and preferably in ENGLISH, instead of expecting any readers to just KNOW where it is
As for her inmates being sympathetic to her after she confessed to being involved in the killing of her child, words fail,they really do, nothing left to be said here, Im done
BUMPED TO ADD PRISON DIRECTORS COMMENTS, RE INMATES!
Joana Case: Prison guard made arguido Jornal de Notícias
By Marisa Rodrigues
20 February 2009 - 00h30m
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
The prison guard, who said that the prison director of Odemira had suggested a change to the report on the alleged aggressions made to Leonor Cipriano, has been constituted an arguido in the disciplinary process.
Initiated by the General Directorate of the Prison Services, this process originated in the statements given by António Maia during the trial of the five Polícia Judiciária (PJ) Inspectors, which today returns to the Court of Faro.
Currently working in Silves, the former former sub-chief of the Odemira prison guards was heard as a witness in October last year. As he was questioned by the lawyer of the arguido Gonçalo Amaral, he said that the mother of Joana explained that the abrasions she had on her face were the result of "fall on the stairs" inside the premises of the PJ in Faro as a consequence of "dizziness" after a day of questioning, in 2004. "Do you believe this is correct? Do you think she fell down the stairs? Wasn't it torture?", asked Ana Maria Calado, director of the establishment, while reading the report. Before the court of jury, António Maia stated he did not alter the document.
JN knows that Ana Maria Calado has been an object of an inquest process, which was eventually shelved.
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PRISON DIRECTORS COMMENTS, RE INMATES
They got Leonor Cipriano at 6 o'clock in the morning, and then returned for her in the middle of the night. There was no formal request for this form of interrogation from the Director of the Policia Judiciara
It was even stranger that, when enquiries began with an internal investigation into the interrogation and torture of Leonor Cipriano by the PJ, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon held a private meeting with her in prison. Their mission was to try to negotiate a sharing of blame between the PJ and the Odemira Prison in relation to the attacks on, and torture of, Leonor.
As a person of integrity, Dr. Ana Calado obviously refused to come to any compromise regarding something for which the establishment for which she was responsible at the time - Odemira prison - had no responsibility for whatsoever.
The Chief Prison Medical Officer said that Leonor Cipriano's health had got even worse a week after she had been tortured. The blood had accumulated around the eyebrows and became highly inflamed and swollen, making her nearly blind for nearly a month.
My only regret today, said Dr Ana Calado, was that at the time I did not order more photographs to be taken to illustrate Leonor's poor state of health on admission and immediately afterwards.
Dr Ana Maria's statement added: "I must say that in terms of her attitude and behaviour, Leonor Cipriano is one of the best prisoners that I have had for many years. She has not tried to commit suicide although she had many opportunities to do so after the fateful interrogation. Leonor has always had an excellent relationship with all the prison guards and the other prisoners, which has gone from strength to strength."
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BUMPED TO ADD PRISON DIRECTORS COMMENTS, RE INMATES!
Joana Case: Prison guard made arguido Jornal de Notícias
By Marisa Rodrigues
20 February 2009 - 00h30m
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
The prison guard, who said that the prison director of Odemira had suggested a change to the report on the alleged aggressions made to Leonor Cipriano, has been constituted an arguido in the disciplinary process.
Initiated by the General Directorate of the Prison Services, this process originated in the statements given by António Maia during the trial of the five Polícia Judiciária (PJ) Inspectors, which today returns to the Court of Faro.
Currently working in Silves, the former former sub-chief of the Odemira prison guards was heard as a witness in October last year. As he was questioned by the lawyer of the arguido Gonçalo Amaral, he said that the mother of Joana explained that the abrasions she had on her face were the result of "fall on the stairs" inside the premises of the PJ in Faro as a consequence of "dizziness" after a day of questioning, in 2004. "Do you believe this is correct? Do you think she fell down the stairs? Wasn't it torture?", asked Ana Maria Calado, director of the establishment, while reading the report. Before the court of jury, António Maia stated he did not alter the document.
JN knows that Ana Maria Calado has been an object of an inquest process, which was eventually shelved.
PRISON DIRECTORS COMMENTS, RE INMATES
My only regret today, said Dr Ana Calado, was that at the time I did not order more photographs to be taken to illustrate Leonor's poor state of health on admission and immediately afterwards.
Dr Ana Maria's statement added: "I must say that in terms of her attitude and behaviour, Leonor Cipriano is one of the best prisoners that I have had for many years. She has not tried to commit suicide although she had many opportunities to do so after the fateful interrogation. Leonor has always had an excellent relationship with all the prison guards and the other prisoners, which has gone from strength to strength."
So a model prisoner then ?
So on that logic, and it's clear where this is leading, a 'model prisoner' is a really good egg and has done nothing wrong.
Give me a break on that one.
Likewise any inmate who is a 'model prisoner' and was convicted of murder is innocent too ?
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It was even stranger that, when enquiries began with an internal investigation into the interrogation and torture of Leonor Cipriano by the PJ, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon held a private meeting with her in prison. Their mission was to try to negotiate a sharing of blame between the PJ and the Odemira Prison in relation to the attacks on, and torture of, Leonor.
So these two inspectors from Lisbon, just went to the prison for tea @)(++(*
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It was even stranger that, when enquiries began with an internal investigation into the interrogation and torture of Leonor Cipriano by the PJ, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon held a private meeting with her in prison. Their mission was to try to negotiate a sharing of blame between the PJ and the Odemira Prison in relation to the attacks on, and torture of, Leonor.
So these two inspectors from Lisbon, just went to the prison for tea @)(++(*
Can you prove this 'negotiation' took place ?
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More spin and make believe Icabod.
No proof of any sort that
1) Joana is dead
2) Leonor, or Joao, even touched her
I think she is still alive
I've no idea whether she is still alive or not, but I'd agree on your two points, namely:
No proof of any sort that
1) Joana is dead
2) Leonor, or Joao, even touched her
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I've no idea whether she is still alive or not, but I'd agree on your two points, namely:
No proof of any sort that
1) Joana is dead
2) Leonor, or Joao, even touched her
The murder conviction stands whether some like it or not.
You do not need a body for a conviction.
Joana's mother is a convicted murderer and liar.
As in the case of Madeleine, there has not been one sign or lead showing Joana is alive.
Now ifany of the die hard mccannites want to search and I mean SEARCH for either of these two children, get out there and do it.
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The murder conviction stands whether some like it or not.
You do not need a body for a conviction.
Joana's mother is a convicted murderer and liar.
As in the case of Madeleine, there has not been one sign or lead showing Joana is alive.
Now ifany of the die hard mccannites want to search and I mean SEARCH for either of these two children, get out there and do it.
And Portugal imprisons someone on tortured out "evidence" ? .... NO EVIDENCE
Yeah, Right.
That's aright, isn't it Stephen?
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The murder conviction stands whether some like it or not.
Sadly so.
Unbelievable that any judiciary should regard a "confession" extracted under torture as safe.
But there we are.
It does!
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The murder conviction stands whether some like it or not.
Sadly so.
Unbelievable that any judiciary should regard a "confession" extracted under torture as safe.
But there we are.
It does!
Can you prove torture ?
How about our lovely allies in the good old USA torturing people in Guantanamo Bay ?
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Can you prove torture ?
How about our lovely allies in the good old USA torturing people in Guantanamo Bay ?
The Portuguese courts proved torture.
And yes, far too much of Portuguese procedure and protocol mirrors American practice ...
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The Portuguese courts proved torture.
And yes, far too much of Portuguese procedure and protocol mirrors American practice ...
Who exactly was proved to carry out torture ?
Can you provide a clear unbiased link.
As to the Americans, they never practice what they preach.
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Extract from AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL = ANNUAL REPORT 2012 - PORTUGAL
Torture and other ill-treatment
In February, a video showing prison guards using a dart-firing stun gun against an inmate in Paços de Ferreira prison in September 2010, allegedly to force him to clean his cell, was broadcast on the internet. The man appeared to offer no resistance. In April, the Minister of Justice issued a decree forbidding the use of stun guns in similar circumstances. An inquiry by the Audit and Inspection services of the General Directorate for prisons was pending at the end of the year.
In March, the Court of Appeal of Evora confirmed an earlier ruling that Leonor Cipriano had been tortured while in police custody in 2004, but that it could not identify those responsible. Leonor Cipriano had yet to receive compensation from the state. Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral and António Fernandes Nuno Cardoso, senior officials in the judicial police, had been sentenced to 18 months’ and 27 months’ imprisonment respectively, for falsely claiming Leonor Cipriano had fallen down the stairs. However, both sentences were suspended on the grounds that the officers had no previous criminal convictions.
Hearings in the trial of three police officers, accused of torturing Virgolino Borges while in police custody in March 2000, took place in November and December. Virgolino Borges was asked to give his testimony again as the recording had allegedly been lost due to technical problems.
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Extract from AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL = ANNUAL REPORT 2012 - PORTUGAL
Torture and other ill-treatment
In February, a video showing prison guards using a dart-firing stun gun against an inmate in Paços de Ferreira prison in September 2010, allegedly to force him to clean his cell, was broadcast on the internet. The man appeared to offer no resistance. In April, the Minister of Justice issued a decree forbidding the use of stun guns in similar circumstances. An inquiry by the Audit and Inspection services of the General Directorate for prisons was pending at the end of the year.
In March, the Court of Appeal of Evora confirmed an earlier ruling that Leonor Cipriano had been tortured while in police custody in 2004, but that it could not identify those responsible. Leonor Cipriano had yet to receive compensation from the state. Gonçalo de Sousa Amaral and António Fernandes Nuno Cardoso, senior officials in the judicial police, had been sentenced to 18 months’ and 27 months’ imprisonment respectively, for falsely claiming Leonor Cipriano had fallen down the stairs. However, both sentences were suspended on the grounds that the officers had no previous criminal convictions.
Hearings in the trial of three police officers, accused of torturing Virgolino Borges while in police custody in March 2000, took place in November and December. Virgolino Borges was asked to give his testimony again as the recording had allegedly been lost due to technical problems.
If Leonor hadn't been tortured Benice, they wouldn't have needed to send, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon to try and cover it up.
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If Leonor hadn't been tortured Benice, they wouldn't have needed to send, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon to try and cover it up.
Precisely. And no doubt there was a time when that tactic would have worked. It's good to know that some Portguese people in positions of authority have integrity. Those 2 inspectors should have been prosecuted and sacked for trying to pervert the course of justice.
I can't believe there appears to have been no official investigation into what happened at that police station on the day Leonor Cipriano was tortured. They must have known who was present in the station at that time and who was handling that case.
If there was any sort of investigation I've never heard of it.
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Precisely. And no doubt there was a time when that tactic would have worked. It's good to know that some Portguese people in positions of authority have integrity. Those 2 inspectors should have been prosecuted and sacked for trying to pervert the course of justice.
I can't believe there appears to have been no official investigation into what happened at that police station on the day Leonor Cipriano was tortured. They must have known who was present in the station at that time and who was handling that case.
If there was any sort of investigation I've never heard of it.
There was an "cough" internal investigation. It is in my post above. Today at 01:52:50 PM
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Can you prove torture ?
The courts accepted it.
Why cant you?
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There was an "cough" internal investigation. It is in my post above. Today at 01:52:50 PM
Ahh - I thought that referred to the Prison Governor's investigation. I was wondering about an investigation by the PJ Officer in charge of the police station where the torture took place.
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There was an "cough" internal investigation. It is in my post above. Today at 01:52:50 PM
It was even stranger that, when enquiries began with an internal investigation into the interrogation and torture of Leonor Cipriano by the PJ, a team of two inspectors from Lisbon held a private meeting with her in prison. Their mission was to try to negotiate a sharing of blame between the PJ and the Odemira Prison in relation to the attacks on, and torture of, Leonor.
This what you mean DCI? Calling it "an internal investigation into the interrogation and torture of Leonor Cipriano by the PJ" ... but really trying to cover their own backs?
Am I right that largely the torturers are attached to the DCCB in Lisbon ... and the officers sent to interrogate Leonor are also from Lisbon.
That they are trying to get Leonor and Dr Ana to agree that the horrendous damage done to Leonor, partially happened in Odemira jail and the rest happened in PJ custody (the supposed "fall down stairs")
Good at stories, Amaral, aint he ? Was it one of his?
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Ahh - I thought that referred to the Prison Governor's investigation. I was wondering about an investigation by the PJ Officer in charge of the police station where the torture took place.
It was at Faro, wasn't it? This man was in charge of the entire Faro district.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/02/pj-director-of-faro-guilhermino-da.html
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lWXrpwC28yU/S4Vt1laoKdI/AAAAAAAAHZY/7iEPPV_E7oo/s400/guilherminoencarnacao.jpg)
Guilhermino da Encarnação was responsible for cases like the Joana Cipriano case and Madeleine McCann
According to Joana Morais he died from cancer 24th february 2010 in a lsboa hospital
So looks like he is off the hooK !
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The courts accepted it.
Why cant you?
The courts also accepted that little Joanna was beaten and murdered by her cruel mother and beastly uncle
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I might be wrong in this and I am sure I will be corrected if I am but it is my understanding that it was the brother who was alleged to have killed Joana with Leonor being involved in the cover up.
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The murder conviction stands whether some like it or not.
Sadly so.
Unbelievable that any judiciary should regard a "confession" extracted under torture as safe.
But there we are.
It does!
Nor the conditions which led to the so-called "reconstruction" with the brother...
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I might be wrong in this and I am sure I will be corrected if I am but it is my understanding that it was the brother who was alleged to have killed Joana with Leonor being involved in the cover up.
Then we come down to the key point. The Cipriano case has NOTHING to do with Madeleine's disappearance.
and according to sources she admitted to killing her daughter.
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There is a claim being promoted on twitter that Joana's blood was found on the wall by the front door. Am I right in saying that DNA analysis failed to confirm this? >@@(*&)
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There is a claim being promoted on twitter that Joana's blood was found on the wall by the front door. Am I right in saying that DNA analysis failed to confirm this? >@@(*&)
So what has the Cipriano case got to do with Madeleine's disappearance ?
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The two cases may not be directly related but they have several characters in common who have sought for their own reasons to draw parallels which may or may not exist.
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There is a claim being promoted on twitter that Joana's blood was found on the wall by the front door. Am I right in saying that DNA analysis failed to confirm this? >@@(*&)
Not as far as I'm aware, but then I have never found the forensics report online. Perhaps someone who has access to it could post it?
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The two cases may not be directly related but they have several characters in common who have sought for their own reasons to draw parallels which may or may not exist.
The connection is the incompetent, lying, corrupt, drunk Ex PJ Amaral. Too many similarities, in the "cough" evidence, in both cases. He couldn't make his mind up which version to use in Joana's case, either.
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The connection is the incompetent, lying, corrupt, drunk Ex PJ Amaral. Too many similarities, in the "cough" evidence, in both cases. He couldn't make his mind up which version to use in Joana's case, either.
Utter rubbish.
The only 'connection' you want to make is Amaral.
For the umpteenth time, it wasn't only him who thought Madeleine's parents were involved in her disappearance.
Meanwhile, it is still listed by the CFO, 'as type of crime unknown'.
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Oh Dear me,
Another of Amaral's corrupt, best buddies.
Paulo Pereira Cristovao goes to trial
court dismissed the complaint upheld
Paulo Pereira Cristovao will be judged for seven crimes, under the so called "Cardinal case" confirmed this Monday the lawyer of the former vice president of Sporting.
"It will be a trial, due to the facts contained in the indictment," Rogério Alves told to te reporters after the process instructory process decision of Paulo Pereira Cristovao, former vice president of Sporting, during the administration of Godinho Lopes
Paulo Pereira Cristovao is accused of a crime of aggravated fraud, other about money laundering, two of embezzlement, another one of defamation through computer, another of an illegitimate access and, finally, one of aggravated slanderous denunciation.
This case was initiated by sending an anonymous letter denouncing an alleged bribe to the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal, named for a game between Sporting and Maritime, in April 2012, this letter which the president of the Portuguese Football Federation, Fernando Gomes , sent to PJ, after same having been delivered by the President of the "lions", Godinho Lopes.
Following the investigation of the PJ, were made arguidos, beyond Paulo Pereira Cristovao, also a former official of cristóvão, Rui Martins, suspected of have done, in Funchal, the deposit of two thousand euros in the bank account of the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal, and secretary of the of cristóvão, Liliana Caldeira, which allegedly bought the plane ticket for cristóvão that travel to Madeira.
However, the accusation of MP focuses only on two arguidos, which means that one of them, Rui Martins Liliana Caldeira ceased to be, or even both.
Moreover, these police investigations led to charges brought now by the MP the practice of other crimes by cristóvão and a managing partner in a commercial society not identified, during an early stage of the investigation was concerned, apparently only the crime of slanderous denunciation qualified, due to the deposit of two thousand euros in the bank account of the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal.
http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Nacional/1a_liga/Sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=833323
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Oh Dear me,
Another of Amaral's corrupt, best buddies.
Paulo Pereira Cristovao goes to trial
court dismissed the complaint upheld
Paulo Pereira Cristovao will be judged for seven crimes, under the so called "Cardinal case" confirmed this Monday the lawyer of the former vice president of Sporting.
"It will be a trial, due to the facts contained in the indictment," Rogério Alves told to te reporters after the process instructory process decision of Paulo Pereira Cristovao, former vice president of Sporting, during the administration of Godinho Lopes
Paulo Pereira Cristovao is accused of a crime of aggravated fraud, other about money laundering, two of embezzlement, another one of defamation through computer, another of an illegitimate access and, finally, one of aggravated slanderous denunciation.
This case was initiated by sending an anonymous letter denouncing an alleged bribe to the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal, named for a game between Sporting and Maritime, in April 2012, this letter which the president of the Portuguese Football Federation, Fernando Gomes , sent to PJ, after same having been delivered by the President of the "lions", Godinho Lopes.
Following the investigation of the PJ, were made arguidos, beyond Paulo Pereira Cristovao, also a former official of cristóvão, Rui Martins, suspected of have done, in Funchal, the deposit of two thousand euros in the bank account of the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal, and secretary of the of cristóvão, Liliana Caldeira, which allegedly bought the plane ticket for cristóvão that travel to Madeira.
However, the accusation of MP focuses only on two arguidos, which means that one of them, Rui Martins Liliana Caldeira ceased to be, or even both.
Moreover, these police investigations led to charges brought now by the MP the practice of other crimes by cristóvão and a managing partner in a commercial society not identified, during an early stage of the investigation was concerned, apparently only the crime of slanderous denunciation qualified, due to the deposit of two thousand euros in the bank account of the assistant referee Joseph Cardinal.
http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Nacional/1a_liga/Sporting/interior.aspx?content_id=833323
What on earth has this got to do with Madeleine's disappearance from the apartment.
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What on earth has this got to do with Madeleine's disappearance from the apartment. This isn't the aprtment thread, do keep up!
You don't know much, do you?
Gonçalo Amaral and Paulo Pereira Cristóvão accused of attacks on Leonor Cipriano!
He poked his beak in enough
Cristoavo started the Portuguese Association for Missing Children, the head of Portugal's new foundation for missing children. Odd he only lasted about 8 months.
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Utter rubbish.
The only 'connection' you want to make is Amaral.
For the umpteenth time, it wasn't only him who thought Madeleine's parents were involved in her disappearance.
Meanwhile, it is still listed by the CFO, 'as type of crime unknown'.
But it was Amaral who has cashed in with a book and peddled his libel round the daytime-telly sofas of Portugal...
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Cristavao concocted the story about Kate and the six corpses in his book, "The Star of Madelene." It was pure fantasy.
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Cristavao concocted the story about Kate and the six corpses in his book, "The Star of Madelene." It was pure fantasy.
He also wrote "The Star of Joana" Did he not, Eleanor?
Wasn't he always at court with Amaral too? His minder @)(++(*
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He also wrote "The Star of Joana" Did he not, Eleanor?
Wasn't he always at court with Amaral too? His minder @)(++(*
Yes and Yes, DCI. The creep is a thug and a liar.
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The Portuguese justice system must be going through a period of utter turmoil at the present time what with senior detectives and lawyers being dragged through the courts.
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The Portuguese justice system must be going through a period of utter turmoil at the present time what with senior detectives and lawyers being dragged through the courts.
Seems to be particularly the DCCB unit from Lisboa and the Faro / Portimao section of the PJ.
Altho some funny things went on in Porto too. That's a different story
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the mccann supporters support too
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/12/spanish-detectives-asked-me-to-arrange.html
Shockingly bizarre
Why did the Mccanns get involved with so many crooks? metodo 3, halligen and now this medium so called lawyer?
Lawyer who collaborated with investigators at the service of Maddie's Parents to the 'O Crime':
'McCann detectives asked me to get proofs against Gonçalo Amaral'
'Maddie parents foretold their daughter's death'
The lawyer who cooperated with «Método 3» makes surprising revelations
• «Maddie’s parents divined their daughter’s death»
• «Satanic societies and secret services involved in the Maddie Case»
In the book that he is launching this week, Dr Marcos Aragão Correia, the lawyer who defends Leonor in the process in which Joana’s mother accuses five PJ inspectors of having tortured her, reveals how his facet as a medium became important, namely in the discovery of the truth in the Maddie case, allowing «o Crime» to learn about some data, this far kept under secrecy, about the investigations that were carried out by Spanish detective agency Método 3, stressing the highly likely intervention of secret services and satanic sects in the disappearance of the English girl.
Interview by: José Leite
«O Crime» - What do you intend to reveal in this book of yours?
Marcos Aragão – In the book «The Little Girls that Came from the Stars» I mix true facts with romanced ones, approaching new aspects of the private investigation that Maddie’s parents carried out into their daughter’s disappearance. I speak about my powers as a medium and how those powers were useful to develop a private investigation that counted on the support of the Método 3 Detective Agency. I wanted to employ that gift of mine into the discovery of a credible truth about the case of the disappearance of Maddie, stripping myself of any material purposes. The goal was not to earn money – even more so because I fortunately lead an economical life without any financial problems in Madeira – but rather to help those parents who lived in affliction. One of the major teachings of spiritism mentions that it’s only by helping others that we are able to help ourselves. That was what I intended to do: to help this little girl, thus conquering her precious Love.
How did that premonition of yours about the Maddie case happen?
On the 5th of May, upon returning from a spiritist meeting in Madeira, right after going to bed, but before falling asleep, at around midnight, an extraordinary thing happened to me for the first time in my life: I saw the image of a little girl that must have been around 4 years of age, with blond, shoulder-length straight hair, blue eyes, very disturbed, visibly unable to understand what was happening to her, accompanied by a female being of great beauty and great spiritual standing… Then, other images appeared, related to what had happened to her: I saw a strongly built man, blue eyes, somewhat balding and with blondish hair, brutally raping that girl and then strangling her with his hands, throwing the cadaver into a lake. I perceived by a map that was shown to me, that this happened in the Algarve, but I couldn’t read the name of the village. I stress that I hadn’t seen any photo of Maddie before, I only knew, from what I’d heard on the radio, that she was 3 years old.
That individual that you describe, was he ever referred to within the PJ’s investigation?
In fact, there were references about a strongly built individual of British appearance as a suspect. Still, as this was my first vision in my entire life, there was, on my side, a certain reluctance in divulging it. I let a few days pass, even to see whether or not the little girl showed up. Until I gave the lead to the PJ, on the 9th of May, but they never contacted me. Later on, an agent from the PJ in Portimão told me that the investigation’s thesis was not based on abduction anymore. Then, I decided to carry out a private investigation: I went to continental Portugal, and visited the various lakes and dams of the Algarve, until I reached the Arade one which was the only one that precisely matched the scenery that I had seen in my vision. I decided to contact a senior official at Método 3, the detective agency that had been hired by the McCanns to investigate their daughter’s disappearance. When I mentioned that the dam was located in Silves, I noticed that they were surprised and immediately wanted to speak with me.
What happened next?
Two detectives met with me and told me that they had already received thousands of leads, but that mine was corroborated by a physical case that they had already established. It involved a Portuguese truck driver, M. Gautier, who only two days after the disappearance of Madeleine, at around 4 or 5 p.m., while driving down the IC1 road, near the Arade dam, saw two cars parked by the road, an Audi A3 that was driven by a man and a green car (of a very special green) that was driven by a blonde woman. The two vehicles were separated by a small metallic fence, and while driving by in his truck, the driver saw what seemed like an inanimate child to him, being passed from one car to another, wrapped up in a blanket.
But how could he immediately conclude that it was a child?
By the manner in which the body stood out from the blanket, the bent legs and small dimensions made him conclude without hesitation that it was a child. On the other hand, the double caution with which the couple held the blanket on a hot day, became suspicious. It was all extremely strange, and because of that, in November, the truck driver reported everything to the detectives at Método 3, after the Portuguese police simply discarded that mysterious event that he had participated in. According to what he told me himself, the PJ’s elements even ridiculed him as soon as he called them on the day that he witnessed the translation of the body near the metal fence.
And did Método 3 ever investigate that case?
Of course. The Spanish detectives showed M. Gautier the photos of some of the main suspects in the disappearance of Maddie, and found some physiognomic similarities with at least two of them.
I read in the process concerning Maddie’s disappearance, which was archived in the meantime, that the PJ, after picking up on that lead again six months later, discarded it once more, after the analysis of the cellular activation of the antennae of the suspicious couple’s mobile phones, and after questioning the persons that owned a house on that plot…
There, the PJ committed a gross mistake by investigating only that suspect and his girlfriend. The truck driver said that he couldn’t guarantee that it was that precise suspect, but rather that it was a person with similar physiognomic features, mainly in terms of body mass.
The fact is that Método 3 placed their bet on you and Dr Aragão Correia left to do that research in the dam?
Yes, they bet on me, after submitting me to a test in order to prove in an unequivocal manner whether or not my medium abilities and my posture were credible. They were fed up with following false leads. The fact is that the test gave totally positive results, according to what was confirmed to me by the director of the Agency in Barcelona herself, and as a consequence of that, Método 3 offered full support to my research. But given the fact that Maddie’s parents preferred to spend the decreasing money from the Madeleine Fund in mainly following leads that placed the hypothesis that their daughter was still alive, they dismissed the possibility of paying professional divers to scrutinize the dam. Then, I offered myself to pay for the first phase of the searches in the dam, having later received much support (even financial) from mediums and spiritists who believed in and corroborated my theory.
Searches that failed to find anything relevant?
Relevant yes, but not sufficient as evidence. Maybe I did some mistake, which may have alerted the possible abductor(s) of the little English girl: on the 11th of January, before the diving in the dam started, «Lux» magazine published those suspicions of mine on their front page. It was almost two months later that the searches were started at the dam, which was more than enough time for the criminals to hide any incriminating residues. Nevertheless, we discovered a girl’s sock that was Maddie’s age. I believe that the sock might have been used by Maddie, although the lab tests failed to detect any human residues, due to the fact that it stayed underwater for such a long time. We also found several interlaced ropes, over five metres long, which could perfectly have been used to tie up the body at the bottom of the dam. All of this was recovered by the divers in an area where there was no garbage. Método 3 always accompanied the searches closely, and took all of those objects to Spain.
Do you believe that Maddie’s abduction and death were an isolated action?
The information that I received as a medium didn’t allow for me to understand what the crime’s mobile was. But information that I obtained later on – even from consulting an excellent book by criminologist Barra da Costa – led me to believe the theory, that was exposed by that former PJ chief inspector, that the police wasn’t interested in finding neither Maddie nor the real culprits over her disappearance.
They weren’t interested?
Dr Barra da Costa said that there was something like a tacit plan to induce a general sense of insecurity across society, to allow for the micro-chip (a device that after being implanted in human beings delivers signals to track them down) may be produced on a major scale. At the beginning I had some reservations concerning that issue because I had never heard about it, but I was careful enough to go on the internet and to consult several credible websites, including FBI and CIA sources, where I found some amazing things: the micro-chip was being promoted as the ideal weapon to prevent crime. They added that the population should be induced into accepting this technological revolution, even if at the cost of promoting insecurity policies. Well, the Maddie case fell like “soup in the honey” for the promotion of those insecurity policies, especially as far as children are concerned.
And why Maddie?
Concerning that issue, I obtained precious information with Método 3 (which I reveal in my book) concerning the status of the missing girl’s parents, who had very influent connections with the British government. Apart from that, one day before his daughter disappeared, Gerry received enigmatic coded messages on his mobile phone, which he failed to decipher. Was it a warning from someone connected to the British secret services, trying to warn him about the imminent abduction of his daughter? The fact is that the little girl fell victim to a perfect abduction, carried out by professionals, who studied all of the McCann couple’s steps and left no trace. The PJ’s investigation process even refers the existence of an individual who watched the apartment in a suspicious manner, during the days that preceded the abduction.
But at what level did the parents relate to the British government: with the secret service?
My book also discusses that. There was privileged knowledge by the American secret services, through the English, about those parents’ entire life. And although Gordon Brown is a person of integrity, I cannot say the same about George W. Bush, who is doubtlessly one of the major international terrorists. From here to the perverse secret societies, it’s a small step…
But what were those secret societies?
Everyone knows that president Bush was connected to a secret society, «Skull and Bones», whose elements have the fetish of lying in coffins and participating in satanic rituals. That society recruits for the major totally Machiavellian secret societies that seek to control the earth. Due to their strength at a global level, it would be natural for those societies to know about that privileged relationship between Maddie’s parents and the British government. And that in the case that one of the couple’s children was abducted, they could be certain that Gordon Brown’s government would act and that the case would become immensely media-exposed.
On the other hand, those satanic sects would know beforehand that the crime would never be discovered in Portugal, as it happened, due to the ineptitude that our police present in finding abducted children. And they also knew that the person who is responsible for that investigation in the Portimão department had already proved his incompetence in the Joana case. All of that would reinforce the politics of implementation of the insecurity theories – another abducted child, nobody knows who did it, etc…, benefiting the interests of the industries that will launch said micro-chips. I was shocked when I saw reports that stated that if the technology had been implemented already, Maddie would easily be found. They revealed a lowly attitude by using the little girl’s memory…
How did you appear in the defense of Joana’s mother?
Método 3 asked me to juridically investigate (to arrange for evidence and witnesses) the tortures by Mr Gonçalo Amaral, namely over Joana’s mother. According to them, this was a coordinator who had revealed an embarrassing ineptitude in the investigation of child abductions in the Algarve, systematically incriminating, without no evidence whatsoever, the missing girls’ mothers. I spoke to ACED and asked them if they were interested in me writing independent reports about Leonor and her brother, João Cipriano.
Did you reach any conclusion through those interviews with Leonor and João Cipriano?
I was confronted with two different states of mind: Leonor was shocked about what had happened to her daughter; João displayed no remorse. It is curious that the first time that I sat down in front of him, I saw streams of blood running down his face, as if he was guilty over his niece’s death. I was impressed, but I remained silent and told nobody about the fact. But now, after having questioned tens of persons, after Leonor herself told me that he was not to be trusted, that on the evening of the crime (he had arrived at Leonor’s house just one day before), as soon as the child left the house, he went after her, all of this added to the depositions from relatives and from persons who dealt with them in the village of Figueira, I was fully convinced that it was João Cipriano who murdered Joana. In fact, I learned that he had already been convicted over attempted homicide of an individual, having received 100 euros and a motorbike to do that service.
Why didn’t he reveal the location of the cadaver?
He always held on to the hope that if the cadaver wasn’t found, he would be acquitted. He also incriminated Joana’s mother, saying that she had beaten the little girl, and saying that Leonor had written him letters stating that she had sold her daughter, but she never wrote to him, as prison records prove. In that village everyone knows that Leonor had never beaten the little girl and that she had an excellent relationship with her.
Did you find any mediunic contact points between both cases: Joana’s and Maddie’s?
One “transported” me to the other. It’s curious that the parents of both children received mediunic information themselves: according to data that I obtained with Método 3, before coming to Portugal to spend their holidays at the Ocean Club, Maddie’s mother had a horrendous foreboding that something serious would happen. She even spoke to her husband about cancelling the trip to Portugal but Gerry convinced her to come. Only a few days after Maddie disappeared, the father also had a vision of a long tunnel with a light at its end, where Maddie was standing, surrounded by that magnificent light. Joana’s mother also had a vision of her daughter accompanied by an adult couple. She tried to approach her daughter on a thinking level, but the couple told her that it wasn’t possible and very gently led Joana away. The interpretation that I make on the level of parapsychology, a science that I studied for almost ten years, is that Joana is also in the spiritual world already, accompanied by good spirits who protect her. I thank both for the Love that they have given me, offering me these marvellous missions.
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Gonçalo Amaral replies to Aragão Correia:
«All he wants is publicity and clowning»
Concerning the contents of this interview, we contacted former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral, who clarified as follows:
“I don’t believe that Método 3 chased that lawyer up. What he says is a lie. All he wants is publicity and clowning around. If he was at the Arade dam looking for Maddie after having a ‘vision’, why didn’t he dive into the waters?...”
Concerning possible contacts between Método 3 and the PJ investigators, Gonçalo Amaral refers:
“There was a meeting in Elvas and in Portimão between Dr Paulo Rebelo, the Spanish police, the detectives and millionaire Brian Kennedy, who financially supported the McCanns. The testimony by the truck driver was part of that conversation, but later that lead was dismissed.”
source: O Crime, 04.12.2008, paper edition
Thread title changed for the pedants and those who have never read split OP titles and first posts
This thread could be reanimated.